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Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer

Les in Chorlton 27 Jul 12 - 03:36 AM
GUEST,Grishka 27 Jul 12 - 04:17 AM
Les in Chorlton 27 Jul 12 - 04:55 AM
GUEST,Grishka 27 Jul 12 - 05:16 AM
Nigel Parsons 27 Jul 12 - 05:22 AM
Les in Chorlton 27 Jul 12 - 05:35 AM
Les in Chorlton 27 Jul 12 - 02:55 PM
GUEST,Grishka 27 Jul 12 - 05:26 PM
Les in Chorlton 27 Jul 12 - 07:59 PM
GUEST,Grishka 28 Jul 12 - 05:14 AM
Les in Chorlton 28 Jul 12 - 05:23 AM
GUEST,Grishka 28 Jul 12 - 08:21 AM
Les in Chorlton 28 Jul 12 - 09:23 AM
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Subject: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 27 Jul 12 - 03:36 AM

We have been using ABCexplorer to generate tune books - all works well.

I have been trying to get the words of songs between the staves but they either appear below the last stave or are centered and in small sized font.

Any advice?

L in C#


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 27 Jul 12 - 04:17 AM

Les, if you post a small example, we may tell you what you are doing wrong, if anything. I am using ABCexplorer myself and find the lyrics (small w:) where they belong.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 27 Jul 12 - 04:55 AM

Thanks Grishka. It's the lower case W ie. w, what does it! Minor problem now, getting the words under the notes - I guess I can add spaces?

Les


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 27 Jul 12 - 05:16 AM

Les, this problem is not minor. Try hyphens and underscores, or - horrible onus - read the documentation or a tutorial, to be found, I think, at abcnotation.com.

My own knowledge is rather limited, since I edit my music in another software and export it to abc if desired. Real experts abound at Mudcat, who will doubtless answer any question you may still have after reading.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 27 Jul 12 - 05:22 AM

Les;
Split the syllables of words with a hyphen (-). To extend a syllable to cover several notes, follow it immediately (no break, but you can include punctuation) with an underscore.
Make sure you keep your punctuation tight agaist the letters, otherwise it treats it as a syllable: ""go", I said" will fit 3 notes. "" go ", I said" would need 5.
To delay the next word from appearing in the music, prefix it with an asterisk.
To go to the first note after the next barline, use the 'pipe' symbol '|'(Upper case backslash next to 'z')
To leave several bars on music with no words use multiple pipe symbols.

Trial & error is GREAT!

Cheers
Nigel


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 27 Jul 12 - 05:35 AM

Thanks you two that's really good, will try soonest

Les


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 27 Jul 12 - 02:55 PM

Any more help?

L in C#


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 27 Jul 12 - 05:26 PM

The standard tutorial - enough help?

What is the problem now?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 27 Jul 12 - 07:59 PM

Nothing as yet, just enjoying the OG opening

L in C#


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 28 Jul 12 - 05:14 AM

I see, that is what you needed

Any more help

for. Sir Paul sang "Hey Jude" (gosh ormity, do we need that?), whereas you were expecting
When I was younger, so much younger than today,
I never needed anybody's help in any way.
But now these days are gone, I'm not so self assured,
Now I find I've changed my mind and opened up the doors.

Help me if you can, I'm feeling down
And I do appreciate you being round.
Help me, get my feet back on the ground,
Won't you please, please help me...


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 28 Jul 12 - 05:23 AM

Paul had everybody singing - he did it well, but the rest of the show was fan-bl**dy-tastic

L in C#


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 28 Jul 12 - 08:21 AM

Les, don't distract; you now owe me a funny explanation of your post of 27 Jul 12 - 02:55 PM.

Do you have another notation or MIDI sequencing software? Then you may do it as I do. There is new and apparently good conversion software available now. Who has used it and can share experiences?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 28 Jul 12 - 09:23 AM

"Les, don't distract; you now owe me a funny explanation of your post of 27 Jul 12 - 02:55 PM."

Ok, back on topic. I was just keeping the thread afloat. I haven't had chance to go back to ABC since I started this - between gardening and the Olympic cycling today.

Thanks again

Les


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Subject: RE: Tech: Getting words of songs into ABCexplorer
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 09:45 AM

Ok Grishka & Nigel, the - gets my words where I need them. I may need more stuff later but at the moment all looks good

Thamks again

Les


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