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Anyone else have this problem?-singing flat

GUEST,john in Hamilton 31 Jul 12 - 07:09 PM
Tyke 01 Aug 12 - 06:26 PM
Jim Carroll 02 Aug 12 - 03:40 AM
MorwenEdhelwen1 02 Aug 12 - 05:06 AM
MorwenEdhelwen1 02 Aug 12 - 05:41 AM
GUEST,leeneia 02 Aug 12 - 10:50 AM
MorwenEdhelwen1 03 Aug 12 - 12:58 AM
GUEST,tony Rath aka Tonyteach 03 Aug 12 - 06:59 AM
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Subject: RE: Anyone else have this problem?-singing flat
From: GUEST,john in Hamilton
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:09 PM

If you're recording with headphones, slide one side off and cup your ear (a la Robin Gibb). This should give you a better sense of your pitch


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Subject: RE: Anyone else have this problem?-singing flat
From: Tyke
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 06:26 PM

Bert feared his wife Peg wasn't hearing as well as she used to and he thought she might need a hearing aid.

Not quite sure how to approach her, he called the family Doctor to discuss the problem.

The Doctor told him there is a simple informal test the husband could perform to give the Doctor a better idea about her hearing loss.

'Here's what you do,' said the Doctor, 'stand about 40 feet away from her, and in a normal conversational speaking tone see if she hears you. If not, go to 30 feet, then 20 feet, and so on until you get a response.'

That evening, the wife is in the kitchen cooking dinner, and he was In the den. He says to himself, 'I'm about 40 feet away, let's see what happens.' Then in a normal tone he asks, 'Honey, what's for dinner?'

No response.

So the husband moves closer to the kitchen, about 30 feet from his wife and repeats, 'Peg, what's for dinner?'

Still no response.

Next he moves into the dining room where he is about 20 feet from his Wife and asks, 'Honey, what's for dinner?'

Again he gets no response.

So, he walks up to the kitchen door, about 10 feet away. 'Honey, what's for dinner?'

Again there is no response..

So he walks right up behind her. 'Peg, what's for dinner?'

.

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'For F*** sake, Bert, for the FIFTH time, CHICKEN!'


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Subject: RE: Anyone else have this problem?-singing flat
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 03:40 AM

"cup your ear (a la Robin Gibb)."
Robin Gibb ???
This is one of the oldest and most universal methods ever devised for staying in tune, - used by muezzins calling the faithful to worship, broadside sellers peddling their wares on noisy streets... you name the time and place, it's been around. It was still being used by singers of epics in The Balkans into the middle of the 20th century.
MacColl and Lloyd introduced it into the revival in Britain in the 1950s; it became their trade-mark, and the missile hurled by morons who felt the need for slogans rather than argument - "finger-in-ear" still infests any discussion on taking folk song seriously.
As long as you have learned and absorbed the tune it works like a charm for unaccompanied singing or performing in noisy conditions.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Anyone else have this problem?-singing flat
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 05:06 AM

@Leeneia: Yes on both counts. Thanks so much!


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Subject: RE: Anyone else have this problem?-singing flat
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 05:41 AM

And @Grishka's earlier post, I actually downloaded the MIDI to "Rose Of The World" and transposed it down.


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Subject: RE: Anyone else have this problem?-singing flat
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 10:50 AM

Congratulations! Isn't it great to have POWER over other people's files?


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Subject: RE: Anyone else have this problem?-singing flat
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 12:58 AM

Yep. Right now I can't find a backing for Neath The Southern Moon so I'm trying to make one.


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Subject: RE: Anyone else have this problem?-singing flat
From: GUEST,tony Rath aka Tonyteach
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 06:59 AM

I am a singing teacher - also an operatic tenor with a 3 octave voice range
I would say that most untrained voices sing flat because they are using the throat to produce the sound and not the support - they clench or alter the throat position on difficult or high notes.

Morwenna I do not know how old you are but by using these methods and also placing the sound in the mask you can increase your range almost immediately by about 3 - 4 notes
Most sopranos start off with a comfortable A and increase the range with training and practice


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