BS: The Olympic Games

Subject: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:31 AM

Great game, but the Olympics table tennis is a farce, frankly: because so many of the top 100 are Chinese, they meet against each other representing almost every nation under the sun - if you'll pardon the pun.

Otherwise, I feel spoilt for choice...what are you watching?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: gnu
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:41 AM

Mostly replays of Crosby's winning goal in the "Watch the Olympics because it's costing us a shiload to televise them." adverts.

Other than that, I VERY much enjoy the women's volleyball. I must say the camera crews are doing an excellent job. Every time one of the tall, gorgeous young lasses has to adjust her bra, the camera doesn't miss "attention to details".

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Andy Shandy
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:43 AM

If Britain don't win any medals at these games, we can look forward to highlights of the 1966 World Cup until Christmas.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:49 AM

..."Tears" - http://walkaboutsverse.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/walkaboutsverse-150-of-230.html

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 06:08 AM

And how about the rye at Wimbledon - even Federer nearly fell and, at times, Tomas Berdych looked like a giraffe on ice.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 07:14 AM

The finn sailing coverage looks great.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,John from Kemsing
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 08:37 AM

I long for the day when a country, contending to hold the games, proposes to limit the competition to only those events that are held in the stadium, the walk and the marathon. Surely there are enough international, top ranking events of the other sports and games(e.g. The World Cup for rugby and football and cricket, tennis Grand Slams, Open golf championships, world swimming chapionships, Tour de France, etc.) held during the years to satisfy us?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Jim Knowledge
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 08:52 AM

I `ad that Danny Boyle in my cab last night. `e was reading up on court etiquette for when `e gets `is gong.
I said, " Morning Danny. Nice one last Saturday night but where were the Morris Dancers?. Surely they figure in the common man`s `istory of our islands?"
`e said, " I know, Jim. I tried but `ealth and Safety put the mockers on it. They said the racket from all them bells might do peoples ears in!!"

Whaddam I Like??

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 09:30 AM

Oh, Danny Boyle - just a bit of country dancing and a glimpse of a maypole, but, as you say JK, no Morris. And "Whaddam I like??"...well, I think it could all be a tad too much for you, JK - picking up the wrong thread!... thread.cfm?threadid=146117&messages=71

And John - I certainly agree to the extent that it's good to see some other sports on mainstream tv.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 09:34 AM

I enjoyed the boat race. (Are they called sculls?) The boats were so graceful-looking, knifing through the calm water. The scenery wasn't beautiful, but it was both pretty and tranquil.

After that, there was some kind of court game where players threw the ball into a net. I got bored and stopped watching.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 10:20 AM

..."sculls," Leeneia...something to do with Danish drinking, I thought - and with double-sculls it all happens quicker..?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 10:20 AM

Ladies synchro springboard diving is absolutely amazing!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 04:51 PM

Women's (cauliflower ear) judo but no netball..?!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:54 PM

Beyond the "plastic Brits," and Chinese table tennis players mentioned atop, sadly there seems to be more-and-more of such nation-hopping (I've just been watching the badminton). Thus, I raise this question again: "Olympics or Globalisation?" - http://walkaboutsverse.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/walkaboutsverse-143-of-230.html

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 05:59 PM

And The Telegraph on this - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/olympic_infographics_and_data/9391327/Team-GB-Plastic-Brits-where-do-they-come-from.ht

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 07:26 PM

Immigration a bad word to walkabouts?

The citizenship of Olympic table tennis players from Canada is Canadian. Whether their ancestry is Chinese or Ethiopian or English is immaterial, they have chosen to be Canadian.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 07:32 PM

It saves him the opprobium he would attract if he said black Brits, Q.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Joe_F
Date: 29 Jul 12 - 07:49 PM

The Sporting Spirit

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 02:38 AM

Mind it may be the case sometimes but I don't think this is simply an issue of someone being racist. In the likes of football once you have chosen the country to represent at international level then that is it. You are stuck with them. As far as I know that is still the same. Some people agree with that principle others don't. However there does seem to be different rules for the Olympics. There are athletes who compete for one nation then change to another and even in Aldama's case then on to another! I believe there is a three year rule which in the Olympic four year turnaround terms means there is no wait at all. People can surely question that without being labled racist.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 03:07 AM

It wasn't the weekend that Britain expected regarding medals. The top two hopefuls only landed a silver and a bronze.

Britain will now have to depend those from Brixton, Bradford and Birmingham.

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This message appears to be impersonation. -Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 05:39 AM

REBECCA ADLINGTON - EFFORT EFFORT EFFORT - AN EXEMPLAR TO BTITAIN'S YOUTH!!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 07:55 AM

Really, we could do with more sport on the tv not less!
The whole country should be praying that a whole generation of obese kids will be inspired, by all these amazing young sports persons, to get out, get fit, and get healthy!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MikeL2
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 11:49 AM

Hi

<" REBECCA ADLINGTON - EFFORT EFFORT EFFORT - AN EXEMPLAR TO BTITAIN'S YOUTH!!!">

Bonzo I don't often agree with your posts but I do here. Although at 23 Becky is no longer a youth ??!!, shows complete dedication and to her cause.
And I believe there is more to come in the 800 metres.

I enjoyed the women's cycling and especially the guts and drive of Lizzie Armistead. I thought this event was great to watch - full of incident and excitement. Great finish too.

cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 12:19 PM

"Britain will now have to depend those from Brixton, Bradford and Birmingham"

And that wasn't me that made that post! You'd think folk would have more to do than play around like that!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 01:44 PM

I haven't been following it much.

We had a friend visiting from out of town and she wanted to watch a bit of it last night, so we watched it with her. We saw some of the swimming events and women's gymnastics.

I must say that what some of those young women gymnasts were doing was downright spectacular ("able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!")

But a salient feature of our watching experience yesterday evening was that, during one half-hour segment, we saw three swimming events, each of which didn't take more than a couple of minutes—and the rest of the half-hour was commercials!

This is one of the reasons Barbara and I don't watch much commercial television and stick pretty close to the presentations of our local PBS affiliate.

NBC did a bit better when they show the women's gymnastics, however. Maybe only half of that time was given over to commercials.

Don Firth (mutter, mutter, snarl!)

P. S. Didn't bother to keep track of which country was winning what, however. More interested in what the athletes themselves were doing, which, to me, is what the Olympics is really all about.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 02:02 PM

BTITAIN'S YOUTH??????

Ah, letter T is next to R!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 02:11 PM

Harumph

The judges for mens fencing will have a great future as Russian ICe Dancing judges.

The 3 hour womens bike rade was exciting.

Scientific American Magazine has a chart showing that Sailing is the safest olmpic sport and soccer is the most injurious sport.

It turns out that more injuries occur from ping pong games than cycling.?~!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 02:16 PM

The gymnastics are awesome, to use current kid lingo.

In school, the rings, pommel and bars were tried, but the physical conditioning instructor told me I was hopeless, clueless, and a disgrace to the humanoid evolutionary tree.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Dead Horse
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 06:40 PM

I switched on to see Li Xeuyings snatch.
Frankly it was a let down and not at all what I expected :-)

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 07:00 PM

I agree Dead Horse, lying open like a Wizards cuff.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 07:29 PM

Because I insisted on live via the internet...I was not aware that my American friends saw a censored version from NBC.

The tribute to the UK 7/7 victums with the music "Abide With Me " ... was replaced with a seven minute taped interview with a swimmer.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Has Max gotten a job with NBC?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 07:50 PM

There was a story about that on NPR this evening. Skipping it was a mistake.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 08:50 PM

In Canada, we got the tribute.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 30 Jul 12 - 09:10 PM

(Canada, west)
We get Olympic events on cable from three sources, so often have a choice of what to watch. The NBC (American channel) has much material recorded at an earlier time,, good in case we missed something earlier.

The rough water kayak events were interesting, I hadn't seen them before.

We get some Canadian content advertising, not just Coca Cola, MacDonalds, etc. Hudsons Bay, Rona, etc. I drooled over the BMW adv.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 06:42 AM

Is there any way of converting an HD recording in 3D to normal HD?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:29 AM

No, Bonzo, you just have to sit and watch it cross-eyed. (Try it, it works, although the formatting is wrong).

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,G-Force
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:31 AM

I seem to have become a guest.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:33 AM

Now watching Fukuhara OF Japan play Ding Ning OF China in the later stages of the women's table tennis: as I suggested here, unlike top female tennis players, neither has bulging muscles nor veins nor strapping running down their limbs, both are better than I ever was, and I'm enjoying it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: G-Force
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:39 AM

Ah, now I'm back in action again.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 04:49 PM

Women's Team Gymnastics played out today, a hard fought competition. Roumania picked up the bronze; I remember Nadia Comaneci and her perfect ten. She is active in several charities, effective as a speaker. She is a naturalized American, living in Oklahoma with her husband.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 05:28 AM

She's not alone there, of course, Q. So many of the world's top sports people end up in the U.S.A. E.g., Rod Laver left Australia to coach young Americans, before getting the centre court in Melbourne named after him.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 01:04 PM

Watched Rowing, eights, this morning. Canada got silver, a good effort.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 05:52 PM

I enjoyed that, too - but, in line with what I've said above, not women's (bulging muscles AND veins) rowing, which only became part of the Olympics quite recently.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 05:25 AM

"Wiggins gets gold!"...well, no surprise there - he's by far the best time-trialist in the world. What I found interesting is that, when devoted to the track, he weighed in at 82kg and, to be the best on the road, has reduced to 67kg!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 05:37 AM

I enjoyed that, too - but, in line with what I've said above, not women's (bulging muscles AND veins) rowing, which only became part of the Olympics quite recently.
Actually 36 years ago, at the 20th Olympiad (of modern times)So womens rowing has been in for one third of the modern olympics.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 05:58 AM

And for how long have females been getting cauliflower ears from Olympics judo?

I should add that, e.g., I have no problem with the next Archbishop of Canterbury being a female; nor women playing, e.g., non-contact netball or light-racket table tennis.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 06:09 AM

When it comes to fighting (be it judo or whatever) there is no need to wrap the ladies in cotton wool:

WHEN the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
    He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
    But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
    For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

    When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
    He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
    But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
    For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

    When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
    They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
    'Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
    For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.


Kipling

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 06:14 AM

"And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!" (Kipling - the greedy imperialist).

#BBC2012 Do you like females with bulging muscles AND veins, or cauliflower ears? Do you like women's rowing, or women's judo? I don't.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 07:50 AM

I'm sure our brilliant two young and attractive women rowers who won the Gold wouldn't lose sleep that some bloke posting on the internet doesn't approve of women rowers!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: gnu
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 08:42 AM

Canada has 6 medals and China has 30. If we went per capita, Canada would have 240 medals. WE ARE KICKIN ASS!

GO CANUCKS!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 11:04 AM

Nobody in the entire universe sets any store by anything that oaf WalkaboutsVerse says anyway, hasn't he hasn't realised that, after all the drivel he's posted over the years got so much derision.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 11:16 AM

"Canada has 6 medals and China has 30"

You are right of course the massive countries should do better. It was mentioned on British tv the other day that the most succesful Olympians are New Zealanders if it is worked out on per head of population.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 12:59 PM

The Chinese improvement on so many sports is truly amazing; indeed, quite a few eye-brows have been raised.
Does any one out there know about drug testing?
For example, whose responsibility is it to test athletes out of season? ( when drug taking is most likely).
If it is internal - unverifiable - system ( e.g. French officials testing French athletes), then that seems rather dodgy.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 01:47 PM

No woman will get cauliflower ears from Olympic judo competition.

If more women knew some simple defense moves, attacks by sexual predators would be lessened.

China has a large population, and like the U.S. has the facilities. sports are popular, and athletes with desire and ability are given a fast track.

What do you mean by out of season? Competitions are held at different times of the year, depending on regional sponsoring, interest and climate.

Most sports are overseen by organizations that keep tabs on contestants.
There will always be cheats, but sooner or later they fall afoul of sophisticated testing used for major competitions.

I was disappointed by the sour grapes comment by the American coach; he should be penalized. Wiggins, the great GB cyclist, has drawn similar comment in the press.
That young swimmer from Lithuania, who looks like a rising star, will be lucky if she escapes similar accusations.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 03:40 PM

Indoor Track and Field Championships held in March in Istanbul offered a preview of the Olympic track and field.
Important meets were held in New York, Glasgow and other venues.
Competitions have become year-round.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 04:33 PM

#BBC2012 Do you like females with bulging muscles AND veins, or cauliflower ears? Do you like women's rowing, or women's judo? I don't.

I don't like flat or ingrowing chested anorexics masquerading as athletes!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 06:21 PM

"No woman will get cauliflower ears from Olympic judo competition." (Q)...men only?

Tunesmith: As said above, I heard someone comment (a swimming commentator, I think) that all medallists will be tested, with results taking about a month to come through.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 08:30 PM

you folks have to remember, China and several others have state sponsored training etc. The US and Canada and a host of others athletes pay for their own training. I think it makes a difference if you have access to anything anytime. The little girl Missy Franklin has only 1 swim coach for 10 years and she is only 17 ... It is the High School Coach from Aurora Colorado, her school. She has won a couple gold metals so far and more to follow. She and her parents turned down any corporate sponsors because she would not be eligible to swim on her high school team if she accepted. She trained in her HS school before and after school ...

Now as great as she is, it would make me wonder what she would achieve if she was in one of the China State Athlete training factories huh. Maybe more great or maybe less great dunno

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 08:55 PM

Loved the women rowers ... and I thought they were beautiful young ladies for sure ...

like beer everyone has their own taste in the lovely female form

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 05:05 AM

Lumberjacks are big and tough
And truckers even stronger
But they know when it comes to swimmin'
Our Beccy stays on longer!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 07:24 AM

""#BBC2012 Do you like females with bulging muscles AND veins, or cauliflower ears? Do you like women's rowing, or women's judo? I don't.""

I'm sure your disapproval bothers them deeply WAV.

It is 2012 you know, not 1912!

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 04:18 PM

I got the biggest kick out of the two women teaming in rowing for the USA.   One was from Ohio State and the oher from Michigan. For all of you not from here, that is one of the biggest rivalries in college sports.

As usual Walkylimpdick, you are as fucked up as ever!


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 04:54 PM

Taught, partly, by an Anglo-American lecturer in Australia, Spaw (or should I say "sir"), I got distinctions for humanities and, a few years earlier, managed to play A-grade junior team and individual sports - with a club-foot - http://davidfranks.blogspot.co.uk/p/extras-on-football-and-tennis.html

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 07:47 PM

A lot of hard work on the part of all contestants, regardless of the sport. Very enjoyable so far.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 07:53 PM

You say on your blog, WAV, that you preferred it when women were restricted to non contact netball, and you don't agree with the idea of a UK women's football team.

Would that have anything to do with fact that in international contests they are showing a consistency of success which puts their vastly overpaid prima donna male counterparts to shame and degradation.

You truly are a misogynist Australian dinosaur with delusions of intelligence.

Go get 'em girls!

DonT.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 08:11 PM

Well I am waiting in great anticipation for Women's pole vault, Jenn Suhr formerly Jenn Stuczynski was a student of my wife in HS and she is the sweetest young girl in the world and our top rated pole vaulter. Last Olympics she took silver so we are all hoping gold this time. The whole county will go nuts if she does

Jenn

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 04:44 AM

"and you don't agree with the idea of a UK women's football team.
Would that have anything to do with fact that in international contests they are showing a consistency of success which puts their vastly overpaid prima donna male counterparts to shame and degradation."

actually there has been no consistency of success. This is the first time there has ever been a UK women's team (ie Team GB) and the first time for 50 years that there has been a UK men's team. There had been opposition to the formation of the UK teams within Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland from both the general public and the football associations themselves. So if he opposes the idea of a women's team altogether then yes, he is a dinosaur - but if he opposes the principle of a joint team then he's in line with the majority of the football associations in the UK.

I take it you are meaning they are doing better than the English football team? In truth they've done much the same as England often do. Get through the group then lose in the next round.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 06:24 AM

Interesting that the USA make a fuss about the Chinese wonder swimmer from nowhere, but not a word about their own wonder swimmer who won the ladies' 800 metre freestyle, although not quite as fast as our Beccy in the last Olympics!!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 09:54 AM

What fuss, one coach made a comment, all the commentators here especially rowdy ganes the great former swimmer said "nonsense" She is a gifted athlete

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 09:59 AM

Winning or losing, I'm very sure that females should not play rugby and, in the blog Don mentions, I question women's Association Football, also:

"Furthermore, when I was a junior, females were not participating in football (many were, rather, involved in non-contact netball), and, having watched some Women's World Cup football, I tend, again, to agree with how it was..?" (link above).

But, I must repeat, I'm quite happy for my archbishop or would-be president to be a female - because such roles do not demand scrummaging, chesting a football, belting tennis balls, lifting heavy weights, etc.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 10:07 AM

Well as a father, I taught my girls they can be anything they want to be, do anything they set their mind to do. One played rugby at a US Ivy league college, all are triathlon iron man competitors, all very successful in their chosen careers. It is a mistake to tell a young woman that she cannot do something in sports or otherwise. How is that going to reflect on a young girl. And as far as full contact sports, all three are black belts.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 10:12 AM

Modern.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Penny S.
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 10:43 AM

Actually, I don't much like men with over bulging muscles and cauliflower ears, but it isn't my business to interfere with them doing what they do well.

What's been getting me is the defenders of so many GB and NI medallists coming from private education claiming that it's nothing to do with facilities (Olympic standard rowing lake!) but all to do with state schools abandoning the very necessary encouragment of competiveness.

Which teaches most people that they are losers, and makes "striving for excellence" utterly soul destroying. The few at the front, who have a chance of beating the one whom everyone knows is going to win, maybe it's good for them, but not the rest.

(Aged 11, I pulled a muscle at the top of my leg which bothered me for years, in a race I had chosen not to enter, and was told I couldn't possibly have because I came in last. Which I had expected, but done my darndest not to. Did the stupid woman think I wasn't trying when she deliberately set me up to fail?)

(My sister says I shouldn't remember these old things - but I think it made me better at dealing with most of the children in PE.)

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 11:01 AM

Hi

I have watched much of the broadcast so far of the Games.

There have been many exciting moments and these make fantastic viewing.

Cycling both road and track, rowing, hockey ( the field variety) were all exciting. I actually found Archery to be very interesting and though it looks easy I guess that it certainly isn't.

Today I am watching Athletics, especially Jessica Ennis. She is a brilliant and gifted athlete and seems to be a very nice person to boot. She seems to be set to win gold in the Heptathlon after a very disciplined and focussed performance leaves her to run well in the last of her events the 800 metres. Go Jessica go !!

There has been a great deal of discussion and "adverts" ( theoretically should be none on the BBC.) which for me gives me time to do other tasks that I need to do, so I don't really mind but I can see how it annoys many people.

Of all the presenters and " experts " for me Clare Balding and Michael Johnson stand out.

All in all Well done Team GB.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 01:46 PM

Well done the GB team indeed.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 02:32 PM

Yes, it is indeed a difficult time for Scottish Nationalists, Welsh nationalists, and English nationalists, like me. "GB" and the Union Flag are being heard and seen, in success, all over the shop.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 03:44 PM

Just saw Michael Phelps last competitive swim - surprise, surprise: Gold.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 04:57 PM

If someone wanted to beat Michael they needed to out train him ... 50% is physical ability which all of them have, the other 50% is training. I admit I am not a fan of his, but I take nothing away from his skill, he earned every medal since no one can really beat him.

Like the little Chinese girl, people like to yell doping ... well ya know they do tests before and after and long before and after. Maybe she just out trained the competition and now it is sour grapes ... same with Phelps

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 05:19 PM

Even the moon's in on it!... http://www.trust.org/alertnet/multimedia/pictures/detail.dot?mediaInode=0f1ccc66-6c7a-4887-9dea-3ba4631e9bc6

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 05:51 PM

"a difficult time for Scottish Nationalists...." Can't see why. They'd prefer Scotland competed as a seperate nation but they support the team they are competing for as much as anyone else.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 05:55 PM

"I'm very sure that females should not play rugby"

And some time ago many were very sure they should not vote in elections. The reality is they do play rugby, football etc. Get over it!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 06:02 PM

Not a big sports fan but I must take the opportunity to say well done for winning 6 gold medals today! Jessica Ennis in particular was a wonder to watch.

Good on you all!

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 06:57 PM

""Well as a father, I taught my girls they can be anything they want to be, do anything they set their mind to do. One played rugby at a US Ivy league college, all are triathlon iron man competitors, all very successful in their chosen careers. It is a mistake to tell a young woman that she cannot do something in sports or otherwise. How is that going to reflect on a young girl. And as far as full contact sports, all three are black belts.""

Way to go Dan. At least you belong in the 21st century.

I've come to the conclusiuon that WAV, who would stifle aspiration other than clerics, netball players and "Would be" (not actual?) Presidents, has one of the finest minds of the twelfth century.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 06:16 AM

The truth is, Don, I'd be far less radical/far more at home if it was the 1950s...

"#BBC2012 Bulging veins running down skinny young/old limbs - it's the women's marathon." (In which women did NOT participate until the late 1960s.)

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:01 AM

The ladies' discus champion was nice and meaty!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:23 AM

...didn't see that, Bonzo...I wonder if she can bake a nice stottie?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:51 AM

Clive is cast away to Prospero's magical isle with the award-winning actor, Tim Pigott-Smith, who stars as the marooned Duke of Milan in Adrian Noble's production of 'The Tempest' at the Theatre Royal Bath later this month. It's a world of spirits and monsters, mistaken identity and sweet romance - but where does the reality end and fantasy begin? After all, ''We are such stuff as dreams are made on".

Clive navigates his way to calmer waters and dry land where he meets The Man in the Rubber Mask, otherwise known as Robert Llewellyn or Kryten from Red Dwarf. Robert's novel, 'News from Gardenia', presents a utopian vision of Great Britain in the future, as seen through the eyes of a man from the present.

Nikki dials up 'Fonejacker' Kayvan Novak in his alter-ego role of Terry Tibbs, the used car salesman. Terry's now got his own prime time chat show, 'Verry Terry', which sees him interviewing a variety of celebrity guests. First up for the Terry treatment are all round tough guy, Mickey Rourke, and TV presenter, Anthea Turner. 'Verry Terry' is part of Channel 4's 'Funny Fortnight' on Thursday 16th August at 10pm.

American folk legend and grande dame, Peggy Seeger, talks to Clive about her new album 'Folksploitation', which sees her in an unlikely collaboration with the experimental dance music producer Broadcaster. She will also perform the original acoustic version of 'First Time Ever I Saw Your Face' - the song her husband Ewan McColl wrote for her when they first met in 1957.

Further musical entertainment comes from the soulful pop sensation Eugene McGuinness who plays 'Shotgun' from his new album 'The Invitation to the Voyage'.

Producer: Cathie Mahoney.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:52 AM

Sorry - wrong thread

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 08:38 AM

Terrific - now women are boxing as well...but, as I said in verse, men still "can't suckle a baby" (here).

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Stu
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 09:11 AM

I'm glad to see the girls doing so well, good on them and we should support them completely. I can't see why anyone would deny them the right, as sexism has no place in modern society.

Haven't heard much from the anti-multicultrualists in the last couple of days either, as multicultural Britain winds golds all over the shop; I hope they were sitting at home not cheering, just stewing in their ignorance and bigotry as the rest of us celebrate the joy of winning and our wonderful diversity.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MikeL2
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 09:40 AM

Hi

Great stuff Jessica it was a treat to watch the way she won the Gold. She could have hung around in the 800 meters but she ran to her best ability and won the race.

Well done too to Mo Farrah and Greg Rutherford. The British rowing and cycling teams continue to excel. The cycle team are not only winning but breaking World Records.

I just heard on TV that in the 1948 London Olympics the longest distance that women were allowed to run was 200 meters !!

Today I saw hundreds of women from all over the World running 42 Kilometers. !!! The fastest ones at around 2hrs 20 minutes. Things have surely changed.

Cheers

MikeL2

PS just watched this moment Ben Ainslie win the Finn Class in Sailing. This is the 2Iron Man" of sailing.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:04 AM

Agree on Ben Ainslie - an excellent English sportsman.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:05 AM

Your British young ladies trained day and night for this, you all should be proud of them instead of telling them to go home and cook. My gosh, beautiful young women working so hard to win for their country. I am proud of all of them as I am for my US girls.You should be to. Now if our Jenn can win the pole vault life will be good. She is drop dead beautiful and at 6 feet 140 is solid muscle ... Last Olympics she smile and gave my wife and I a big hug ... sweeties young lady in the world

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:16 AM

David,
I have come to know you as a very good person. You are kind and considerate but I have to say, sometimes I don't understand you. Some of your posting come across exactly the opposite as I know you to be. But that is ok, I don't understand myself half the time

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:28 AM

...at least bear in mind, Olddude, that a lot of what I'm arguing here re sports WAS largely status quo not that long ago (netball was created as a non-contact sport for females, relatively recently, by folks who must have been of a similar mind to me); and that I find it ridiculous that a female should not be considered for the highest office in the church, e.g., which is also quite radical for many.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:32 AM

Now I get your point thank you

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 11:05 AM

Talking about swimming, surely there are more black swimmers at these games than any previous.
I've always felt that a sport can't have reached anywhere near it's true potential if it hasn't embraced black athletes in a big way ( e.g. cycling)
BTW, has a black swimmer ever won a gold medal?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 11:25 AM

Men's synchronised swimming and men's rhythmic gymnastics?!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 11:55 AM

I have no interest in tennis whatsoever, but I watched Andy Murray thrash Roger Federer. Nice to see players wearing colours at Wimbledon!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 12:00 PM

Agree, Bonzo: national clothing is correct, even at Wimbledon; but I hope one day soon Murray of Scotland is in blue and white, only!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 01:50 PM

No, no and a thousand times no, WAV. While he is winning he is BRITISH he is only Scotish when he loses...

BTW - You didn't claim 100 so I will clain page 3 instead.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 01:56 PM

Agree with me on this, DTG: almost as impressive as Michael Phelps is Ben Ainslie of England - and arguably our best sailor since Captain Bligh!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 02:01 PM

Tune
not about black or white, it is about a sport an individual wishes to pursue don't you think. Lots a great black swimmers I bet, Just a matter of time till someone wishes to compete in that sport. Nice to see Gabby the first black all round winner in gymnastics also. She was amazing

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 05:24 PM

Enjoyed watching and hearing Bolt, and I don't think he's used drugs; but someone in that final has been caught twice, apparently - so what's he doing there?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 05:28 PM

olddude, what interests me about black swimmers is that, even recently, I've heard people say that blacks can't swim because they have heavier bones and lie lower in the water - or some such silly nonsense.
I wonder if in the States - certainly in the Southern States - maybe, until quite recently, blacks and whites in the same pool was not considered the done thing.
As a result, blacks just didn't try out for the swim team.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:03 PM

Tune
you maybe onto a good point. In the past black kids were not allowed in the public pool down south when they had their Jim crow laws and such. People tend to take up a sport that their dads or mom's did. I was not surprised when they panned the audience and say, that is so and so's dad who was an Olympic bronze medalist in 1968 etc. So it is possible that black kids didn't get as interested in the sport because it was not a family sport. Mainly because their parents or grandparent had no chance. Instead followed the sport of their mom's or dad's. Interesting point.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:11 PM

Even more so when they had segregation even into the 60's the black schools had no chance of having a pool. They were very underfunded in the south. Hopefully that will change as today things are so different today. Would be nice to see more black kids in the sport.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:16 PM

Black American swim team members-
Conor Dwyer and Cullen Jones on the U.S. team at the Olympics, I believe Anthony Irwin also is on the team (Black-Indian). Dwyer was part of the gold medal 4x200 freestyle relay team. Cullen Jones is part of the world record 4x100 freestyle relay team (silver medal at these games). He picked up individual silver medals in this Olympics.
Lia Neal made the women's team.

Perhaps they have more interest in the track events.
Dunno the situation in GB.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:27 PM

Our neighbors, who are African American, don't have much interest in swimming or the beach. Some have boats, but still do not swim. Maybe it is not so much body type as culture.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:39 PM

05 Aug 12 - 07:23 AM
"I wonder if she can bake a nice stottie?"

Face it, mister- it's not the bulging veins and muscles of women athletes that disturbs you- it is that the women aspire to anything beyond the kitchen.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:02 PM

Well Jenn's in, she is competing for gold on Monday ... OH YES

Jenn

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:23 PM

nice arms

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:41 PM

add Jenn to my list Jack

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 11:02 PM

great photo gallery of our Jenn

Jenn

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 05:19 AM

The pre and post race antics of the mens' 100 metre finalists were trying to say what? To me they acted like a bunch of wierdos.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 06:35 AM

The one thing from WAV that I do half agree with, is women boxing.

I say "half agree", because I feel the same about men boxing and would happily ban the sport entirely, had I the power.

Deliberately inflicting brain damage on another human being is, or should be, arguably Grievous Bodily Harm.

It is no justification to say that they know what the consequences are when they join.

So do two guys in a bar room brawl, but the police will still arrest and charge the one who threw the first punch, or often both.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 04:25 PM

Jenn, Jenn, Jenn, Jenn
I can't pole vault but I can lead cheers ... :-) You rock girl win it

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 04:55 PM

Those female pole vaulters mumble to themselves a great deal!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 04:59 PM

I think we would also if we were going 15 + feet in the air on a pole :-)

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 05:00 PM

I was actually doing more than mumbling when I jumped 4000 feet today
tee hee

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 05:03 PM

JENN WON GOLD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH MY GOD !!!!!!!!
TOWN IS GOING NUTS !!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 05:10 PM

Greg
your balance staff is going in the mail tomorrow bro

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 06:23 PM

She was magnificent!!

Bloody well done, Jenn.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 06:28 PM

Team GB needs one more gold to equal Beijing tally, and 8 more medals of any colour to beat Beijing total.

For all the naysayers who have been talking down the London 2012 Olympics, one large raspberry, delivered with real passion:

PPPPPPPPPPHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPTTTTTTTTT!!

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 06:53 PM

I second that raspberry Don
well done my friend, that was an Olympic raspberry for sure

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 07:03 PM

Jenn's mom and dad were just on TV, they are beaming from ear to ear. Her mom is just a little skinny girl, so darn cute and sweet like Jenn. She was in tears as was her dad. They are just such good people, I could not be happier. The town is loving every minute. Jenn has been chasing the Russian girl for a number of years. She was determined to beat her. Last Olympics she fell short and got the silver but this year ... amazing.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 07:56 PM

She went to the same HS as my daughter, they were in classes together. My daughter is completely thrilled also ... awesome

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 Aug 12 - 09:24 PM

Saw her winning vault on the BBCAmerica channel, I couldn't watch the livecast today. It will be rebroadcast on the U.S. network tonight. I was looking at the Washington Post tonight, and they posted the heights as distance in their summary.

The Olympics so far are great, the London organizers have done a great job.
Yes, a big raspberry to the boobirds.

Glad to see gold medals going to places like Grenada and Dominican Republic. The U.S. and China are dominant in so many events. The United Kingdom is doing well. surprising to me to see South Korea so far ahead of Japan in medal count.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 02:10 AM

"The United Kingdom is doing well." We hit a low point in 1996 obtaining only one gold and 15 in total and ended up in 36th place in the table. Since then we've been in the top ten every time. In 2000 we got 11 golds and 28 in totoal; in 2004 it was 9 golds and 30 in total; then 2008 it jumped to 19 goals with 47 in total and incredibly 4th in the table just behind Russia. This year so far we have 18 golds and 40 in total and currently sitting in 3rd position! The national lottery was launched 1994 and a fair proportion of its funds goes to UK sport so I think it has definitely had a big impact!

Big surprises for me this year is the poor performance of Russia - and the collapse of Australia who are having a shocker - certainly as far as gold medals go.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MikeL2
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 05:16 AM

Hi Dan

Well done Jen. I watched it all in hope of course that our "new girl on the block" Holly Bleasedale would do well. She got to the final and then it just didn't happen for her.

Then we had the nail-biting period when the top three jumped for gold.
Even the London rain couldn't dampen your great competitor. She was grat and fully deserved her win.

We too have a "local hero" here in Matthew Langridge who was in the Men's rowing Eight boat final. They sacrificed a sure silver by going for gold and were beaten and finished in Bronze position absolutely knackered.

The town is proud of him and his achievements and like you Dan we know just how hard these people work to follow their dream.

Yes of course there is much hype and hysteria at the games but there too is a great display of guts,skill and dedication by many contestants who are honest in their endeavours and who prefer a low key life.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: fat B****rd
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 05:23 AM

Yes, well done that Jenn. Better luck for Holly next time.
How ya doin, Dan?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MikeL2
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 05:36 AM

hi

Today I will be watching all of the Men's Triathlon. I have watched many Triathlons live because our niece competes in the events. She is not of International standard but we are proud of who she is and what she does.

We - GB - have two brothers going today who are well fancied but I don't want to spoil it by saying that they are going to get medals....but fingers crossed.

The most amazing Triathlon that we have ever seen was in Madeira - which as anyone who knows the place is extremely mountainous. Why we were amazed was to see the cyclists doing upwards of 60mph on the steep descents. There were many sharp bends and all that was there to protect them were ordinary domestic mattresses strapped to the walls. Amazingly we neither saw nor heard of any bad accidents or injuries.

Last year our niece was in The Llandudno Sea Triathlon. The weather was British Summer at it's worst.

The high winds and rain were so bad that the sea swimming stage was cancelled on safety grounds and the event became a Biathlon. It pelted down with strong winds throughout the run and the cycling. Many did not finish. Our niece though enjoyed it. Swimming is her worst stage so she featured higher than she would have done.

At the moment ( 10.30am) here in the Northwest it is raining hard. Not sure what London is getting but hope it stays dry. The City roads played havoc in the Women's Triathlon with many crashes and accidents.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: BrendanB
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 02:07 PM

The Brownlees were magnificent! What a fantastic triathlon for those two boys - I find it hard to believe that anyone can sustain that amount of effort over the three disciplines. I do not understand the hype over the 100 metres, for me the triathlon, heptathlon and decathlon are much more demanding events. Mind you I have really enjoyed the cycling as well.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 05:31 PM

Ebbie: as well as that light-hearted post, I have said on this thread, whole-heartedly, I'd be quite happy for our next Archbishop of Canterbury or first/second (Cromwell?) President to be a female.

If however, I saw a lady attempting to lift a 25kg bag of raw material into a hopper, e.g., I would try and stop her and do it myself; and I think our H & S regulations would back this up.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Les from Hull
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 06:01 PM

I think there's a lot of difference between making someone do something and allowing them to do it.

Congratulations to all the Olympians and I hope they are enjoying the experience as a reward for all the hard work they have put in.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 07 Aug 12 - 08:30 PM

Oh your guys are wonderful .. just wonderful ... quite a race
Awesome ....

Charlie
Holly is great, next Olympics will be hers I think. She had a little trouble this time but she has the goods for sure.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 02:10 AM

"I would try and stop her and do it myself"

Come on this is just a red herring! The women competing at this Olympics are on the whole far faster and fitter than I am sure you are ever likely to be. Certainly I couldn't hope to compete with them either on the track, in the pool or on the velodrome. Just enjoy their achievements rather than being so bloody negative and miserable.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 02:46 AM

All in all, money very well spent.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Stu
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 03:47 AM

The dressage, which is simply training animals to do tricks as far as I can tell, could do with some enlivening. I suggest members of the public are stationed at regular intervals around the arena and must try to knock off the rider's hat with water bombs.

Of course, the poor horse suffers enough as it is so instant disqualification for water bombing the nag. The toff's hat is fair game though. Gold here we come!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 09:15 AM

I am still very excited about your British brothers, what an achievement. anytime there is a connection to folks that I know, I am routing. Great job, I bet the town is going crazy.

watching TV this morning, so sad to see LoLo Jones in tears, not that she didn't medal, but because the US press ripped her to pieces saying she is all image and no substance. I would like to see those writer creeps train like any of the Olympic young girls .... just hate I guess

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 09:17 AM

..."Horses For Courses?" - http://walkaboutsverse.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/walkaboutsverse-146-of-230.html

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 09:38 AM

As said four years ago, I think, the best way to work out the national medals tally is 3 points for a gold, 2 for silver, 1 for bronze.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 09:50 AM

It seems that rules really differ from sport to sport too. For instance the likes of the US can get multiple medals at some of their strong events with several swimmers or athletes in the same race - as can the Kenyans, Jamaicans etc in the athletics. Yet the rules were changed in the velodrome this year to allow only one entrant per country - suppposedly at least partly in response to Britain's dominance 4 years ago. Had the best riders been allowed to compete then I'm sure Britain may have filled the podium in some races. Of course other events have restrictions too but the change in this one has afected Britain somewhat

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MikeL2
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 10:06 AM

hi Allan

You are quite right in the change of rules comments.

Reducing the number of entrants to 1 for each country prevented the spectators from seeing some top athletes for appearing and also some mouthwatering clashes.

For instance I am sure the whole World would want to have seen Jason Kenney race against Sir Chris Hoy (along with several other tops British riders ) were unable to ride because of this one-sided rule.

Also they changed the actual events in some cases - ones that Britain were the best participants.

I understand the some of the Archery rules were changed to the detriment of our shooters.

On this same subject .....what the hell is Skeet Shooting ???

There have been several claims the the British riders ; especially Bradley Wiggins have been "involved" with drugs. The French particularly hinted as much during this last week. How the French cycling can claim anyone is guilty of drugs escapes me !!!!!!

cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 11:19 AM

The French indeed have room to talk!
Bradley recently stated that he was surprised that French drugs cheat Richard Veronque is so respected in his homeland.
That didn't go down well with the French!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 12:49 PM

""Just enjoy their achievements rather than being so bloody negative and miserable.""

No point whatever asking a leopard to change its spots Allan.

Being "Bloody negative and miserable" is what he does!

I have this sublime mental picture of his ""lady attempting to lift a 25kg bag of raw material into a hopper"" dropping the bag on his toe and kneeing him in the danglers.

Perhaps that would teach him to think about what she wants to do, rather than what a chauvinist thinks she ought to do, and act accordingly.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 12:56 PM

The french scream doping on anything they don't win at ... problem is, they don't win on much of anything ... sour grapes.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 02:20 PM

The Equestrian Events, including Dressage, are followed closely by me and others in the Calgary area, where one of the international competitions is held each year at Spruce Meadows.
Dressage requires cooperation between rider and horse which equals or exceeds the precision necessary in many athletic events, and no "enlivening" is needed (perhaps SJ would like to see the riders in bikinis).

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 04:16 PM

Equestrian medals are undoubtedly the "softest" of all medals and the easiest to get... if you have lots of money!!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 05:01 PM

I wonder if tunedeaf ever rode a horse.
A Canadian equestrian suffered a concussion and spinal injury in a fall; "soft" medals?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 05:39 PM

There are NO 'soft' medals. Just try getting one and see...

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 06:14 PM

"Bloody negative and miserable" ...I at least try to be a realist, DonT, unlike the BBC's Olympic coverage: i.e., often they will have someone presenting a more critical view on a current affair, but NOT the last two weeks - no-one presenting the other side of the boxing coin, e.g., as the other Don - DonW - did just above.

Wall-to-wall gold-tinted unionist/monarchist propaganda: the sooner we have an EBC, SBC, and WBC, the better.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: s&r
Date: 08 Aug 12 - 07:37 PM

I tried not to post having read much of this thread, but I had forgotten how xenophobic, chauvinistic and downright bigoted your posts are David. Do give it a rest.

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 02:37 AM

"I at least try to be a realist"

I was talking specifically about your anti-female athlete attitude. I am not a monarchist and I am a nationalist. That has nothing to do with whether females compete in competition or not. If a sport deserves to be an olympic sport or not is always up for debate. Saying that one half of the population should be banned from participating in a particular sport because it doesn't fit with your sensibilities though is a different thing.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 02:45 AM

Q said:

"I wonder if tunedeaf ever rode a horse"

Yes I have BUT I certainly can't afford to buy and keep the sort of horse that Olympic riders have! And, I would guess, neither could over 90% of the rest of the world!

And, when Jessica Ennis won gold, she didn't have a bloody big expensive ( some of those horese are worth over £1,000,000) animal to get her over the hurdles!

AND, as in horse-racing, the best rider doesn't necessarily win.
The quality of the horse is a huge factor in who wins what!

It's elitist nonsense, and it's a disgrace that it's in the Olympics.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Stu
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 04:00 AM

At least the competitors of the dressage can eat their rides; horses taste so good on the barbie. You can't say the same for a 5-metre diving board.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 05:55 AM

"Yes I have BUT I certainly can't afford to buy and keep the sort of horse that Olympic riders have!"

Though to be fair neither can all the Olympic riders!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: s&r
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 07:05 AM

Many of the horses have ethnic backgrounds that do not seem appropriate for the Olympic team representing GB. Perhaps Suffolk Punch for England, Shetland ponies for Scotland and Welsh Cob for Wales would be more appropriate.

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 08:21 AM

""no-one presenting the other side of the boxing coin, e.g., as the other Don - DonW - did just above.""

If you want to claim to be a realist, you should try to learn to read posts properly.

Then you would know that the Don W, whose comments re banning all boxing you appear to like, was in fact ME!

The only other Don who has contributed to this thread is Don Firth back on 30th July.

You, on the other hand, are responsible for 35 of the 158 posts, approximately 22% of the total, and uniformly miserable and negative.

Do yourself a big favour. Get a Life!

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 01:14 PM

Typical lefty envy from tunesmith - usual rubbish.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 01:25 PM

Bonzo3legs, pray explain what is incorrect about my assertion that the value of a medal in an elitist sport,that probably only embraces 1% of the population of the world, is worth a lot less than a medal in a sport that embraces 99% of the world's population!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 02:52 PM

Wherever horses are a part of the culture, equestrian events are important to the people there.
Here in the Alberta ranching country, equestrian competitions are common and well-attended; tickets will be at a premium when the 2012 Masters is held at Spruce Meadows Sept. 5-9. Many of the riders who competed in the Olympics will be there; some already competed in the July 4-8 North American here.
Events for the novice rider begin in the spring, the large facility is busy throughout most of the year.

There are a number of horse and rider training stables here, boarding, horse leasing and training facilities are reasonable. It takes much work to develop the level of skill and perfect trust between rider and animal needed to be a successful equestrian.

Others take the "western" approach; perhaps soon barrel-racing will be added to the Olympic events; it too is a popular sport here.

Costs are much the same here for the recreational skier; his lift ticket and fitted equipment are expensive.

Guest Tunelost continues his poor boy boobird laments from the bottom of the barrel. I doubt that he has the ability to hold a job mucking out stables, and horses are too intelligent to ever accept his company.
I should ignore this trolling "guest," his ignorance is unbelievable and incurable.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 04:11 PM

Yes but they all pick their noses on the lavatory, so it makes them all equal.

Quite a chip you have tunesmith!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 04:11 PM

You can talk and talk and talk, but you can't ignore the truth of matter.
Please explain to me where I am going wrong with my assertions?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 04:29 PM

Where you are going wrong is in failing to appreciate that it is intrinsic skill which is being rewarded in the award of the medals. The total worldwide number of potential contestants from whom the highest achievers emerge is an irrelevance. You might as well say that the government elected by a country with a large population must be more just than that chosen by a smaller total electorate.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 04:45 PM

"Many of the horses have ethnic backgrounds that do not seem appropriate for the Olympic team representing GB"

What nonsense, hopefully polo will be added as an Olympic sport in Rio, especially as Brazil is a great polo playing country, as are many other South American states, and the whole of north America.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 05:21 PM

MtheGM says,

"Where you are going wrong is in failing to appreciate that it is intrinsic skill which is being rewarded in the award of the medals. The total worldwide number of potential contestants from whom the highest achievers emerge is an irrelevance. You might as well say that the government elected by a country with a large population must be more just than that chosen by a smaller total electorate.

~M~ "

Absolute NONSENSE!!!

Do you really think anyone from the tiny elitist group would have what it took to be a champion swimmer or athlete.
Give over!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 05:54 PM

"Do you really think anyone from the tiny elitist group would have what it took to be a champion swimmer or athlete.
Give over!"

But you're argument is based on the idea that every one of the equestrian medalists is from the landed gentry or super rich. They aren't. As I understand it the woman who won the dressage gold medal today was a stable girl who was given the chance to ride in competition because of her talent. Likewise another gold medalist, Scott Brash from Peebles, is just an ordinary local Borders lad who went to the comprehensive in Peebles and not some private school. I don't know him but I heard him being interviewed and he's not posh at all. So yes many of the competitors may be from the privilaged few - but not all of them are. If you are saying that Scott couldn't have won a swimming gold then yes, you are probably right, but how many of the swimming medalists could do what he does to that level?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 06:13 PM

If you love horses, don't ride them - they are guided by tugging on either side of their mouth, and their efforts to relieve the pain; women (and men) can do most things NOT anything; monarchism and imperialism, of which the union flag is a symbol, should be dissolved; the BBC have been biased in their coverage - allowing hardly any criticism of events in their broadcasts.

In the 1950s a lot would have agreed with me - http://davidfranks.blogspot.co.uk/

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 06:21 PM

Well that is another three gold medals for Great Britain - or as the BBC now has it on its page showing the medal table - Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Two golds for women in combat sports (ie boxing and tae-kwon-do) which will not please a certain poster. Britain is now surely going to end up third overall. Russia unlikely to pick up 13 golds in the last few days.

After coming way behind China four years ago the US must be happy that they are creeping into the lead now. Though it did point out on the BBC tonight that even though virtually everyone else uses gold medals as the defining factor in the overall medal table the US media etc just counts total medals. So according to them they were top four years ago anyway :-)

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 02:17 AM

As Tunesmith is clearly one of those whose working motto is "My mind is made up; please do not confuse me with facts", I see no point in addressing any further remark to him.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 02:32 AM

Tunesmith forgets that the entire Olympics is elitist, as all but a few participators are sponsored by big money. His sort are better left by the burger bars in Brighton I'm bound to say.

I look forward to polo joining the list of Olympic sports, it may give Argentina a better chance of doing better than joint 70th (bottom)!!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 03:18 AM

Bonzo3legs says

"Tunesmith forgets that the entire Olympics is elitist, as all but a few participators are sponsored by big money"

Well, there is money available, but an athlete has to do very well to get some of that money.
For example, in the UK, top athletes are funded by the National Lottery, but you have to get to a very high standard before you attract any money.

And, what about all those African runners!
There's hardly any money for them until they are good enough to run on the international circuit.

You can enjoy your enjoy your Equestrian Events but don't try to compare the achievements in that elitist sport with achievements in sports that draw its competitors from every country in the world, every colour, every living standard and every shade of colour.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 03:20 AM

Well, maybe not every living standard. Certainly from the very poor, but not many from the rich!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 04:05 AM

"women (and men) can do most things NOT anything;.............In the 1950s a lot would have agreed with me "

The bouts last night though showed that women most certainly can box! The fact that you don't like them to is a different issue altogether. Women were still barred from many events in the Olympics of the 1950s but that doesn't make it right! Just shows your reactionary tendancies. Plus you can't pick and choose when saying people in the 1950s would have agreed with you! The other points in your post would be totally out of kilter with the decade. The monarchy was much more revered than it is today; people were still proud of the British empire; and the SNP were a long way off from having their breakthrough in Scotland. So many of the people you say would support your views on women in sport would perhaps oppose virtually everything else you said! This is the 2010s. What folk would or would not have thought in the 1950s is pretty irrelevant. It was 60 years ago! A different world......

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 06:45 AM

It's true the monarchy here was strong then, Allan, as now, sadly; but it's also true that, for what it's worth, I'd be far less radical, overall, in the 1950s.

And even in the 1970s, when I played junior football, the number of girls competing at football was exactly equal to the number of boys competing at non-contact netball - ZERO. Attitudes change but certainly NOT always for the better. On the positive side, although obviously many still ride horses, e.g., overall cruelty to animals has dropped.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 07:45 AM

Girls have always played contact sport. In particular hockey! When I was at school in the 70s we (ie the rugby team) always used to play the girls at hockey during the last week of term and we'd get thumped, in more than once way. They could wield the sticks like demons. Likewise they commonly compete at the likes of judo, taekwondo etc. There is no valid argument for excluding them from boxing! The argument "I don't approve" just isn't a valid argument. As I said whether a sport should or shouldn't be an Olympic sport is of course debateable - but we shouldn't be prejudiced against anyone. Even the likes of saudi Arabia are wakening up to that!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 07:58 AM

Is running from the police good 100 metres training?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 08:17 AM

WAV, how about the The Munitionettes' Cup first held in 1917, for a history of women's football?

Allan,

It's really not worth wasting your breath. WAV is, and has been for many years, completely deluded. I doubt that you can change that.

Besides, he's Australian... (joke, no offence intended)

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MikeL2
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 01:50 PM

Hi

I can vouch for Alan's comments of the ladies with their hockey sticks. Our rugby club had similar fixtures and suffered similar fate.

Jolly hockey sticks no way. We had more bruises than in any rugby game.

I say if women wish to be involved in sport and are good enough then they should be allowed to do so. If anyone doesn't agree with it; the answer is simple....don't watch.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 05:44 PM

Strangely true - I recall women's (mouth guards and all) hockey was very popular around the time I was playing junior sports in the 1970s, in Sydney, when, as I say (and others have said the same of England at the time), no females were playing junior football.

"Besides, he's Australian..." (Ed)
NOT true - I keep fit with lawn tennis; have committed many English songs, carols, and hymns to memory on keyboards and English flute; have read widely from the anthology of English verse; was born in Manchester the day Alf Ramsey's English team one the world cup; AND my staple diet is pottages - http://walkaboutsverse.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/poem-206-of-230-my-diet-chasing-breads.html

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 04:37 AM

"how about the The Munitionettes' Cup first held in 1917, for a history of women's football?"

First women's match in England was seemingly as far back as 1895 when the North beat the South 7-1. The FA ostracised the women's game in the 1920s. We all know that women were widely discriminated against in society. Not allowed into many golf clubs unless they were serving the tea or mending the curtains etc. Some posters, well one poster anyway, seems to long for a return to those days. You are absolutely right about the Munitionettes. Hope I've done this blue clicky thingy correct!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAs6PaFDtf0

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: DMcG
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 05:02 AM

Really, we could do with more sport on the tv not less!
The whole country should be praying that a whole generation of obese kids will be inspired, by all these amazing young sports persons, to get out, get fit, and get healthy!

Each to their own, and I realise people can do both, but if I had to pick one I'd rather people were inspired to sit still and read something that improved their knowledge and understanding, not run about, however well they do it. So no: for me, far less sport on television and far more things that meet the 'educate' rather than 'entertain' objective.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 05:20 AM

Agree with me on this: Cycling BMX involves too much chance/too many crashes to be an Olympic sport.

I'm not really a fan, but why was baseball dropped? And, for the ladies, I'd definitely include netball...

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: billybob
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 05:31 AM

All I will say is that I have enjoyed every minute,both on the BBC and a wonderful day in Greenwich Park. Well done Seb Coe and the whole team, wont know what to do on Monday :-(
Wendy

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 05:53 AM

It has been a magnificent 2 weeks, superb internet coverage in very high quality indeed - I gave up trying to grapple with freesat TV channels, which is my wife's domain anyway.

"I'd rather people were inspired to sit still and read something that improved their knowledge and understanding, not run about, however well they do it" - I bet your house is a bundle of fun!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: DMcG
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 06:01 AM

I bet your house is a bundle of fun!!
*smile* Only my opinion, and those of my family, but, yes, we'd say so. Of course, you have to bear in mind that yesterday my daughter sat in the hairdressers reading "Philosophy Now" rather than the mags supplied, so I doubt if everyone would agree with our idea of fun...

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: DMcG
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 06:04 AM

Philosophy Now

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 06:11 AM

Everybody has to enjoy reading something! I read Modern Railways last night - except for the boring bits.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 08:36 AM

"I'm not really a fan, but why was baseball dropped?"

Don't know exactly what criteria is used - but rugby 7s (invented here in the Scottish Borders) is being introduced to the Olympics in 2016.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 08:59 AM

Proper grammar school boys would know all about rugby 7s.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 12:20 PM

"grammar school boys" Here in the Borders it is kind of like south Wales. Rugby is the traditional working class sport.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 06:03 PM

I'd imagine that if you are a serious athlete, the last thing you'd want to do is doss around watching sport on the telly. Spectator sport is very much second best. Rather like spectator music as opposed to laying it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 07:32 PM

"09 Aug 12 - 06:13 PM
If you love horses, don't ride them - they are guided by tugging on either side of their mouth, and their efforts to relieve the pain;"WAV

As I recall, we've gone through this before. Your statement is NOT true, at least not for the western riding horse. Have you never heard of 'neck reining'? Western style riding does not saw on the mouth but the rein is pressed on the neck opposite to the direction required.

Causing pain in a performing horse is counter productive. It is essential that the horse be a willing partner.

I would greatly appreciate your educating yourself on such matters rather than spouting false charges.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Aug 12 - 10:11 PM

FEI, the equestrian association, has member organizations in almost every country in the world- every color, every shade etc. etc.
Included are Albania, Antigua, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bolivia, Botswana, Cambodia, China, Congo DR, Haiti, Jamaica, Kenya, Malawi, Myanmar, etc. etc.

www.fei.org

Tuneless knows absolutely nothing about any sport, and the staggerer obviously has never shared companionship with a horse. Two trolls in the fountain.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 12 Aug 12 - 04:33 AM

Q, you're not getting away with that, mate!
The truth is in the medal tables!
It's a rich European clique!

Olympic Equestrian Medal table

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Aug 12 - 11:25 AM

"Western style riding does not saw on the mouth but the rein is pressed on the neck opposite to the direction required." Ebbie - yes we have steered onto this before, and perhaps Western style is less cruel, but you indirectly back me up with the words "saw on the mouth" re the way most horse riding is done.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 12 Aug 12 - 08:05 PM

A great two weeks.
The NY papers are saying these Olympics were one of the best.
Congratulations to everyone who contributed to its success.