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Subject: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Georgiansilver Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:37 PM It may seem a strange question to some... but who do you live your life for? You get one crack at it... only one performance with no rehearsals....... so who do you live it for... your girlfriend/wife/partner.... or yourself???????????? Tell me! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:46 PM That is one hell of a big question. I'll PM you about it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: John MacKenzie Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:49 PM I live it for me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Amos Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:52 PM Depends on what you mean by Who, GS. It's an interesting and flexible word, you know. And even Jesus knew how big the scope is within a single Who when you start looking... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:56 PM I think that Jesus probably understood exactly who one lives one's life for. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Ebbie Date: 01 Sep 12 - 05:16 PM Ah. I was feeling bad when I realized I'd have to admit that I was probably living it for myself, but when Amos brought up Jesus a biblical line came to me: Love thy neighbor as thyself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: John MacKenzie Date: 01 Sep 12 - 05:21 PM You cannot live other people's lives for them. Just ask any parent! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: gnu Date: 01 Sep 12 - 05:41 PM Wise words, John. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Beer Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:05 PM Probably the heaviest thread ever posted GS. I think I live for myself as well. But without a doubt, I live for others as well. My wife, children, grand child, brothers and sisters and friends. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Don Firth Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:06 PM A good friend of mine of the Jewish persuasion had a small piece of paper in a picture frame on his living room wall with a saying in Hebrew. I asked him what it said. He told me that it was a saying of Rabbi Hillel, first century BCE. If I am not for myself, who am I?Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:31 PM Very very thought-provoking Georgiansilver. I live for God first. Then I try to be true to myself. Then I live for my fellow men and women, and I also live for wildlife and Nature. That's a tall order and I fail miserably a lot of the time. I suppose if I was expressing this in a moral philosophy sort of way, I'd say I lived for The Good. I gained much insight into all this from several nuns I've known over the years. If one clings to God and The Righteous Life, one is reasonably safe. But other, less ideal things drag one away at times (eg pleasure, money, greed, materialism, self-indulgence, excitement, sex etc etc) One can only try! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bobert Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:53 PM Well, life is strange and filled with change... When I was 15 and playing on a championship baseball team I'd have to say it would have been my coach... Then it was... And then it was... I reckon that most of us are at that age where there are fewer laps in the windshield than in the rear view mirror and so, at least for me, the answer to that question has to be... ...the P-Vine... And I'd be perfectly willing to go the distance without that changing... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Georgiansilver Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:07 PM Personally I try my hardest to live my life... guided by the Holy Spirit... by God... but like so many other Christians I fail miserably. I get so much wrong and often say the wrong thing... I try to live for God but end up living for me, for God, if that makes sense...... I am too much of a 'human being' with thoughts other than those I should have to be a good Christian. However!!!!! I shall keep trying! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:16 PM I think it's natural to fail and falter. But the thing is to have the Ideal in ones mind and just head for it as best you can. I can be horribly selfish. After decades and decades of life, I still seem to have so much still to learn! I have this funny picture in my head of me arriving at the Pearly Gates at last, and God just shaking His head and saying "Oh dear! Oh dear!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bobert Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:30 PM Kinda a trick question for those of us of Faith... Do we live for God and because of God??? Sure, we want to please Him but seein' as we are here at His insistence I think the best way to please Him is to live life much the way Jesus and the Father would have us do... The Holy Spirit??? Not so much... The Holy Spirit is more a messenger than a strings puller... So yeah... I want very much to please God and Jesus and my love here on this Earth, in this life, is how I best can do that... I'm stickin' with my answer: the P-Vine... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:34 PM Bobert, love is truly good. You can't go far wrong with that in your heart. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Henry Krinkle Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:56 PM I live for lust and lust for life. (:-( P)= |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:59 PM Kree-gah! That's a real serious question, Geo-Silv. I gotta think carefully here... Well, in the first place, ya gotta take care of yerself, cos that is yer responsibility. So I am livin' for myself in that sense. On the other hand, ya gotta have ideals too or yer nothin' better than a dirty mango-stealer that would sell out his own ma at a moment's notice. I had the choice in fronta me when I landed in New York City of joinin' a criminal gang...the short cut to some illusory form of "security" and self-esteem....or workin' my way up into some position of social responsibility to my fellow apes, monkeys, and humans. For a brief time I flirted with petty crime. I did some bad things which I am real sorry about. But I woke up pretty quick and realized that if ya don't struggle for the greater good, yer life ain't worth a hill of beans. So I joined the forces of the law, and I have never looked back. For that I can thank Humphrey Bogart. He opened my eyes to the truth in them great movies he made. I have also always tried to treat females with maximum courtesy and appreciation, be they ape, monkey or human. I have trouble relatin' to dogs for some reason...mainly that they go nuts when they see me...but I am hopin' to reach a truce with 'em one of these days. Religiously speakin', I take my example from the tragic life and death of King Kong, an ape who was took from his natural home by treachery and force, subjected to public humiliation like a carnival freak, and gunned down by a brain-dead system that figgered he was just in their way. He died for all of us. I've also been readin' some about Jesus lately, and I see that he sacrificed himself too on behalf of all sufferin' people and did nothin' but good works while he was here on Earth. I gotta say I really admire that. I think people oughta find themselves a good role model like Jesus, Humphrey Bogart, or King Kong, and aim for the highest good they can. So...ultimately what we should be livin' for...and I try...is the highest Good that we are capable of understandin' and achievin'. - Chongo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Rapparee Date: 01 Sep 12 - 10:51 PM I once asked the question here "What Are You Willing To Die For?" This question is similar and so is the answer, as I see it anyway. If you can't answer both I think you haven't really explored yourself and what you believe in. Ecclesiastes 3:1-22. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 02 Sep 12 - 05:31 AM I've had a good think, and I'm afraid I wouldn't be willing to die for anyone or anything. I would cling to life at all costs. I suppose it's the natural instinct of survival. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: John MacKenzie Date: 02 Sep 12 - 05:52 AM To split hairs on this one. Being willing to die, smacks of fanaticism, whereas. Being prepared to die, speaks more of heroism. I am none of the above. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Megan L Date: 02 Sep 12 - 05:59 AM What my beliefs are, are personal to me they are deeply held but I refuse to impose them on the lives of others. I live because I am alive. If in the way I live my life I can help those around me live their lifes free from or in some way lessen pain, fear or need then I will do whatever I can to make that happen. I try to treat those around me with respect not because it is what I want them to show me but because it is who I am. If I can make them stop for a moment in a busy day and smile or laugh then it is a good day. I try to live my life without judgement. Sometimes i am saddedned or worried by something someone I care about does because I can see the danger it poses to their health or wellbeing but I refuse to judge them I choose to love them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Will Fly Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:03 AM I've never "lived my life" consciously for anyone or anything. I live, from minute to minute and day to day, doing what seems right and proper on the minute and on the day. My family matters very much to me. Good friends matter very much to me. If they need love, help or support, they get all I can give. Music matters very much to me. Good food, good wine, good companionship, conviviality - all add to the mix. I am not and never have been religious - rejecting all that very firmly and for (to me) good reasons from a very early age. I would call myself a reasonably liberal humanist and atheist, with a slight tendency to sarcasm and whimsy when irritated by the world... :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: kendall Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:51 AM I'm a Deist. I had nothing to do with being born, and I have no control over when or how I "snuff it". I live because it seems like the right thing to do. That being said, I also do my best to make my friends and relatives glad to have me in their lives.I also feel an obligation to leave the world better than I found it; thats probably why I became a conservation officer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: G-Force Date: 02 Sep 12 - 12:33 PM Well, being British, I live fifty percent of it for the taxman. The other fifty percent is for me and my good lady. Before you say 'what about other people?', see the first fifty percent. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Sep 12 - 02:25 PM There are certain people on whose behalf I would be willing to risk death, depending on the situation. Why? Well, I love them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 02 Sep 12 - 05:15 PM i should like to say that i live primarily for my God and Saviour but as the bible says "the heart is decietful...who can know it" so more acurrately i would say it is what i aim at. i do think that "love thy neighbour as thyself" is a single command not a double.the "as thyself" is a given; even though some, sadly, say that they hate themselves |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Charley Noble Date: 02 Sep 12 - 05:41 PM I continue to live so as to have some positive impact on my friends and family, whether they appreciate it or not. When they do appreciate what I do, it's a whole lot nicer! God has nothing to do with it, as far as I'm concerned. Neither does the Internal Revenue Service. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: gnu Date: 02 Sep 12 - 06:43 PM John... Megan... thanks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Elmore Date: 03 Sep 12 - 11:44 AM My wife. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Ebbie Date: 03 Sep 12 - 12:20 PM "I perceived that there is nothing better for them than to be joyful and to do good as long as they live; also that everyone should eat and drink and take pleasure in all his toil—this is God's gift to man." To my mind, the question would more easily be answered if it were:What do you live for. 'Who' is a trick question, not really answerable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bill D Date: 03 Sep 12 - 02:10 PM "Who" ...coming from Georgiansilver .....is an open invitation to make answers religious. You know in advance how he and a few others here would tend to answer. Some make their religious answers #1, some list it differently. \ I have not made a choice, as I basically agree with Ebbie. Even answering 'what' would take me several paragraphs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Amos Date: 03 Sep 12 - 03:19 PM I don't think there is a being alive who does not live, one way or another, for multiple dimensions. Everyone strives to keep a self going, most add a close relationship of some kind such as a spouse, children. There are few who do not identify with some group, a town or a club or a profession or a larger group like a sub-species, and put some effort into bringing about some good for it. There are probably a dozen other facets that are common to most humans, including, for example, physical possessions, other kinds of life, and so on. So I think the question as posed is a tawdry rhetorical device, pot-metal and paint, as far as moral or intellectual substance is concerned. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Georgiansilver Date: 03 Sep 12 - 03:56 PM BillD. You stated :->>>>>>"Who" ...coming from Georgiansilver .....is an open invitation to make answers religious. You know in advance how he and a few others here would tend to answer.<<<<<<. Looking at the way my original question was asked, how could you come to that assumption?...... In actual fact, when I was writing the question I was going through one of those times when I was recognising some of my own selfishness.. I still live too much for me and not for others...... that is what prompted the question. People who are Christian are not perfect but it won't stop me trying........ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: kendall Date: 03 Sep 12 - 04:07 PM I wish I was a believer, but alas,it seems so egotistical to think that there is an omnipotent being up there somewhere who needs humans to write his/her/its rules, and gives a damn for me or any other of its creations. I'm not knocking anyone Else's faith, I wish I could join you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bill D Date: 03 Sep 12 - 04:33 PM " Looking at the way my original question was asked, how could you come to that assumption?.." I make that assumption based on the many posts you made several years ago. Your religious dedication was clear in most of you discussions. But I didn't comment until after your 2nd post in THIS thread, where you say: "Personally I try my hardest to live my life... guided by the Holy Spirit... by God..." and I did use the word "tend" in making my assumption. You DO say "In actual fact, when I was writing the question I was going through one of those times when I was recognising some of my own selfishness.. I still live too much for me and not for others...." and throughout that statement, based on what you have said many times, I see a reflection of your desire to replace YOUR desires and goals and behavior with what you consider to be God's will and commandments. From your viewpoint, as a religious person, I even see that as almost a necessary goal. I'm sure you would wish that non-believers would 'change', be 'saved' and develop goals and lives that reflect what YOU are quite sure is the 'true path'... so I answered in the way I did. Had a total stranger asked the question, *I* might have chimed in earlier. Asking yourself such questions can help you sort out feelings and perhaps even point you in new directions, but as you see, those who approach the issue from different directions do not even want to deal with the question phrased that way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Joe_F Date: 03 Sep 12 - 08:20 PM Nobody. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: gnu Date: 03 Sep 12 - 08:45 PM Ebbie.... yeah. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: michaelr Date: 03 Sep 12 - 09:03 PM I know better than to get into religious discussions, but I can't help but wonder how one "lives for God". What does that even mean? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Charley Noble Date: 03 Sep 12 - 10:05 PM So far no one has mentioned cigarets, whiskey, and wild, wild women. But I do appreciate what Kendall has said above. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Rob Naylor Date: 03 Sep 12 - 10:42 PM I'm with Will Fly here: I too live from day to day, and try to live as much as possible by the idea of "do as you would be done by". Friends, family and enjoying life are very important to me. I try and help people if they need it. I too rejected religion from an early age, but then spent a number of years looking into Christianity, Buddhism, Islam and other religions and philosophies....not sure whether I was looking for something to believe in or just confirming to myself (within the balance of probabilities) that my rejection of it was reasonable. I used to have great fun arguing with creationists on "talk.origins" but realised after the same fallacies had been knocked down dozens or hundreds of times that they would continue to spout stuff that had been shown to be rubbish for years, sometimes decades, after having been shown that it was wrong. So I stopped. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Bobert Date: 03 Sep 12 - 10:47 PM Not to sure who wrote this but... "If you go before me and we don't get a chance to say good bye I'll be coming right behind you So meet me in the south side of the sky" I don't much think that if I lost my wife, the P-Vine, I'd want to go on... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Amos Date: 03 Sep 12 - 11:09 PM God is a verb, born from within; to live "for" it is merely an effort to find one's highest perspectives and integraste one's consciousness to it. I think it is something all people of good conscience and consciousness do, without needing any dogma or definitions to encourage them. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: theleveller Date: 04 Sep 12 - 04:30 AM Interesting discussion with Stephen Dawkins on Radio 4 at the moment, regarding The Selfish Gene and The God Delusion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Georgiansilver Date: 04 Sep 12 - 05:17 AM Bill... everyone can deal with any question in any way they wish to. They can even ignore it if they are not sure of or happy with the way it is phrased. Posts on here do not need to be answered do they? I make no excuse for being Christian.. that is my choice and I attempt to live by 'certain standards' without going into great detail. However there are those who dislike Christians... or religious people and their faith/belief and can't help but attack them for their views or the way they portray themselves, however well meaning. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: kendall Date: 04 Sep 12 - 06:32 AM It's interesting how closely Jesus resembles the ancient Egyptian god Horus. Even the Golden Rule was borrowed from the code of Hammurabi. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: theleveller Date: 04 Sep 12 - 06:52 AM The regeneration idea of a willing sacrificial victim born again is a continuous theme in many beliefs way before Christianity. Read Robert Graves' 'The White Goddess'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: John P Date: 04 Sep 12 - 09:48 AM Everyone lives for themselves. If you believe in God, that belief is a part of you, so when you say you live for God, you are saying that you live the way you think you should. If you say you live for your mate, you are responding to something within yourself that makes living for your mate a good idea. And so forth. I'm not sure it's possible for anyone to live for anyone or anything else, unless they are a slave with absolutely no freedom of choice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 04 Sep 12 - 12:09 PM In which case, John one can thus ask "In what way do you live as you think you should?", which would be a perfectly valid and interesting question. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who do you live your life for? From: Mooh Date: 04 Sep 12 - 12:51 PM Those around me, and our surroundings. Family, friends, the community of clients/customers/students, churches, schools, businesses, and the environment in which we live and work. Peace, Mooh. |
