Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,IS
Date: 08 Apr 24 - 03:19 AM

The Scottish Music Centre in Glasgow has the capacity to digitise a variety of analogue formats. Give them a call...

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Apr 24 - 07:42 PM

That was me.

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Apr 24 - 03:22 PM

I just bought both tapes in an Edinburgh charity shop (along with three tapes of "Coronach"). Anybody local got a digitizing cassette player?

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,John Ford
Date: 29 Feb 24 - 01:17 PM

I am also a keen fan of this group, and many, many years ago I contacted Fiona Ritchie (somehow, I forgot how) and she and her assistant were unable to even find the tape/CD of what they played on that episode of T&S.

I still have the tape of T&S but have no idea where at the moment, and I never heard the full recordings, just those samples on T&S. But, it was some off the most inspiring music I ever heard in my life.

If anyone can help "re-find" this music I'd love to have it.

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Feb 24 - 07:24 PM

Wow! I hardly expected such a quick response. Many thanks.

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,Kenny again
Date: 17 Feb 24 - 05:05 PM

Sorry - computer interrupted - as I was saying :

3 - "Rory Dall's Port" [ Attr. to Niel Gow ]
4 - Plainsong - [ Thomas Robinson ] ( Danish )
5 - "A 'Aite Cheildh (Jean Urquhart's Air ) [ Jozef Lozowy ]
6 - "Clanranald's Reel" [ from the Niel Gow Collection ]
7 - "Ye Gods O' Love" - [ Attr. to Rory Dall ]
8 - "The Flooers O' Edinburgh / Reel - [ Trad. ]

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,Kenny
Date: 17 Feb 24 - 04:38 PM

Side A

1 - "O'er Hills, O'er Mountains" - [ Andro Beck ]
2 - "This Is No My Ain Hoose / Blue Bonnets Across The Border [Trad.]
3 - Gavotta - Guiseppe Brescianello (Italian)
4 - "As She Cam Ben" [ Trad. ]
5 - "The Drunken Wives O' Carlisle" [ Attr. to Niel Gow ]
6 - "So Ben Mi Chi Ha Boun Tempo" - Cesare Negri [ Italian ]
7 - "Woodycock" [ Trad. ]
8 - "Prelude En Ray Minore" - [ Robert de Visee (French) ]
9 - "Black Eye'd Mary ( The Lament of Culloden )
      [ Attr. to Tearlach O'Carolan ]

Side B

1 - "The Highland Hunt" [ Trad. ]
2 - "Trojan Warriors" - Tobias Hume [ English ]

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Feb 24 - 02:20 AM

Can do - I'll get back to you. Must dash.

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,Gavin McCord
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 06:47 PM

I know this is an old thread, but I was just wondering if anyone
had the track listings for O'er Hills, O'er Mountains which was the second tape released, IIRC. I've actually got the compilation Blue Bonnets under the Aon Brach name but I preferred the earlier selection. I'd be up for a swap if anyone's interested. Gavin

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,Jack Campin
Date: 03 Sep 19 - 12:13 PM

I just looked Thorby up, and got a page about ceramic art. She retired from recorder playing in 2016 and went potty.

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 03 Sep 19 - 10:23 AM

I sent 4 tapes to Joe this morning. He should receive them soon.
All the best, Kenny

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 15 Aug 19 - 11:57 AM

Email sent - please reply to let me know that you have received it.

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,Chesko Gonzalez
Date: 10 Aug 19 - 07:48 AM

Thanks a lot, Kenny. I'd like to pay for them. I am looking forward to hearing from you.

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 10 Aug 19 - 05:18 AM

Very busy at the moment, but I will get back to you about this.
Regards, Kenny

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,Chesko Gonzalez
Date: 08 Aug 19 - 12:57 PM

Hello, Joe Lozowy, the brain behind Strathgallan, is my step father and he would be glad to recover this cassettes because he hasn't got any copy. Please, if Kenny (or his brother or someone who has a copy of the cassettes) are reading my post, please contact me:

Chesko Gonzalez
email: [e-mail]
Telephone number: 0049 15225850696 (wahssap)

Please, it's very important for him. He is still living in Blairgowrie.

Thanks in advance

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: Jack Campin
Date: 31 Jul 18 - 05:20 PM

Pamela Thorby is now one of England's leading recorder players. I have a couple of her CDs (some are with the Palladian Ensemble). She's easy to track down. I thought about buying a used recorder from her once but didn't like it as much as I thought I would.

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 31 Jul 18 - 04:37 PM

Jo Lozowy also had a group called "Aon Brach", which released a cassette tape in 1992. That tape insert includes an address for "Caileach Music" which is as follows :

2 Paterson Drive, Blairgowrie, Perthshire, PH10 4HE, Scotland.

I did a "Google" search for "Jozef Lozowy" and it would appear he may still be at the same address. Anyone wanting to make inquiries about "The Strathallan Early Music Group" could try writing to that address.
Best of luck, Kenny.

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 31 Jul 18 - 04:29 PM

"O'er The Hills, O'er Mountains" :

Pamela Thorby - recorder
Rachel Smith - violin
Lorna Ogilvy - cello
Gregor Young - percussion
James Hume - guitar
Jozef Lozowy - guitar

.. and features on stage as narrator - Edward Jordan

"The Beggar's Meal Poke" :

Lucy Crispin - recorders / vocals
Rachel Smith - violin
Nikki Thaw - cello
Gregor Young - percussion
James Hume - guitar
Jozef Lozowy - guitar / director
Joanna Fagg - percussion / vocals

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,GUEST,ingo
Date: 31 Jul 18 - 02:11 PM

I just digitized my cassettes, among them "Oer Hills O'er Mountains" and "The Beggars Meal Poke" from the "Strathallan Early Music Group", which I bought 1988 after a concert of this group in Pitlochry, Scotland. Since the insert of the first cassette contains no information of the complement, while the second contains no insert at all, I tried to find theese informations in the omniscient internet - with the same results as freddfish. The only find was this thread! And I read it with amazement. Perhaps freddfishs quest is now answered by Terpsichore Music in Coupar Angus, otherwise I could contribute some help for my cassettes are in good shape as well as the CD I made of them. Could anybody help me to find out complement of the group (Instruments, names) and the titles of the two recordings?

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Apr 17 - 03:53 PM

The group was called The Strathallen Early Music Group. The recording O'er the Hills, O're the Mountains in 1988. Originally available through Terpischore Music in Angus, Perthshire, Scotland.

Subject: RE: Origins: The Strathallan Early Music Group
From: GUEST,stewart
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 07:36 PM

hi all . just came across your post and wondered if you could help find a old friend gregor young how also played some guitar and baraham on the beggars meal poke .. any help would be great thanks . stewart

Subject: RE: Origins: strathallan eireann music group
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 14 Mar 13 - 07:04 AM

Your'e in luck, folks. It is indeed "The Strathallan Early Music Group". I know this because it was my brother who made the tapes, and I'm sitting looking at 2 of them right now. You made mention of "O'er Hills, O'er Mountains", which was recorded in 1988. I also have "The Beggar's Meal Poke" which was recorded a year earlier on Dougie MacLean's "Dunkeld" label. The brains behind these projects, as I recall was a guitar player called Jo Lozowy, who I met years ago, but haven't seen in maybe 15 years.
I don't know if these recordings ever made it onto CD - I'll ask my brother next time I speak to him, as he would probably have made the CDs as well.
Alternatively, there is an address on the "O'er Hills..." tape which you could write to and ask. The address is :

"Terpsichore Music",
4 Campbell Street, Coupar Angus,
Perthshire PH13 9BW

If you write to them, and the recordings are no longer available either on CD or tape, ask them if it would be OK for me to "Digitise" them onto a CD for you, and I'll do that.
It may help if you say that the person making the offer is the brother of the guy who made the recordings for him in the first place. I'm not sure if Jo would remember me or not - it was a good while ago we met.
Good luck,   Kenny

Subject: RE: Origins: strathallan eireann music group
From: Gutcher
Date: 14 Mar 13 - 05:09 AM

Can"t say I"ve heard of it but as they are playing Jacobite tunes they are more likely to be called "The Airlie Music Group" or "The Strathallan Early Music Group" rather than "Eireann".
Check out the Jacobite song "The Bonny Hoose O Airlie". This can be found sung by Belle Stewart and others on the Tober an Dualchais site.

Subject: RE: Origins: strathallan eireann music group
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Mar 13 - 09:16 PM

There's just a mention here:
http://www.scottishmusiccentre.com/catalogue/c34169/?action=backpage&scope=memplans

Subject: RE: Origins: strathallan eireann music group
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Mar 13 - 07:07 PM

I live in Russia, I have the same problem. I can not find the music. Lost tapes. I heard it in 1990-92, the first time. I thought that the Internet would help, but no links.

Subject: RE: Origins: strathallan eireann music group
From: GUEST,freddfish
Date: 04 Sep 12 - 08:55 AM

I listened to the tape again, since my first post. It COULD be The Strathallan Eireann Music Group, The Strathallan "Airley" Music Group, or The Strathallan "Early" Music Group.

It is a tad hard for me to make out, as Fiona Ritchie has a pronounced Scottish accent, and I suspect something may have gotten garbled in the translation.

Subject: Origins: strathallan eireann music group
From: freddfish
Date: 03 Sep 12 - 09:55 PM

Howdy folks

In the States, we have a show on our public radio station called The Thistle and Shamrock, hosted by Fiona Richie. She plays great music, by artists performing in the Celtic traditional styles, and the show has has been on the air for quite some time. It may be on the air in England-Scotland-Ireland as well, but I can't speak to that.

Many years ago, I recorded a part of her show to a cassette tape, and captured some really nice stuff. One set of tunes in particular was called "o'er Hills O'er Mountains" and Richie credited it to a band called The Strathallan Eireann Music Group. It is a wonderful collection of songs that are meant to chronicle the Jacobite Rising from beginning to defeat. Lots of good pipe and whistle tunes matched up with some really stirring melodys.

Well, the cassette is on it's last legs, so I figure no problem...I went on the Internet to see if I couldn't get the CD or perhaps an MP3 download from Amazon. It didn't show on Amazon at all, and a google search yielded nothing as well, to my surprise. It is like the group never existed. (key "Twilight Zone" theme music....)

Ordinairily I would just blow this off and get something else, but this was some really good music that I would like to have around, and as I say, the tape is banjaxed. Has anyone heard of this band? Perhaps I am spelling the name wrong in my searches...fI am at a loss to figure this out.

Any help tracking this band and CD down would be greatly appreciated.

Take care, ya'll

freddfish