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Live Music rule changed

Mr Happy 01 Oct 12 - 09:13 AM
Leadfingers 01 Oct 12 - 09:16 AM
Girl Friday 01 Oct 12 - 10:16 AM
GUEST,davemc 01 Oct 12 - 12:27 PM
GUEST,punkfolkrocker 01 Oct 12 - 12:35 PM
GUEST,999 01 Oct 12 - 12:58 PM
BillE 01 Oct 12 - 01:20 PM
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GUEST,henryp 01 Oct 12 - 01:44 PM
Brian Peters 01 Oct 12 - 07:38 PM
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Subject: Live Music rule changed
From: Mr Happy
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 09:13 AM

Story here:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19783855

Discuss


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 09:16 AM

We all knew it was going to happen ! Nice to see it confirmed though


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: Girl Friday
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 10:16 AM

Yes !


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: GUEST,davemc
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 12:27 PM

Great to see the Tories overturning Labour's attack on live music.


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 12:35 PM

Sounds brilliant...

almost too good to be true...

.. but it is the tories; so what's the catch !!!???


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: GUEST,999
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 12:58 PM

Congratulations. It's good the finally got their heads out of--well, ya know what I mean.


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: BillE
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 01:20 PM

Not the Tories! It was done through a private member's bill introduced by Lib Dem MP Don Foster. Credit where credit's due!


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: GUEST,999
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 01:23 PM

I hope Don Foster receives thanks from the various clubs and pubs that will benefit from the bill.


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 01:39 PM

oops.. my mistake, forgot the liberals had any influence in this coalition..

But very much doubt the tories would let anything pass if there wasn't something in it for them .....


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 01:40 PM

oops.. my mistake, forgot the liberals had any influence in this coalition..

But very much doubt the tories would let anything pass if there wasn't something in it for them .....


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 01:44 PM

Don Foster steered the bill through the House of Commons on behalf of Liberal Democrat peer Lord Clement Jones. It's not often that a House of Lords private member's bill becomes law.


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: Brian Peters
Date: 01 Oct 12 - 07:38 PM

"Great to see the Tories overturning Labour's attack on live music."

Make that "New Labour's attack on live music."

You have to hope that the present Labour Party would have more sense.


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: Tootler
Date: 02 Oct 12 - 03:59 PM

Good news, but it looks like the dept. of killjoys might still be at it. This arrived in my inbox today: (extract from longer message forwarded from Hamish Birchall)


...It all sounds great - but the benefits for pubs and bars could be undermined if a worrying and indeed misleading suggestion within the DCMS revised licensing Guidance is ratified.
>
> This Guidance is secondary legislation to which licensing authorities 'must have regard'. The words of the Licensing Act take precedence, but the Guidance is what usually informs licensing officer enforcement. And paragraph 15.14 of the revised draft wrongly suggests that licensing officers might in certain cases circumvent the LMA and impose pre-emptive conditions on live music even when there has been no licence review. The draft was put out for public consultation by DCMS on 22 August and this closes on 28 September: http://www.culture.gov.uk/consultations/9291.aspx
>
> Serious concerns have already been raised by the music industry and campaigners, but it is not yet clear whether they will be satisfactorily addressed.   The new Guidance will probably not be published until the end of October. If it fails to meet the concerns already raised, its implementation could be further delayed in Parliament or subject to judicial review.
>
> For some campaigners, like John King, the revised licensing Guidance may create more problems than it solves for live music. His thorough and entertaining analysis has been published today by MusicTank: http://www.musictank.co.uk/blog/devil-in-the-detail
>
> For a DCMS summary of the effect of the Live Music Act see:
> http://www.culture.gov.uk/what_we_do/regulated_entertainment/8955.aspx [scroll down]


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 02 Oct 12 - 04:17 PM

We have the license until 2044, so it soean't affect us, even though we can only get 100 in.

Th eissue I see is, does this mean that health and safety checks on venues will no longer apply, Our evnue had to pay over £500 last year to have things doen to the elctrics etc. Does that stop?


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 02 Oct 12 - 04:48 PM

Sorry about the spelling. I just type and post :-) I know I should check.


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Subject: RE: Live Music rule changed
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 02 Oct 12 - 07:13 PM

""Congratulations. It's good the finally got their heads out of--well, ya know what I mean.""

No Bruce, that was the other lot, who introduced it in 2003, and they still have their heads firmly stuck up there.

Don T.


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