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Subject: someone must know somthing about BERT
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Date: 26 Oct 99 - 01:28 PM

Dose anybody know any tunes by Bert Jansch. I have tried searching the OLGA for stuff but there is very little. if anyone out there knows anywhere i could get my hands on anything or is kind enough to type it up i would be extreamly greatfull.

kkrisw@hotmail.comm

or

kris@TRAVERSE.co.uk ...............................cheers


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: Freddie Fox
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 04:58 PM

I know very little / nothing about Bert Jansch, but I have one song in a book - Ramblin's Gonna be the death of Me. I will scan it in and e-mail it to you if you don't have it. Do you want full tab as well as melody, lyrics and chords?


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: Freddie Fox
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 04:59 PM

Sorry - emai8l address julia.chantrell@lineone.net


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: Magpie
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 06:33 PM

I don't know a lot about him, but I know that Bert Jansch is/was? one part of the band PENTANGLE, along with John Renbourn, Danny Thompson, Terry Cox and Jaqui McShee. You'll probably find something about them out there on the Net.

Magpie


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: Micca
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 06:59 PM

I am sure in the Folk section of Virgin Oxford St early this year I saw re-issues of several of his early solo albums, and, of course, Paul Simon allegedly used some of his tunes/style/arrangements without attribution,along with stuff learned from John Renbourn, picked up in and around "Les Cousins" in the 60s, At least there were rumours to this effect among Folkies of the time.


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: Helge in Norway
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 07:17 PM

I agree with Neil Young, he said about Bert he got to be the acoustic players answer to Jimi Hendrix

Try this out. http://www.fuzzlogic.com/argus/j/Jansch,Bert.shtml

Helge hlyster@c2i.net


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: Freddie Fox
Date: 27 Oct 99 - 08:44 AM

If he's with Pentangle, I have a couple of LP's somewhere. Will dig them out late and let you know.


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: Roger the skiffler
Date: 27 Oct 99 - 09:18 AM

Notorious RtS thread creep warning:
Two of BJ's early LPs have been re-released on CD (Young Man's Blues/Live in Glasgow). I saw him live once in 1967 or 1968 in a pub in Leicester Square (??Blue Posts??). He was so "tired and emotional" that his introductions were unintelligible and he kept faling off his stool, but his playing, even in that state, was amazing. The sleeve notes to the CD referred to above tell how he got a Brownie McGhee tune down note perfect after watching him play it once. I preferred his solo work to the Pentangle days.


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: alison
Date: 27 Oct 99 - 09:33 AM

He was in Oz about 2 years ago....... he was at a festival I was at.... and I had been told to make sure I saw him...... He was AWFUL!!! sounded like a very bad Van Morrison on an extremely bad day..... sorry..

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: John Wood
Date: 29 Oct 99 - 03:43 PM

Bert Jansch is the acoustic guitarist who has probably had more influence than anyone else in developing modern finger picking style.I first came acoss him around 1965 when his first solo album was released.The impact that album had in acoustic guitar circles was similar to the release a few years later of ``Sergent Pepper´´.
This thread seems rather negative.
Bert has made over 30 solo albums,plus several with John Rebourn,and together with ``THE PENTANGLE´´.
There is a song book which came out in 1967;don't know if there are any more,though there probably is.The guy has written dozens of songs
He is also still touring.....saw on his gig list that he'll be at the ``Celts In Kent´´Festival 14/15 Nov.

Greetings John.


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Subject: BERT JANSCH
From: Lost in Los Angeles
Date: 29 Oct 99 - 08:08 PM

Click here for some information that might interest you.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: Wee Ally
Date: 30 Oct 99 - 03:40 PM

I grew up in Edinburgh and we sort of took Jansch for granted in the '60s - he came from Glasgow originally (I think) but he performed regularly in Edin, mainly, in the early days, with John Renbourn, and later with Pentangle. His early stuff was brilliant - I still have a couple of his first LPs. He was influenced, of course, by Davy Graham, who is a real talent still. Last time I saw Jansch performing was about 5 years ago in Edinburgh. He still plays well but I was somewhat underwhelmed, and a bit disappointed as I'd been one of his greatest fans for the best part of 30 years. Over all this time he doesn't seem to have developed his style or technique at all - you'd think he'd have matured and brought out something different by now, but no - same old stuff. I still love the early recordings though. I used to sing and play quite a few of them when I played on the Scottish folk scene, and somewhere I've got a copy of the songbook. If the original author of this message thread is genuine (I'm a bit dubious due to the awful spelling etc - is it a 9-year-old? or just a dyslexic? And with a 'traverse' email address - surely an Edinburgh connection?) I'll look it out and try to copy some. Which songs are you interested in?


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: John G
Date: 31 Oct 99 - 03:13 PM

What tab do need? I've been a big fan of Bert since I started playing and a have learned a fair few tunes since then. If the Traverse connection is Edinburgh then you must have seen him recently since he gigs in the city regularly!


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: John Wood
Date: 31 Oct 99 - 03:47 PM

Thanks for the link Joe.I hadn't got that one.
Geetings John


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: Doctor John
Date: 31 Oct 99 - 04:22 PM

Wee Ally. A little saying comes to mind "if you get it right, you can't get it righter". I guess Bert got it right all those years ago and that was it. Dr John


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: GeorgeH
Date: 01 Nov 99 - 01:27 PM

We heard him last year . . his playing is magnificent, still. Unfortunately his singing hasn't withstood the strain anywhere near so well.

BTW people might like to know that some of the Davy Graham stuff refered to in an earlier post has recently been re-released on CD by Topic.

G.


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From:
Date: 04 Nov 99 - 02:18 PM

thanks to all who replyed to my thread thanks for pointing out my spelling (bastard) edinburgh connection is correct for the sake of Wee Ally The Edinburgh connection is correct yes i am 9 years old

im intrested in all of his stuff old and new. especially a song called 'a travellers tune' or 'song'. it starts with the line

'sittin behind the front whip with my baby beside me too..............etc

i heard it on a video of john renbourns rare performances

any tab would be good


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 02:22 PM

Refresh.

Just nice to see some nice things about Bert. I would to thank him for starting so many of us off.


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 03:00 PM

There is a biography of Bert Jansch, by Colin Harper, called 'Dazzing Stranger' due to be published by Bloomsbury in June 2000.

Anyone interested in writing a biography of our Bert Hansell?


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: GUEST,Rana
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 05:17 PM

Hi,

Found this site which led to some useful sites including guitar tabs etc.

http://magellan.excite.com/entertainment/music/artists_a_z/j/jansch_bert

He is with the Stoney Port Agency, so you can get quite the bio there

Saw him with Pentagle years ago, and solo in Toronto about 5 years ago.

As it happens, for those near Toronto, we having John Renbourn at the Flying Cloud (at the TRANZAC) on Sunday April 30, The day after the Banjo CD release with Arnie Naiman and Chris Coole (see banjo thread)

Cheers Rana


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: GUEST,Frankie
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 10:13 PM

Bert did a very nice arrangement of Black Water Side in drop D that was tabbed in Acoustic Guitar magazine some years ago. They might be able to help you out at their website.
F


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: GUEST,Musselburgh Fair
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 10:46 PM

A L Ward was called Bert.

And he is another Bert that little is known about.

At least his song Musselburgh Fair is unknown.


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: GUEST,Lloyd not Ward
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 10:48 PM

Sorry for the slip.


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: Grab
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 09:26 AM

Appeared in Cambridge last month - if you do a search you should find the thread(s). Basically his guitar work is superb, but his singing voice is very gravelly - still OK for folk and blues though.

As for music, there don't seem to be that many tabs around for his. Maybe when guitarists get to the level where they can work out serious stuff, they hoard their transcriptions instead of posting them?

Grab.


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: Marymac90
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 11:21 AM

And I thought you were talking about our very OWN, most wonderful BERT, who, if he's not the guitar wizard the BJ is, is certainly the best damn sport in the world, and, in Max's own words, has titanium balls size 3X. If you doubt me, see Mudcat Radio, episode 32.

Marymac


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: GUEST,JohnT
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 11:50 AM

Bert still is a power in the land. I saw him twice in 2004 in London, at the Jazz Cafe Camden and the Queen Elizabeth Hall, and he gigs again regularly in many parts of the UK and Ireland. His playing is still superb and his singing voice is still compelling. He mixes new songs with the older ones that many people still need to hear. Most of all his presence is as relaxed, self-effacing and completely convincing on a personal level as it was when I first saw him in 1968. Most of his back catalogue is now available on CD. If you haven't heard his music before then get 'Dazzling Stranger' which is a 2CD compendium. His website at www.bertjansch.com is a good source of general info. His biography (also 'Dazzling Stranger') by Colin Harper is useful, but is a rather mixed effort based too much on back cuttings from the music press and doesn't do him justice. You'll find tabs for many of his songs on the web, but beware - most are wrong! Bert is extremely generous in including other musicians in his sets - but if only he would pass on his knowledge and style to the rest of us in some sort of recorded masterclass ...!


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: eleanor c
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 12:44 PM

I like BJ's stuff a lot & my excellent guitar teacher has worked out a couple of his songs for me, Soho, Blackwaterside, The First time Ever I saw your face , & I got his version of Anji off the web. I can play Soho and Anji (I skip the really tricky bit tho"!!! )well enough for public but not really the others yet.
Actually his recent albums are superb, try "Edge of a dream", he's not just lugging around early successes, the new songs are just as memorable and singable. Saw him in Rickmansworth last year, great gig.


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT
From: alanabit
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 01:24 PM

"Sweet Death" from that album, with Dave Swarbrick, is a song I am glad I did not miss. The previous album has a lovely version of Robin Williamson's "October Song", which I suspect will never be bettered.


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT (Jansch)
From: Arkie
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 04:19 PM

Emusic.com has several of Bert's recordings. There are several payment options for joining and one can get a fairly liberal number of free downloads to try out the site.

Or go here Bert Jansch for Jansch recordings. The cost will be 99 cents per download.

I assume both these sites have some means of paying performers. Perhaps someone else at Mudcat will have more information about that aspect.


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT (Jansch)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 08:07 PM

Back in the early 1960's a guitarist by the name of Colin came hitchiking his way through Ethiopia, ending up as they all did in Addis Ababa. Well, there was no way out to the south through Somalia at the time. So he stayed at our house, rented by a group of Peace Corps volunteers, and entertained us with Bert Jansch songs instead of starving to death or selling his body to the occasional tourist. That's where I first heard "I Have No Time to Spend with You" and "The Needle of Death." Colin lost an ear that New Year's eve after a party where he inhaled an excessive amount of marijuana, falling into a freshly dug cess pool while muttering "What holeeeeee!" We were all vastly amused and I still have flashbacks to the ambulance drive up and down the narrow streets to the Russian Hospitol. We provided him a ticket home in exchange for his guitar.

So now you know some more about the affect Bert Jansch had on some people.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT (Jansch)
From: Margret RoadKnight
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 08:36 PM

For Bert Jansch "completists" -

He accompanies me on "When Malindy Sings" on my "Moving Target>>>harder to hit" CD (recorded Melbourne, Australia, and released 2003)
Details at my website (easiest access anytime via Google)

Margret RoadKnight


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT (Jansch)
From: GUEST,Doug Henkle
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 10:38 AM

> Subject: BERT JANSCH
> From: Lost in Los Angeles
> Date: 29 Oct 99 - 08:08 PM
>
> Click here for some information that might interest you.
> -Joe Offer-

    My old index page for Bert Jansch referenced above,
   (http://www.execpc.com/~henkle/fbindex/j/jansch_bert.html)
moved on 7-04-2000 to,
   http://www.folklib.net/index/j/jansch_bert.shtml
________________________________________________
Doug Henkle - henkle@pobox.com
P.O. Box 1447, Oshkosh, WI 54903-1447


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Subject: RE: someone must know somthing about BERT (Jansch)
From: The Unicorn Man
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 11:25 AM

Does anyone want to know anything about Bert Tann??


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