'Fathom the Bowl' and Queen Alice

Subject: 'Fathom the Bowl' and Queen Alice
From:
Date: 27 Oct 99 - 06:35 PM

Hello---just surfing through and a friend suggested that I bring this up: search in the Mudcat archives for the song 'Fathom the Bowl' then get out your copy of Through the Looking Glass and go to the song at the end in the chapter "Queen Alice"---they match! Now you can sing along.

"Then fill up the glasses with treacle and ink
And anything else that is pleasant to drink
Mix sand with the cider and wool with the wine
And welcome Queen Alice with ninety times nine!"

This is one of several verses: sing them all next time you read aloud. This was on my brain for weeks---now maybe it'll be on yours.

Thanks Patrick

Subject: RE: BS: 'Fathom the Bowl' and Queen Alice
From: MMario
Date: 27 Oct 99 - 10:39 PM

thank YOU, Patrick!

MMario

Subject: RE: BS: 'Fathom the Bowl' and Queen Alice
From: Margo
Date: 28 Oct 99 - 12:08 AM

Yeah, thanks a lot. That's just what I need in my head. Actually m'dear, I have had Fathom the Bowl on my mind because I just learned it, and like it quite well. It's pretty funny. And I just read Alice in Wonderland & Alice through the looking glass just this year. Funny.

Thanks, Margo

Subject: RE: BS: 'Fathom the Bowl' and Queen Alice
From: Patrick
Date: 28 Oct 99 - 01:06 PM

Okay, so here's another one thats quite annoying and wonderful---"Eggs and Marrowbone" (the quicker version) can be the melody for 'The Walrus and the Carpenter'

I haven't looked this up yet---I know at least two different melodies to this song, one sprightly the other slower. The faster one seems to work, though. I would love to hear somebody sing this in concert. Maybe both these songs. If you do this, please send me a recording.

Anybody? Anybody?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Fathom the Bowl' and Queen Alice
From: MMario
Date: 28 Oct 99 - 01:13 PM

patrick, I'm gonna hafta kill ya, ya ken?

It'll probably drive me nuts now until I at least TRY these....and yes, if I sing them , I'll record and send in. *blasted twisted idjits!!!*

You wouldn't happen to know the tune to "the Widow and The Devil/aka The Widow's Promise?" would ye now?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Fathom the Bowl' and Queen Alice
From: Patrick
Date: 29 Oct 99 - 01:51 AM

the only Devil/Wife type song I know is from a very ancient Richard Dyer Bennet record I played when I was a little kid about the time I started doing Faires (back when our Faire was the only one in the world and we were all very special who were privileged to go and hear all the blacklisted singers sing, nearly forty years ago)---'The Divell and the Farmer's Wife'...I'll have to find the record now.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Fathom the Bowl' and Queen Alice
From: radriano
Date: 29 Oct 99 - 12:17 PM

There's a recording of "The Widow and the Devil" on the first album of an English group called The Crows.

I'll look up the reference at home tonight and post it Monday morning.

Regards,
radriano

Subject: RE: 'Fathom the Bowl' and Devilish Songs
From: the archivist
Date: 29 Oct 99 - 02:28 PM

Earlier thread: Flowing Bowl (not quite Fathom the Bowl)
Earlier thread: widow and the devil
DT - KELLYBURNBRAES (Devil and the Farmer's Wife, Child #278 )
DT-THE DEVIL AND THE FARMER'S WIFE
Child #278 listings

Subject: RE: BS: 'Fathom the Bowl' and Queen Alice
From: MMario
Date: 29 Oct 99 - 02:45 PM

Mille grazie. Not what I'm looking for, but interesting, anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Fathom the Bowl' and Queen Alice
From: Robinc
Date: 30 Oct 99 - 01:44 AM

We sing it woth a couple more verses.

My husband does disturb me when I'm laid to my rest.
He does what he does, but he does it not best.
My husband's a laggard in body and soul.
Give me the punch ladle I'll fathom the bowl.

My lover does disturb me when I'm laid to my rest.
He does what he does, and he does it the best.
My lover's a stallion, a joy to behold.
Give me the punch ladle, I'll fathom the bowl.

I think there may be one or two others.

Robin