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Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts

GUEST 21 Oct 12 - 04:10 PM
GUEST,Blandiver 21 Oct 12 - 04:31 PM
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Subject: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 04:10 PM

Incredible to see a folk album in the UK Top 20. A great day for folk music.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 04:31 PM

A great day for Bellowhead anyway.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,davemc
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 07:20 PM

They're charging less than a fiver for it on the main sites. Something of a loss leader?


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Oct 12 - 08:11 PM

Where? I can't find CDs for a fiver anywhere?
It's a tenner on Amazon though they are selling the MP3 download album for £5. Hardly a loss leader so an MP3 album has no manufacturing costs!


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,Kampervan cookie gone
Date: 22 Oct 12 - 02:13 AM

I think that it's great news, for folk and for Bellowhead.

We can probably look forward to more representatives of the genre making it into the charts too, folk is rapidly becoming 'mainstream' .....again.

However, being the realist that I am,this has happened before and I expect that it is a temporary phenomenon. So lets make the most of it; let's hope that some performers can benefit; let's raise our profile and get some more bums on seats in folk clubs.

But accept that in a year or two it will be back to the diehards to keep it all going until our next brush with popular awareness!

Enjoy!


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 23 Oct 12 - 03:28 PM

A great day for Bellowhead anyway.

Been troubling over this least it be taken the wrong way. What I mean is that Bellowhead are, hopefully, an autonomous bunch of noble musical adventurers whose expedition chartwise in no way expands the frontiers of folk, much less will have converts from the real world offering themselves up as virginal audience fodder in your local folk club.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: PercyBysshe
Date: 23 Oct 12 - 05:43 PM

Really chuffed for them - such a great achievement, and the album is fantastic!


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 23 Oct 12 - 06:56 PM

played on radio 2 this morning! three cheers for Chris Evans


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: theleveller
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 03:07 AM

Great stuff - haven't actually heard it yet. Show of Hands have a new album out which I haven't heard, either. Must try to keep up!


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 04:23 AM

In fact it was played twice, back-to-back, by Chris Evans who said it was the best new song they are playing on Radio 2 at the moment!


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,michael gill
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 04:54 AM

You have to remember that you can get to number 1 in the UK charts now with as few sales as 10,000. Long gone are the days when number one meant at least a million.

I'd say it's more likely that the likes of Bellowhead are selling as few albums as that genre always has. It's just that pop sales have gone through the floor


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,Kampervan cookie gone
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 04:55 AM

Show of Hands are in the album chart at No73!.

Not quite as good as Bellowhead, but it's a presence.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,michael gill
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 05:44 AM

I'd like to see how many albums you had to sell to get to No73 forty years ago compared to now.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 06:04 AM

Physical album sales are down generally, Michael. But No 16 in the charts means that this is the 16th best selling album this week, regardless of what might have been happening 40 years ago. I think most working musicians do accept that what is happening now, rather than in some semi-mythical golden age, is the reality they are working with. The chart postion is brilliant for Bellowhead - it gives them increased exposure and radio play, which I'm sure they won't be upset about. I doubt they're thinking, "Bah! This succes we're having is shit because things were so much better in the 1970s."

I'm less convinced by the argument that 'this is good for folk music'. It suggests folk music is a homogenous mass with Bellowhead at the vanguard, which simple isn't the case. Not to begrudge them their success, of course.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: theleveller
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 06:15 AM

I'm not really bothered whether it's good for folk or not (after all folk is dead, isn't it ;)), they're a great band and they've worked hard to get this success.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,michael gill
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 06:43 AM

One thing you can say for bellowhead, like 'em or not, is good on them for being loads of 'em. If they were at all interested in dosh there wouldn't be half as many


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: Johnny J
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 06:49 AM

"Good for folk", "Played on Radio Two"

I recall bands like Fairport Convention, Steeleye Span, Ralph McTell and many more all in the album charts over the year.

Much of this music was regularly featured on Radio One let alone radio Two. However, Terry Wogan used to play De Danann fairly regularly, as I recall.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: Johnny J
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 06:56 AM

OOps "Over the yearS", I meant to say. It wasn't yesterday.
:-)


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 07:17 AM

(after all folk is dead, isn't it ;))

The day Folk dies as a prescripitive quasi-religious revival movement replete with righteous fundamentalist / isolationist / puritanical cultural & racial issues will be a day worth celebrating*.

As an empirical musical idiom, however, Folk is a vibrant aspect of the big reality of 21st culture & intersects with popular / classical & experimental musics in all sorts of amazing ways, much as it's always done I suppose.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 07:28 AM

* Part of me will be sad to see it go, to wjatch it gradually melting away like the polar ice caps into the universal ocean of sound. Now that's what I call the folk process!


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,The Awkward Recruit
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 07:30 AM

Bellowhead sold over 70,000 copies of their last album, and it didn't get into the top 30. Don't know how many they've sold so far of the new one, but would think it must be more than the 10,000 as suggested above.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,michael gill
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 07:36 AM

duh, 10,000 in one week to chart at No1.

The figure to get in the chart at No16 is the figure they sold that week. Total sales to date are irrelevant.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: johncharles
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 07:55 AM

If you consider that the words may be important to folks song
then there is a bit of a problem according to the BBC review
"But the stories can also, sadly, get lost in the volume. This happens literally in The Wife of Usher's Well, where the ever-blaring horn section smothers the voices completely."
john


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: ian268
Date: 25 Oct 12 - 04:05 AM

Not really that familiar with Bellowhead's work. What would be their best album to buy to start off with ? I heard a couple of tracks from the new album on Mike Harding's show a couple of weeks ago. They were ok but I got the feeling they would probably be a fantastic live band with all that stuff going. Still, what is their best album so far ???


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: Will Fly
Date: 25 Oct 12 - 06:09 AM

I loved the first Bellowhead recordings - particularly their "E.P.Onymous" record and "Burlesque" - but felt less enthusiastic after buying "Matachin" and even less with "Burlesque". They're a great band, and seeing them live was a splendid experience, but I think I've now got slightly tired of the way in which the arrangements are done - slightly overblown, IMO.

I've heard bits of the new album on Spotify. Can't say I rushed to buy it, but I'll have another listen.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: Will Fly
Date: 25 Oct 12 - 06:10 AM

Apologies for substituting "Burlesque" for what should have been " and even less with Hedonism" in the post above. Just old age...


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 25 Oct 12 - 01:30 PM

My opinion of Bellowhead's output mirrors Will's (above). They now appear to be working 'to a formula' which will give a lot of material for their excellent live performances but which is becoming a little 'tired' on CD listening. I have only listened to the most recent album in the car and put down my inability to discern lyrics clearly to road noise. I'll try again in quieter surroundings.

I think Bellowhead will need to reinvent themselves and produce something a little different next time.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,punfolkrocker
Date: 25 Oct 12 - 02:00 PM

"I think Bellowhead will need to reinvent themselves and produce something a little different next time."

- time to subdue the brass and get electric guitars and fuzz boxes !!!???

maybe a joint Album project with The Black Keys..???

I'd listen to that...


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 25 Oct 12 - 03:04 PM

Kate Rusby has just put on Facebook that her great new album '20' is at number 15 in the mid- week charts ...


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST,jonesnudger
Date: 25 Oct 12 - 04:13 PM

Bellowhead and Chris Evans mentioned in the same thread. That's about right.


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Subject: RE: Bellowhead No.16 in UK Album Charts
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Oct 12 - 02:42 PM

Punkfolkrocker - there are electric guitars and fuzzboxes on a couple of tracks on Broadside.

As to where to start - I'm a big fan of the band and my favorites in order are Broadside, Hedonism, Burlesque, EPOnymous, Matachin.
There are some great tracks on Matachin - Fakenham Fair is one of my all time favorite songs of theirs - but you can tell they didn't have a producer!


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