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Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3

barefootboy 28 Oct 12 - 08:57 PM
Dave Ruch 29 Oct 12 - 09:22 AM
Mr Red 29 Oct 12 - 11:36 AM
barefootboy 29 Oct 12 - 02:49 PM
GUEST,Nathan 29 Oct 12 - 04:33 PM
barefootboy 29 Oct 12 - 05:02 PM
GUEST,Nathan 30 Oct 12 - 10:09 AM
Dave Ruch 30 Oct 12 - 11:52 AM
barefootboy 31 Oct 12 - 12:48 PM
GUEST,sciencegeek 31 Oct 12 - 01:05 PM
MMario 31 Oct 12 - 02:19 PM
GUEST,Nathan 31 Oct 12 - 08:57 PM
Dave Ruch 01 Nov 12 - 12:18 PM
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Subject: Music of Erie Canal Celebration Nov. 2-3
From: barefootboy
Date: 28 Oct 12 - 08:57 PM

This should be of interest not only to folk music enthusiasts and fans, but also teachers, librarians, folklorists, canal lovers, as well as historians and history lovers.

A "Music of the Erie Canal Celebration", co-sponsored by the Erie Canal Museum and the NY Folklore Society, will take place at the museum in Syracuse, NY this coming Friday and Saturday, Nov. 2 & 3. There will be concerts, workshops, discussions, and a special AIE Professional Development Session during the day on Friday.

Folksingers, folklorists, and other authorities from throughout NY State and beyond will be participating, including George Ward, William Hullfish (and his Golden Eagle String Band), Jim Kimball, Dave Ruch, Chris Holder, Aaron Walker, Ted McGraw, Nils Caspersson, and myself, among others. All daytime activities are free and open to the public. For more info and details, visit www.nyfolklore.org.


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: Dave Ruch
Date: 29 Oct 12 - 09:22 AM

Really looking forward to this!


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Oct 12 - 11:36 AM

As it happens I am looking for canal tunes. Not songs.
If you would like to point me in the direction, I am sure there will be some during your "meet".
I am principally looking for mp3 or CD. I have many songs and can find many more.
This is to put behind videos of canal restoration. see this thread.
TIA


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: barefootboy
Date: 29 Oct 12 - 02:49 PM

Where are you located, Mr. Red?

In addition to songs, there will also be a workshop with Nils Caspersson and Ted McGraw that will cover instrumental and dance music from along the canal. Also, Jim Kimball will be attending the celebration, and he is considered the "master" of dance tunes in New York State!

If at all possible, I'd strongly encourage you to attend. It should be great fun, as well as very informative and inspirational.

Rich


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: GUEST,Nathan
Date: 29 Oct 12 - 04:33 PM

I'm definitely going to try and make it at least one day if not both.I'm a half hour away in Auburn.

Checked the website and indeed does look great!

Thanks for the heads up.


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: barefootboy
Date: 29 Oct 12 - 05:02 PM

Hi Nathan,

Glad to hear you're going to come up for a day. FYI, during the day on Friday there will be a "Professional Development Session", for school teachers, with the actual public celebration starting at 7pm with a 45 minute panel discussion on the "Low Bridge, Everybody Down" song. Then, at 8pm, there will be a "Sampler" concert with most of the folk musicians doing a few songs each. Admission for the concert is $10.

If you are going to come for 1 day, I'd suggest you come on Saturday, when there will be workshops and panel discussions continuously from 9am to 5pm (all FREE!), then after a break for dinner, there will be a concert by Bill Hullfish and his Golden Eagle String Band at 7:30pm (Admission is $10 for the concert).

Looking forward to meeting you on whichever day you choose. See ya soon!

Rich


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: GUEST,Nathan
Date: 30 Oct 12 - 10:09 AM

Yeah sounds great! I'm happy to say that I have Saturday off from work so I'll be there ALL day. Are you apart of the NY Folklore Society? I never even knew there was one, but it looks really interesting. I'm brand new to the "folk scene", but from what it looks like Upstate NY (and NY as a whole) has a thriving bluegrass / traditional music scene and a lot of folklore steeped within. I'm young and it's definitely something I'd like to be apart of.

Definitely looking forward to meeting you!

Nathan Mercado.


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: Dave Ruch
Date: 30 Oct 12 - 11:52 AM

Nathan,

Make sure you introduce yourself! Both barefootboy (Rich Bala) and myself will be there performing and participating along with a host of others.

Mr Red,

it appears from your thread that you are looking for UK canal tunes; can't help you so much with that.

As far as "canal tunes" from our Erie Canal here in New York State, about the closest we can get (so far) is a list of tunes that were commonly played by traditional fiddlers and dance musicians during the canal's heyday (see below). Sure, there are a few melodies/tunes that were composed in the 19th century with the word "canal" in the title, but that doesn't really tell us if anybody used them. We don't have any fiddle or other manuscripts that are directly tied to the canal (at least that I'm aware of), and for the most part what was being played were the popular tunes of the day - both lyric songs turned into instrumentals, and old-time dance tunes.

OLD-TIME FIDDLE TUNES COMMONLY PLAYED BY UPSTATE NEW YORK TRADITIONAL FIDDLERS

Earliest Times (late 18th/early 19th century)

Campbells Are Coming (aka Hob and Nob)
College Hornpipe (aka Sailors Hornpipe)
Devils Dream
Durangs Hornpipe
Fishers Hornpipe
Flowers of Edinburgh
Garry Owen
Haste To The Wedding
Irish Washerwoman
Miss McLeods Reel
Money Musk
My Love is But a Lassie Yet
Off She Goes
Opera Reel
Rakes of Mallow
Ricketts Hornpipe
Road To Boston
Smash The Windows
Soldiers Joy
The Fairy Dance
The Girl I Left Behind Me
White Cockade



Mid 19th century – Early 20th century

All of the above, plus…

Arkansas Traveller
Blackberry Quadrille
Buffalo Gals
Bummers Reel
Captain Jinks
Chicken Reel
Climbing Up the Golden Stairs
Darlin' Nellie Gray
Flop Eared Mule (Detroit Schottische)
Golden Slippers
Jenny Lind Polka
Kingdom Coming (The Year of Jubilo)
Larry O'Gaff
Life on the Ocean Wave (aka First Two Ladies Cross Over)
Listen to the Mockingbird
Little Brown Jug
Little Old Log Cabin in the Lane
Lord McDonald's Reel (Leather Britches)
Marching Through Georgia
Mississippi Sawyer
Oh Susanna
Old Dan Tucker
Over The Waves
Peekaboo Waltz
Pigtown Fling (aka Buffalo Breakdown, Stoney Point, etc)
Pop Goes the Weasel
Portland Fancy
Red Haired Boy
Red River Valley
Red Wing
Rochester Schottische
Rustic Reel
Speed The Plow
Tempest
Turkey in the Straw (aka Old Zip Coon)
Whistling Rufus
Wilsons Clog


1930's – forward

All of the above, plus…

Chinese Breakdown
Crooked Stovepipe
Doc Boyd's Jig
Faded Love
Joys of Quebec
Liberty Two-Step
Little Burnt Potatoes
Maple Sugar
Orange Blossom Special
Ragtime Annie
Silver and Gold
Silver Bell
St Anne's Reel
Tennessee Waltz
Wabash Cannonball
Westphalia Waltz
Wreck of the Old 97


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: barefootboy
Date: 31 Oct 12 - 12:48 PM

Hi Nathan,

I am part of the NY Folklore Society only as a dues paying member, and also as a particpant in this "conference". I would encourage you to become a member as there are many benefits, not the least of which is their very informative journal, which is a magazine that comes out a few times a year with very well-written articles about all kinds of folk music and folklore of NYS.

As Dave said, please be sure to introduce yourself to us at the event this weekend. We will be there all weekend, including all day Saturday, and we will be involved in many of the workshops planned that day.

Looking forward to meeting you on Saturday!
Rich Bala


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: GUEST,sciencegeek
Date: 31 Oct 12 - 01:05 PM

it's a couple of hours away for us... I hope to make it.


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: MMario
Date: 31 Oct 12 - 02:19 PM

Some friends of mine are on the panel for a discussion of Erie Canal cooks...

I'd love to go but am in rehearsal for Christmas both days.


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: GUEST,Nathan
Date: 31 Oct 12 - 08:57 PM

I definitely will look into becoming a member. Looks like a great introduction.

Yeah! Definitely looking forward to meeting both of you and attending the conference!

Thanks,

Nate


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: Dave Ruch
Date: 01 Nov 12 - 12:18 PM

Starts tomorrow!


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: Mr Red
Date: 01 Nov 12 - 01:07 PM

Any canal tunes will do.
Tune rather than songs. I have various versions of "le Canal en Octobre" for instance and that is about a French canal. & permission from Frederick Paris to use it.

Various folkies here in the UK are composing tunes - though this takes time. Inspiration can be nurtured but not forced.

Song tunes are not as interesting unless played as instrumentals.

But any suggestions would be useful and I can research from there.

TIA


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Subject: RE: Music of Erie Canal Conference Nov. 2-3
From: georgeward
Date: 01 Nov 12 - 04:15 PM

If you want a very short bit of a tune played by a real old-time canaller (on a button box), you can hear Evamay Wilkins - as recorded by Craig Williams - play an intro to her own canal story here:

http://eriecanalway.org/v2/videogallery/canal-stories/

The site is behaving badly this afternoon, but doesn't always. And "Sitting on the Potty" is a classic, funny bootlegging tale. If you're at all interested in New York State's canals, you need to know this site anyway.

For those of you from far away, the NYS canal system is more than the Erie Canal, and always has been. The Hudson-Champlain Canal, on which Evamay grew up, was completed two years prior to the Erie. The two canals connect at Waterford, NY.


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