BS: Winter is here

Subject: BS: Winter is here
From: pdq
Date: 09 Nov 12 - 06:41 PM

Well, it has been in the 70s for weeks, but it was 32 degrees F a few minutes ago, about 3:30 in the afternoon, Pacific time. Light snow.

It's heading east so Colorado will be receiving their first snows soon.

Too cold to work outside, at least that's my excuse.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Nov 12 - 06:46 PM

We received our first snow a couple weeks ago. Where have you guys been?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: pdq
Date: 09 Nov 12 - 06:56 PM

Raking leaves.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: gnu
Date: 09 Nov 12 - 07:08 PM

Well, I have been here. Cool for the next two days and then 12C with sun and no wind for a few days.

No thunderstorms of note all summer. No hurricanes. I haven't been up country so I cannot predict our winter for the upcoming seasons. But, I'll take a stab from my limited obsevations of the sky here in the city (hard to read the sky when the city lights are in yer face) and my reading of the moon phases and the bird migrations so far... fucked if I know.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 09 Nov 12 - 09:48 PM

We had snow on Wednesday in RI. Yesterday was gloomy. Today was gloriously sunny though still cold and windy.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: gnu
Date: 09 Nov 12 - 10:33 PM

Gee... snow and stuff all over youse... youse should move north to New Bruswick... until Christmas er so. Then, I would say ya wanna head home.

On a similar note, earlier today, I took some linen and (old, "fat") clothes to the lady here that started a collection for our southern neighbours, many displaced. She got a LOT of stuff over the past days but had no way to get it there. In steps a local SMALL trucking company and these donations are on the way. Warms my heart to see her and her likes step up to do what they can to help others.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Janie
Date: 10 Nov 12 - 12:33 AM

You've got me thinking about what defines winter, PDQ.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Nov 12 - 02:31 AM

OH NO!!..It's global cooling!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: bobad
Date: 10 Nov 12 - 07:28 AM

Uh, no...........hemispheric cooling.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 10 Nov 12 - 07:50 AM

I wonder if you can clear your drive of loose snow with one of those things for blowing dry leaves.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: pdq
Date: 10 Nov 12 - 08:02 AM

Winter starts when you need to put fresh anti-freeze in yer car so it don't freeze-up.

Summer starts when you can turn off the heater's thermostat and not feel cold at night.

That's how I look at it.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 10 Nov 12 - 01:16 PM

After having had a soggy miserable summer in the UK the only noticable thing has been the clocks going back. Rain, rain and more rain just darker.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: gnu
Date: 10 Nov 12 - 01:32 PM

BAl... "I wonder if you can clear your drive of loose snow with one of those things for blowing dry leaves."

Yes, you can if you have a gas blower. And a length of fuse.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: mg
Date: 10 Nov 12 - 11:18 PM

Very cold here.. 20s last night..unusual for this early in season. starry nights though. Reminds me I need boots with good tread.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: ragdall
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 03:52 AM

Winter will not begin until the third week of December. We in the Great White North just happen to have very cold, white Autumns.

It was just above zero F here last night.
+1°F (-17°C) is predicted tonight, warming to 21°F (-6°C), with snow, on Sunday afternoon.

This evening I dug out the two electric cables for plugging in our car block heaters and strung them along under the carport ceiling, ready for use.   

rags

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: gnu
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 06:28 PM

rags... you may well be right for all of NA. I am thinking that we will have two more warm spells before freezeup here. Just a hunch... and over 40 years of being here and watching the weather. 51/49 odds, I figure.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 07:26 PM

Down to -20C in Calgary last night. About 0 F.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Janie
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 10:41 PM

For the third year in a row, it is mid November and we still haven't had a killing frost. The USDA revision of climate zones (last year?) moved us from zone 7a to 7b, but for at least the past ten years, have been able to grow zone 8 plants reliably, and a few zone 9 plants with sufficient mulch and winter protection.

Roses are still blooming. We have had some chilly days and nights, but the leaves are still on my hydrangeas, the ferns are still green, my white, fragrant ginger lily which bloomed the first time this year is still blooming, I am still grazing on the occasional vine ripe cherry tomato, and even managed to harvest enough basil today to make pesto. Not to suggest the plants are thriving and that I did not have to pick over the leaves significantly. Also spent a good part of the day blowing and raking leaves (will be at that chore until mid January, regardless of weather.) My yard is quite "weedy." Still have errant white clover, wild asters and hawkweed blooming. Used to be my sense of winter began well before the winter soltice. In the process of redefining what constitutes winter for me in my own particular habitat.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 01:38 PM

Thought I'd missed my window of opportunity to finish flower garden chores. We had the first frost on the windshield, then next day snow last week. Snow melted pretty much before the end of that day.

Today I have a bit of tidying of the holding bed to do.

I'd brought a small chive plant into the house to winter over, but Rufus decided it was not only delicious but a great toy. So I set it out on the deck so I'd tip it into the holding bed when I could. Then the soil in the pot didn't exactly freeze, but it stiffened considerably. Brought it back inside temporarily to thaw out.

Today is in the 60s (F) so I'll get it safely into the holding bed. There's contents of another pot to be gotten into the holding bed, too, and some seeds to be scattered out back.

It's supposed to get progressively cooler as the week goes on.

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: gnu
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 04:52 PM

19 here today. Had to don a t-shirt and a mesh peaked hat. The crows are massing and create a racket early AM and PM. The crow knows.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 01:09 PM

Birdwatchers have descended on our village in Norfolk UK to see a Great White Egret. The poor thing is way out of its region and it's too cold for it. I saw it as it flew over our house. Maybe it will be able to get some fish from the many lakes around here. I looked it up just now on the Birding Update site. In huge red letters were the words '105 SHAGS IN NORTH NORFOLK!' ........!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Feb 16 - 01:36 PM

Active threads about storms we do have, but an active thread for winter in between the storms? Makes as much sense to pick up an older thread about winter.

The frigid bitter cold comes to southern New England today. The sky is brilliant cloudless blue, the dry withering freezing cold kind of blue sky. Very pretty to look at through the window, inside a warm dry room. Going out in it, though? The radio weatherman actually said, Bring your pet animals inside, it's too cold for them to spend the night out there. Don't hear THAT on the radio every day.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Feb 16 - 03:22 PM

It was down to about 5F last night here in suburban MD... the local weather shows said similar things about animals.
(So far, none of them have admonished us to "Bring in your brass monkeys".)

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: GUEST,Lin
Date: 13 Feb 16 - 09:16 PM

Temperatures have been in the high 80's & low 90's this past week (in Southern, California) TOO HOT FOR ME AND THIS IS ONLY FEB.
So uncomfortable & still too warm at night to sleep very well.
Have to run AC in the car during the day while driving & in the house too! Maybe some people would like this weather but geez, I can't stand it and this is only mid-Feb. Temps have been breaking all records for this time of year here. Should only be about 66 or 68 degrees at this time of year sO 0 t ssi timess 8 de

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: GUEST,Lin
Date: 13 Feb 16 - 09:35 PM

Oops, previous message got messed up at the end sentence. My hand accidently hit some keys and got sent.
So, just in ending wanted to say that the temperatures here are 20 + over what is normal for this time of year.
93 degrees is just way too hot and very uncomfortable!!!
Having to run your AC in the car & house is terrible but can't stand the heat otherwise!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Feb 16 - 10:52 PM

I was on the Gulf coast of Florida most of this week, and it was chilly - 10 degrees cooler than the temps at home in the Northern California Sierra Foothills. Now I'm home, and the temperatures are still nice.

We've had snow twice so far this year, and we're hoping for more. Some years, we have no snow, and we had snow five times one season. And one year, we had our last snowfall on May 15. I'm hoping for a good snow year this year, but it's nice to see some flowers in bloom already.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Feb 16 - 11:15 PM

It was in the 70s here in North Texas today. I fear another odd year if we don't have some winter this year. It's hard on the vegetable garden, for various reasons.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Feb 16 - 03:27 PM

It's a roller-coaster. Sub-freezing for the next 24 hours. Then a new weather system cranks in and we get a sudden thaw, and a rainstorm. Temperatures increase to well above freezing. Gotta be ready for anything hereabouts.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: gnu
Date: 14 Feb 16 - 04:04 PM

Maine (Linn) is at -11F. I (NB.ca) am at -18C but the windchill is nasty. -32WC. I had to go out to get a turnip for a stew. Proper planning prevents piss poor performance but I didn't think of that yesterday. Come Tuesday... 10C and rain. I'll take rain, even if it will make a slippery mess, over snow.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: gnu
Date: 14 Feb 16 - 04:06 PM

BTW, I heard Blue Jays today singing that spring song. I suppose it's one way to generate some heat in this cold weather. >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: gnu
Date: 14 Feb 16 - 04:19 PM

Did I say messy? This just in...

4:06 PM AST Sunday 14 February 2016
Special weather statement in effect for:

Moncton and Southeast New Brunswick
A low pressure system will develop over the southern United States and reach New England Tuesday. This system will likely affect the Maritimes on Tuesday and Wednesday with a good possibility of some snow at first and then significant amounts of rain. Freezing rain is also quite possible especially over northern New Brunswick. These bursts of precipitation will be accompanied by rapid warming associated with a warm front driven by strong southerly winds.

Old Man Winter must have that there Old Timer's eh?

I don't mind it but the people that depend on part of their living making Maple Slurpup must be shaking in their mukluks!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: bubblyrat
Date: 15 Feb 16 - 06:05 AM

Here in England, on Dartmoor National Park, the weather has been ATROCIOUS ! We moved into our new (but old !) house on September 30th, and since then it has rained EVERY DAY up until today , which is frosty and SUNNY ! However, last Saturday we were flooded out by a torrent of muddy water , and had to rely on neighbours who came round with mops,buckets,old newspapers,pumps , teenaged children,etc.etc. to bail us out.Luckily ,there is a good community spirit here in Devonshire,where the only sound is often the clippety-clop of horses' hooves ; no "bikers", no aircraft overhead,very few cars, no motorways nearby, just peace and quiet and smoke curling lazily from the chimneys of every house, all of which have names and not numbers .Magic !!

Subject: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 15 Feb 16 - 02:34 PM

And now comes winter storm Olympia...

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 15 Feb 16 - 08:38 PM

We got more snow this afternoon continuing into this evening. It's supposed to switch to rain tonight. When I parked my car, I forgot to raise the windshield wipers into the snow salute. If we don't have rain by bedtime, I'll go out and raise them.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Feb 16 - 02:06 AM

Here in southeastern Alaska - roughly level with Scotland (latitude 58) - our temperatures have been in the mid40sF for weeks, dipping at night into the upper 30s. Sweater/sweatshirt weather. Tonight is forecast to be colder; we could get a frost tonight. Usually at this time of the year our ground is rock hard- it hasn't frozen this winter.

'Tis passing weird.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 Feb 16 - 12:49 PM

Gnu called it. Rapid warming and strong southerly winds. Now comes an April thaw in mid February. Flooding could make some roads impassable.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: gnu
Date: 16 Feb 16 - 02:32 PM

Yup. -32C wind chill yesterday and 10C right now. Got all my windows open. Gotta love The Merrytimes.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: gnu
Date: 16 Feb 16 - 02:45 PM

Oops... Maritime Canada. And, *my* thermo meter shows 13C. We must be gonna get smacked like last year. NO snow on the ground on 01.28. A whole winter of snow within 6 weeks of that. At least two storms per week of a foot or more.

With the rain tonight adding to the snowmelt, keberoxu is right... there will be flooding. I am on high(er) ground but I have relatives and friends who may have a rough time tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: michaelr
Date: 16 Feb 16 - 03:25 PM

Summer is here. Shit, it was 88 yesterday. Unheard of for NorCal in February.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 17 Feb 16 - 12:33 PM

Watch out for that false sense of security, here....above freezing temps, clear skies, calm breezes, and much of the snow and ice melted. Winter isn't over yet, just giving us a chance to breathe before we get snowed on again.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Ed T
Date: 17 Feb 16 - 12:39 PM

My lawn is clear of snow, and "greening up". I see some crocus shoots edging up. The last two days were unseasonably warm.

Maybe the groundpig was right, predicting an early spring. But, more winter surprises coulx evolve over the next couple of weeks?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Feb 16 - 12:41 PM

The rhodie at my door will be blooming soon- the buds are swollen.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Rumncoke
Date: 18 Feb 16 - 11:49 AM

It is not raining today - for a change.

The Christmas tree (picea glauca conica) is looking very sad. I'm not sure if it had drowned with all the rain or starved to death as the rain washed all the nutrients from the soil in its pot. I brought it inside the conservatory for its own protection and it is still clinging to life by the twig tips.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 20 Feb 16 - 11:35 AM

The weather in Missouri is absolutely lovely, but I wish it weren't. It's not supposed to be 70 in February.

bubblyrat, you have my sympathy because of the flooding. Let's hope it doesn't happen again. Devon sounds delightful.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Feb 16 - 12:24 PM

Rumncoke,

Pull the soil off of the base of the tree - even though it is in a pot, it may be too deep. Clear the soil away until you can see the root flare - or the trunk flare - that part is supposed to be exposed, but lots of nurseries add extra dirt to pots before they sell plants. You'll be surprised how much that one move can make a tree happier.

We have a chance of showers for a few days (it hasn't rained much this month) and supposedly winter temperatures will return next week, but the forecast doesn't show any nights at or below freezing and highs in the 60s aren't typical February temperatures.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Mar 16 - 01:07 PM

It's only the first of March. Winter isn't over yet. Probably packing another sucker punch even as we speak. I just got my car inspected during the oil change, to make sure that at least the car wouldn't surprise me.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: gnu
Date: 02 Mar 16 - 10:17 AM

Going up to 9C with rain and moderate wind today. 200km north of me it's 25-35cm of snow. Thank goodness it's stayed cold enough for the World Pond Hockey Championship in Plaster Rock, NB.ca

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/world-pond-hockey-championships-attracts-the-great-and-small/

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: olddude
Date: 02 Mar 16 - 11:57 AM

Spring sprung and fall fell, winter is here and it's colder than

Usual

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Charmion
Date: 03 Mar 16 - 07:54 AM

Minus 29 Celsius right now in Ottawa, with a forecast high of minus 9, but the crystal-gazers at Environment Canada are backing an early thaw -- they say this might be the last of the cold weather for this winter. It snowed all day yesterday. I'm not putting the mukluks away quite yet.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Mar 16 - 02:58 PM

Now the forecasts are talking of early May temperatures next week, and it is only early March.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 04 Mar 16 - 10:55 PM

We had snow flurries today but not enough to interfere with plans.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: ragdall
Date: 05 Mar 16 - 07:31 AM

Over here on the left side of Canada it was +12 C today.   Crocus are blooming. Tulips are up but no flower buds in sight yet. Bluebirds have been arriving from the south. Wet snow is predicted for Wednesday, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 11 Mar 16 - 02:50 PM

Miraculously, no flooding here, in spite of the general melting. The marshlands and backwaters no longer have ice over them, which took forever to thaw. And that species of frog that starts peeping in the "mud season" is out in the open air, peeping at the top of its little lungs.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Charmion
Date: 11 Mar 16 - 05:07 PM

High of 7 Celsius today in Ottawa, and I'm putting the mukluks away. Not the light-weight Italian sort-of-fashionable boots, though; I've seen snow on the apple blossom more than once in this town.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Mar 16 - 12:02 PM

Well, it's 72F here at the moment (0703) and the sky is clear. A bit of wind, but not too much. There is a high surf alert, so I won't be taking my longboard out.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Jeri
Date: 12 Mar 16 - 01:09 PM

I'm wondering how long I should wait before getting the lawn mower out and ready to go.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 12 Mar 16 - 09:34 PM

The people who plow the condo lot removed the stakes they had set out for the winter. I hope they know what they're doing!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Dec 16 - 04:17 PM

"Meteorological winter," for some reason, that's what the network broadcasts say on the first of December. If it doesn't feel like winter today, then it will do soon enough.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 02:30 AM

Here in Juneau, Alaska, we had a bit of snow mid-October and even less in November. The temperatures have ranged from low 30s to mid40s.

And now we finally have a warning that late this week we're getting really cold weather, forecasting 7 F for a high and zeroF for lows. It will allegedly hit us this Sunday. I'm flying out of here on Monday just in time to beat the cold weather to my destination. Might have lots of snow by the time I return.

I hope so. A really snowy winter would be nice- hasn't happened in a number of years. The last one I remember vividly was 2006.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 07:11 AM

My husband is dancing for joy because he heard they're giving short odds on us having a White Christmas. I've just beaten him over the head with a stout cudgel.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 03:35 PM

Be careful for what you wish, Ebbie....

Here in southeastern New England, it is
The Last Hurrah Of Those Pesky Little Moths.

You know the moths I mean...it hasn't been cold enough to, erm, dissuade them. So the moths are clustered around the doors to my apartment building. They are up against the glass panes, morning and night, and fluttering about in the parking lot. It's their last hurrah, or their last gasp, or something.

ChantyLass is right, the warmth so late in the year is unusual, and it has kept the moths going....but not for long.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Raggytash
Date: 03 Dec 16 - 01:44 PM

When we arrived in our spot on the Connemara, County Galway on the 16th November there was snow on the tops of the Twelve Bens mountain range. Stunningly beautiful viewed from a warm car in the glens!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Dec 16 - 06:55 PM

That wind is back. grrrrrrrrrr.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: JennieG
Date: 04 Dec 16 - 12:19 AM

Meanwhile, we are on Day Three of a five day heatwave.

Dunno about moths, but last night we were overrun by little black bugs......

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 04 Dec 16 - 04:00 AM

Are you in Australia Jennie? And what temperature is it at the moment? (I'm just looking up flights and getting my suitcase packed! :) )

I absolutely hate the winter, and I hate it more as the years go by. I'm definitely a hot weather kind of person.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: JennieG
Date: 04 Dec 16 - 05:52 AM

Yes, Eliza......in Tamworth, which is in north-western New South Wales. Temperature right now as we speak, 9.30 P.M. Sunday night, is 28 deg C, the "feels like" is 25 deg C.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: skarpi
Date: 04 Dec 16 - 09:12 AM

at one place in Iceland at 4 :30 there was 16+ in December and 8+ around the country , and our Glaciers are melding fast ...

this is so wrong , here should be winter with snow and frost .

now we have like springtime ...

who is playing with the weather system´s ...urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 04 Dec 16 - 09:31 AM

Oh Jennie, 28 degrees at night! Oh sheer bliss! I can take even 40 degrees and high humidity, but the cold just finishes me off, especially with a sharp wind.

I think what I hate most about winter is the lack of daylight. I dislike drawing the curtains at 4pm, I feel as if I'm in an underground tunnel.

We often say that if we won the Lottery (not easy,as we don't even do it!) we'd spend the winter months in Australia and stay in UK for the summer. Africa is a bit too dodgy healthwise (malaria etc)

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: JennieG
Date: 04 Dec 16 - 03:15 PM

No, Eliza......28 degrees at night is not "sheer bliss". It is quite unpleasant, much too hot for beneficial sleep so we wake up feeling as tired as if we hadn't gone to bed at all. Doctors have issued warnings about the dangers of hot weather, because heat kills more people than cold.

We still have to survive today (forecast 39 deg) and tomorrow (forecast 36 deg) and it should be cooler after that. It will have been a very long draining five days when the heatwave ends.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 04 Dec 16 - 03:37 PM

I'm sorry Jennie if the heat bothers you. I do realise not everyone likes being hot, especially at night.I suppose I'm quite lucky as I come into my own when in Africa, for example. It must be awful if you can't get proper sleep and feel tired.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: JennieG
Date: 05 Dec 16 - 07:09 AM

Today reached 40 deg and we just didn't go outside. Supposedly tomorrow will be the last day of this heatwave, it has been quite nasty.

This evening also brought violent storms to our town with trees down, blackouts, damage to buildings - one commercial building in the centre of town had its roof blown off. Summer thunderstorms can be quite vicious in Australia, storm season starts in October and runs through to April......but we did get some badly needed rain out of this one.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 05 Dec 16 - 04:01 PM

Gosh, those storms sound terrifying Jennie. But at least the rain prevents any forest fires starting.
I remember being in Ontario in 1967 during the summer, and the electrical storms were ferocious, unlike anything I'd experienced in UK. Ghana too - when the humidity reaches a certain level the skies open and the place goes dark as night. Then the thunder crashes. Rain in W Africa is like a vertical water cannon!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: JennieG
Date: 05 Dec 16 - 05:47 PM

Not quite, Eliza......rain helps with fires, certainly, but many are started by lightning. Yesterday's storm was apparently responsible for a few; a comment on a local facebook page was about a fire starting by a lightning strike on the side of the road as the writer was driving by. If we could just have the rain without the storms it would be much better!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Dec 16 - 03:43 AM

I'm revising my dream of wintering in Australia if we win the Lottery! I think I might prefer southern Spain, with all the other old wrinkly ex-pat Brits, playing Bingo and eating fish and chips.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Dec 16 - 01:40 PM

In the northeastern US, the weather is about to turn, as Tattie Bogle would say, "baltic." A frigid wind is moving cold air and snow this way. At least it will put paid to the little moths, which are STILL stuck to the glass panes on the apartment building door this morning.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Dec 16 - 05:02 PM

....die, moths, die....whatever eats you has flown away south already....

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Dec 16 - 04:29 AM

We have winter floods warnings in effect for Northern California today. No rain yet, but it's only 1:30 AM.
-Joe Nightowl-

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 13 Dec 16 - 07:59 AM

Much to my husband's dejection, the weather gurus are now saying we're going to have the warmest Christmas for many a year. No snow, not even a smidgeon. Whoopeeeeeee!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 17 Dec 16 - 09:18 AM

If winter was not here before, it is here now. Completely white outside, except where it is plowed, salted, and sanded. But then ANOTHER storm system is supposed to move in with WARM air....

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 17 Dec 16 - 02:06 PM

....and the fine white powder from early this morning has been succeeded by slush, as the temperature rises.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Dec 16 - 12:14 PM

...winter will be back, never fear.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 18 Dec 16 - 09:34 PM

Stiff wind blew off the river at Mystic Seaport this afternoon!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: leeneia
Date: 19 Dec 16 - 11:53 AM

Ice followed by snow and bitter cold blew in Dec 17th. The Highway Patrol had over 3000 calls, there were more than 1500 accidents and six fatalities. Kansas City had 170 accidents.

It was a good day to stay home, but we crept to a concert in our trusty Subaru anyway. Small attendance but wonderful singing.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: leeneia
Date: 20 Dec 16 - 10:52 AM

Oops. Kansas City had 70 accidents, not 170.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Dec 16 - 01:56 PM

The winter solstice approaches, at which point everyone (to the north) will be in agreement that it is winter.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 Dec 16 - 03:40 AM

We're due fierce gales here on Friday, especially in Scotland. Predicted 90mph up there. Hope my sister and her girls will be OK. The storm is called Barbara, which is my sister's name. She's always causing trouble, her.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Dec 16 - 12:27 PM

Here's the solstice.

And the other thing I notice this week is the static electricity. I have to ground myself before I touch a wall switch, or fill the fuel tank on the auto.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 22 Dec 16 - 12:21 PM

...and at last the moths are...somewhere else. Anywhere else but trying to get into the building. Presumably well cocooned, wherever they are.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Dec 16 - 04:34 PM

Happy belated winter solstice to Skarpi, and hope he enjoyed it in good health.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Dec 16 - 03:02 PM

....and the sun is shining brightly.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Dec 16 - 11:11 AM

Winter will return in a day or two. For Christmas, we received a breathing spell of weather too warm for ice, and that IS nice.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Jan 17 - 06:33 PM

Skarpi, bless him, is up and about, because he posted to a different thread last week.

The Greater metro Boston area has dodged a heavy snowstorm or two thus far -- although a recent storm swept past and was awfully close for comfort.

Put new windshield wiper blades on the auto and got the fluids topped up -- can't be too well prepared.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Jan 17 - 04:22 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Jan 17 - 12:30 PM

....is here with a vengeance. it's blizzard / Nor'easter time. How is winter treating you?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Jan 17 - 02:39 PM

I can hear the snowplows outside. Earning their keep, they are! Don't know what inches per hour it is, but this is definitely no weather for driving, unless you drive a snowplow or a salt and sand truck. Or a tow truck, come to that....yes, the tow truck people must make a killing during a storm like this one. Boston is well and truly snowed in. I hear that Cape Cod is even worse.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 07 Jan 17 - 07:23 PM

8 inches here so far, and the end's not in sight!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Jan 17 - 12:04 PM

The Boston area has done its usual yeoman's job of tackling road surfaces. The snow is powder, the sky is clear and dry, and OOOH is it ever cold.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 Jan 17 - 01:15 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: ragdall
Date: 16 Jan 17 - 10:52 PM

After weeks of very cold weather (-25 C to -30C), we are now experiencing a potentially deadly warming to just above/below freezing. Motorists have been warned to stay off the highways as freezing rain is making driving very dangerous.

I stocked up on food a few days ago and plan to stay mainly indoors until we return to our proper winter weather.

rags

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 17 Jan 17 - 07:15 PM

Freezing rain here as well, oddly enough. Crunchy underfoot. Will it freeze worse, or thaw? Could swing either way....tricky stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Jan 17 - 07:26 PM

will it freeze? will it rain? maybe both?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 02:45 PM

Winter is here somewhere, but at the moment it feels like spring. Again.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 12:21 PM

...the winter of our discontent...

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 04:47 PM

Snow and wind! And maybe downed power lines...

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 11:42 AM

We had snow on Christmas weekend. Then we had snow on New Year's weekend. We had a week of below zero weather (degrees Fahrenheit). Then we had a creeping blizzard that was supposed to land elsewhere.
Daylight has just increased to above seven hours! Gaining 4 minutes a day right about now.
BUT. Temperatures are supposed to shift to the 30s (degrees Fahrenheit). And we may get rain! We've already had one building collapse, an inflatable sports center. Rain landing in heavily snowed-over flat roofs will not be good. There's a porch I've gotta attend to immediately.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Jan 17 - 02:43 PM

Rapparee could say that again.

And Gnu could say that again...and again...and again...

Not so bad here, yet. My condolences to the two of you.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 31 Jan 17 - 02:44 PM

It's picture pretty at the moment, the kind of snowfall where the snowflakes are small and visibility is still decent.
So we went from nor'easters to Alberta Clippers.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Feb 17 - 01:56 PM

....and here comes another storm system, with us right on the freezing line. So we'll get a short thaw and then it will all get cold again. Look out for freezing rain and black ice.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Feb 17 - 10:01 AM

Snow! With bells on.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 17 - 10:29 AM

Inflatable sports centre collapsed? That must have been a big let-down for the athletes!


I'll get me coat...😳

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 07 Feb 17 - 11:30 AM

Oh gawd Steve, you're terrible :)

We're glad to get into February. The days are visibly lengthening,and we draw the curtains at 5pm,not 4pm.

Saw some hazel catkins and pussy willow, plus a whole woodland full of lovely snowdrops, dainty British ones, not those giant foreign things. (I sound like Farage!)

This thread should now be called 'Spring is nearly here.'

             'February fill-dyke
          Be it black or be it white.'

(ie Precipitation, either in the form of snow or rain, will be sufficient to fill ditches.)

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Feb 17 - 12:54 PM

AND another nor'easter forecast, in which snow is to fall at a rate of two inches or more per hour.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 17 - 01:07 PM

Last night DC was 72 ,this morning it was 61.
Yep it'll snow tomorrow but I doubt if I get a chance to shovel.
Durn it ;^)

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Feb 17 - 10:06 AM

Snow! snow! and more snow!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 09 Feb 17 - 12:25 PM

One degree Celcius. One degree. Sleet. A bit of snow threatened.
So much for early signs of Spring!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 17 - 03:46 PM

It has been 72 by day and 61 at night in DC. Flies and daffodil sprouts have emerged.

Now its below freezing

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Feb 17 - 04:52 PM

That wind is making for blizzard conditions here with zero visibility. The poor snowplow drivers, they plow the road and the snow blows right back over it.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 17 - 05:28 PM

It's supposed to be down to the 20sF tonight, and back to about 60 on Sat.. (and I live near Donuel)

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 09 Feb 17 - 08:29 PM

After hours of hearing we had a blizzard warning, the storm was finally declared a blizzard. It was finally stopped.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 06:36 AM

I feel really sorry for all of you who are having blizzards and heavy snow. Snow ploughs are a rare sight here in the East of England. We occasionally have gritting lorries working during the night. Scotland is a different matter of course.

I bought a nice bunch of daffodils in the supermarket yesterday. They really lift the spirits when they open in their vase on the mantelpiece. Sigh... At least Valentine's Day is near, and I might get some chocolates and a lovely card, which will cheer me up no end!
Oh and Pancake Day on 28th Feb. I do so love pancakes! :)

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 11:23 AM

"The wind was rough
And cold & blough.
She kept her hands
Inside her mough..
When waiting for the plough,
And being tough and trying not to cough.


I suppose that's enough of that...☺

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 10 Feb 17 - 11:39 AM

Hahaha Bill! I expect she lived in a certain town in Berkshire?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Jan 18 - 01:25 PM

In the US, on TV, the Weather Channel
has a live-and-in-progress deal going on.
It isn't Happy New Year, either: it's

FROZEN AMERICA.

At least we are well in between those Named Storms.
Just got over Winter Storm Frankie;
the next is to be named Grayson.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jan 18 - 04:58 PM

tell me about it. I saw a White Walker downtown this morning.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Jan 18 - 03:37 PM

I wish they could talk about the impending blizzard
without using compound expressions like
bomb plus cyclone . . .

How goes it for our mudcatters
in the southeastern US?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Jan 18 - 05:19 PM

South Central has been below freezing for several days, but today we broke through the ice and into the low 40s. The storm that will drop frozen particulates on the east coast doesn't reach this far west. I have heard from a couple of Florida friends that it's darned chilly.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Jan 18 - 08:28 PM

Bee dubya ell?
Amos?

You still alive?
Grayson lowers the boom tomorrow morning up here.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 04 Jan 18 - 10:20 AM

Re: winter storm, southeastern New England in the US.

Tomorrow is today. Winter Storm Grayson is on top of us.
There was just time, early this morning, to get in the car,
take a short drive for last-minute errands, drive back,
park carefully, and get ready to hunker down for the day.
Early morning, the snow was lightly coming down.

Now we are socked in.
The wind is making the snowfall look horizontal.
The snow is coming down fast.
Visibility is many times worse.

And we only have, what, seven or eight hours to go . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Jan 18 - 05:16 PM

At this time yesterday,
Winter Storm Grayson had been here for hours,
and was taking its sweet time moving out.

The snow has stopped coming down,
only the wind remains and
yesterday's snow is either under your car tires
or in your face,
on account of the wind.

It's too cold and windy to be outside.
Just ask my poor car. It's out there and can't come in.
The engine runs, heroically enough,
but the alignment shudders at freeway speeds.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Joe_F
Date: 05 Jan 18 - 06:03 PM

I managed to get to the supermarket & back by battling traffic with my shopping cart. The exterior temperature is 4.6 deg F; the interior temperature is 69.3. The difference is proximately due to my landlord's leaving a check for the driver of the oil truck. Bless them, and everybody else up the supply chain.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jan 18 - 04:34 PM

At these temperatures the snow is the loudest of the season with squeaks groans and crunching underfoot.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Jan 18 - 01:37 PM

Cloudless blue sky, brilliant bright sunshine,
blinding white powdery snow (more than enough)
and subfreezing bitter cold (even more).

Temperatures above the freezing mark are to return
in the next seven days.
Which will make for at least two concerns that I can think of:
flooding,
and "frost heaves", by whatever name you call them -- ach, the road surfaces are going to CAVE.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Jan 18 - 03:42 PM

hoping the thaw does not trigger flooding.
at least the air doesn't make your face ache
like it did yesterday.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Jan 18 - 01:13 PM

Gnu?

Gnu - u -   u -   uuuu...

are you alive over there in New Brunswick?

all there is to report down here
is brrrrr, brrrr,    brrrrrr.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 15 Jan 18 - 01:36 PM

A forecast model suggests
that the Jetstream is going to go diagonal across the lower 48
so that the Western US is cold
and the Eastern US warms up...

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Dec 19 - 05:27 PM

"the snow has indignantly refused to budge"

Indignant? More like gloating, I shouldn't wonder.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Charmion
Date: 03 Dec 19 - 06:57 PM

Stratford, Ontario, is a winter f***ing wonderland.

Especially the icy parking lot I must traverse on my way to the Y for my aqua-fit class.

Why aqua-fit, and not, say, cross-country skiing?

Because, some thirty years ago, I slipped and fell in another icy parking lot far, far away and smashed my ankle. Then, four years later, I did something similar on an icy street and smashed my other ankle. Now I have wonky feet with extra arthritis.

F***ing winter.

I’d emigrate, but I’d miss the seasons ...

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Dec 19 - 07:07 PM

Charmion,
I recall your post, elsewhere,
saying that the aqua-fit class at the Y
did not make your foot hurt.

Has that changed?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Dec 19 - 06:26 AM

There was me thinking that this was a Game of Thrones thread.

Some people are too rooted in reality for their own good :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Dec 19 - 07:27 AM

Looks like a galactic storm

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Charmion
Date: 04 Dec 19 - 07:57 AM

Keberoxu — my wonky feet hurt at least a bit all the time now; I even wake up with a dull ache in the ankles. Aqua-fit is about the only thing I do that does not make them worse.

By Christmas, I will have accepted and adjusted to winter, but Advent is the season of “Oh, no! Not again! Why me?”

I shall soon stop whining. I promise.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: robomatic
Date: 04 Dec 19 - 07:26 PM

We have had one of the warmest Fall seasons I've experienced in Alaska. Where I live, Anchorage, should have been frozen up over a month ago. Instead we had periods of above freezing temperatures with lots of rain. If the rain had been snow probably would've been well over two feet of the stuff. Less than a week ago the snow started to stick and now it's well below freezing with about two-three inches of the white stuff. Latest entry to Winter I've seen up here.

Most of us think it's climate change but maybe disagree on the root causes.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Dec 19 - 01:27 PM

All I want for Xms is my im peach ment

This is the winter of his im peach ment

How much is that eletion in the window?

City sidewalks, slippry sidewalks whaaaa

When I was just a little girl
I asked my mother, what will I be
Will I be pretty
Will I be rich
Here's what she said to me
It's fucked up, my dear
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours to fear
Que será, será
What will be, will be
When I grew up and fell in love
I asked my sweetheart, what lies ahead
Will we have rainbows
Day after day
Here's what my sweetheart said
I'm for Trump, my dear
Whatever will be, will be
The future is great again
Que será, será
What will be, will be
Now I have children of my…

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Dec 19 - 03:49 PM

A new Christmas song

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Dec 19 - 10:13 AM

I hear there is a south 'Western' stormin in by Xmas. It's named 'Rebel without a Claus' staring Clint Noreastwood

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Charmion
Date: 07 Dec 19 - 03:00 PM

Southwestern Ontario is easing gently into winter, after a really nasty Remembrance Day. The sky is blue today and most of the snow has melted again. The squirrels are out of bed and fossicking around in the snow, looking for my expensive tulip bulbs, I bet.

But it's plenty cold once the sun goes down.

Tonight the Stratford Concert Choir sings Handel's "Messiah" in a mid-Victorian church that happens to be the largest indoor space in town that is not the Festival Theatre or a hockey arena. The draft from the transept door, which blasts across the orchestra and the front rows of the choir, would freeze the balls off a brass monkey. Most members of the Soprano and Alto sections augment their performance outfits (long black gown, strand of pearls) with sweaters and skiing underwear, but the memo seems not to have reached the orchestra. Last night at the dress rehearsal, the fourth desk violin and viola were obviously shuddering. The men, of course, do just fine in their dinner jackets. Damn them.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Dec 19 - 07:35 PM

I don't wanna go home.
I LIKE December in Phoenix, Arizona.
Now August in Phoenix, Arizona is hot enough for Hades,
and I leave that to the residents who moved here from India --
I understand that there's a nice little immigrant community from India, and if they like that kind of heat, they can have it.

But December in Phoenix is, not hot, but pleasant.
The plane goes back Tuesday and I don't wanna go home. At all.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Charmion
Date: 09 Dec 19 - 09:35 AM

The sky in Stratford is gun-metal grey and it's raining. Today's forecast high is about 8C. I can't believe this is the second week of Advent in Ontario.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Dec 19 - 11:09 AM

Winter is still 10 days away from today by the calender.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Charmion
Date: 11 Dec 19 - 04:46 PM

The calendar is European. The weather we get around here is Canadian, it is definitely winter weather, and it starts in November at the latest.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Dec 19 - 04:57 PM

I lived on the US Canadian border for 8 years so I know what 40 below feels like. It feels like !@#$%6

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 Dec 19 - 06:14 PM

And the storms just keep on coming.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 17 Dec 19 - 03:11 PM

Where I live and drive my car,
it's all about ice, at least it was this morning.
Seems to be warming up enough to change
from sleet to a very cold rain.
Of course, when night falls, it will all re-freeze.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Dec 19 - 02:15 PM

brrrrrrrr.

But the storms may stay away from us for a little while.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Dec 19 - 01:41 PM

Getting a break from the repeated stormy weather,
which gives everybody a chance to breathe.
In fact it's so clear and dry
that the blue sky in eastern Massachusetts
recalls the skies over the state of New Mexico.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 20 Dec 19 - 01:55 PM

We've had so much rain over the last few weeks, it's getting scary.
Our local river (the Wensum) and the lakes and pools are overflowing.
Crops are starting to rot in the saturated land.
I fear for the wildlife (apart from all the waterfowl of course, who are loving it!)
The wind has been so strong our external TV aerial on the chimney stack has been dislodged and the signal is ropey. A chap is coming this weekend to attach it a bit more firmly.
What's really getting me down is the darkness and lack of sunlight. Very depressing...

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Dec 19 - 08:33 AM

The news on television early this morning:
a school team was headed for
an ice hockey match.

The match was cancelled.
The winter storm had
turned the parking lots and roads
into skating rinks.
There was video footage of the
school bus for the hockey team,
losing traction in the parking lot
and smoothly sliding directly to the SIDE ...

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Dec 19 - 09:04 AM

Mr. Cat's view on Events

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Dec 19 - 07:54 PM

Life is interesting on the freezing-temp line.
A bit of a razor's edge.
During daylight hours, heaven be thanked,
it was safe enough to be out driving about.
But as soon as sunset approached,
the most imperative thing was
to get home, get the car safely put where it spends the night,
and get inside, warm and dry,
before today's rain and slush re-freezes.

At least there will be less precip here tomorrow.

How did everybody in Northern New England
/maritime Canada get through today?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Jan 20 - 02:18 PM

One night below freezing so far. It was in the 70s [F] earlier in the week...

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 02 Jan 20 - 04:22 PM

A couple of days ago we had 12 degrees Celsius and bright sunshine. The wood pigeons and great tits started piping up, thinking Spring had arrived. Buds appeared on our honeysuckle. I got rather worried, as Nature is thoroughly confused.
Now it's down to 6 degrees with a very chilly wind, and freezing temperatures are forecast over the weekend.
The climate is completely up the creek isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 06:51 AM

Its a warm but wet 58 degrees F in DC this afternoon, warmer Sat.
Winter is coming.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 03 Jan 20 - 08:14 PM

It got up to 52 F in my part of RI. I saw two small flying insects on my front door. I told them they are too early. This is a fake spring, not the real thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Jan 20 - 03:04 PM

We can see sunshine.
That's no small thing.

Even in the part of the world
where they have summer now,
it's no mean feat to see the sunshine ... God have mercy on them.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Jan 20 - 03:28 PM

Snow today. Lovely.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 07 Jan 20 - 04:57 PM

Winter's here, with bracks and mollies. Fist and mog, and ricy woads.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Jan 20 - 06:42 PM

Thanks for waking me up, John MacKenzie.
Here's what I twigged:

macks -- macintoshes
brollies -- umbrellas
Mist and Fog
Icy Roads

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Jan 20 - 08:28 PM

At 1:30PM, north of DC, I went to my HMO...had to wait 30 min. When I came out out it was snowing like crazy at 35F... not much sticking, but Winter is here...right at freezing at 8:30 pm. Up to 40F tomorrow. Colder for several days, then back into the low 50s next week.

I have snow shovels where I can get to them. Lots of Winter left.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 10:40 AM

Well keberoxu, you may regret your comments, as here is the full ouevre, written by my late lamented friend Ursula Wadey.

Spooner Rides Again

Winter's here with bracks and mollies,
Fist and mog on ricey woads,
Up the hills the litter grollies
Speak to shred their useful loads
Flannel cherries seem uncertain'
Guaging rails have caused delay,
Turn the heat up, draw the curtains,
Home, sweet home is best today.

Slow and sneat and poggy fatches,
Rip your deadlights, choose your yolk,
Torn out wire too often catches,
Winning spiels can be no joke,
Do you KNOW your schooling kissed 'em?
Haughty noses sometimes drip;
Puggish slump and slapping piston,
Might succumb to Arctic nip.

Take your breasts and brave a shakedown,
Watch for letter when it's wit.
Lift your killer flap with caution'
Bums from pobs might score a hit.
Fullidge Wherry closed this morning,
Billy Visity is poor,
Par Cark's full, I give due warning'
Do take care to dock your lore.

As for windscreen bosher wattles,
You may find these friends to tea,
While, alas, the normal throttles,
Don't respond to tots of pee.
You may meet the treason's stubble'
Only if your rules are tight'
Let your diligence rebubble;
Day in stores, you'll be all right.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 12:50 PM

New discoveries in space may surpass everything this winter.
Space is mostly space and is the perfect place to show off
the season of dying, revealing life's challenging long wait
to finally find the antidote to the emptiness of existence.
Living
More than a google of frozen rocks astroids comets and planets
harbor the seeds of life for their long wait to wake up with
a consciousness vast or slow, big or tall, hot or old, all
feeling a glimmer or giant glompse of the universal word "WOW"
Loving
Somethingness gradually pushes out the nothingesque at its peak.
Its not complete until it finds the past present and the possible
future path to sharing life before nothing resumes its slow return.
Lookin at you kid, you are like all life celebrating the great unknown
Living

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 01:26 PM

Bill yesterday we did the same thing at the same time

except I'm getting a slit and split and a couple of vanilla eurolifts for dessert. My visit was off Rock ledge. Parking was $8!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 05:16 PM

We just had us a snow squall.
Here and gone, just like that --
they DO get your attention though.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 20 - 09:18 PM

I lived in Buffalo (Niagara Falls to Fredonia) and saw a lake effect blizzard pile snow 5 to 6 feet deep in just 3 hours. So I'm relatively jaded to people's claim of what constitutes snow.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Jan 20 - 02:20 PM

and it's too frigging COLD.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Jan 20 - 07:17 PM

... and now, ice on roads and pavements.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 06:20 AM

"In the winter of our discontent when a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold in his tenper, possessed of some talents, having the example of military nazi habits - despotic in his ordinary demeanor - known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty - when such a man is seen to mount the porn queen of popularity - to join in the cry of danger to liberty - to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government and bringing it under suspicion - when right doesn't matter to elected people - to flatter and fall in with all the nonsense of the zealots of the day - when no one in his party casts a profile of courage - it may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion and division that he may 'ride the storm and direct the whirlwind'"


When right does not matter we are lost as a nation of laws or families for freedom.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 07:10 AM

If you have any old V neck cashmere sweaters that you find worthy of retirement, use them as the most comefortable and warm undershirt in your life.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Jan 20 - 01:58 PM

The next storm is supposed to be one of those
wet and warm deals.
Maybe it won't be warm in Newfoundland, heaven help them,
but it's supposed to be a rainy balmy thing in southern New England.
With threats of flooding ... i HATE flooding ...

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 03:38 PM

… the sun is still setting early.
It will be a relief when it's five o'clock in the evening
and not yet after dark, but that will be a bit of a wait.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Jan 20 - 03:47 PM

My sister up in Scotland was on the phone this evening and said one day last week they had a 'hot' day (12 degrees Celsius!!) with sunshine, and she sat on her patio 'sunbathing'. Good Lord, no wonder she has hairy legs. That temperature would have me swathed in thick woollens and a warm scarf.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Feb 20 - 06:59 PM

Still here.
Although it's Groundhog Day
and for some strange reason,
the forecasts said spring would come early.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Hrothgar
Date: 03 Feb 20 - 06:02 AM

Can we have a little bit of your winter?

35 degrees Celius (95 in the old money) and 85% humidity here. Trying to build up to a storm, but not trying hard enough. We need the rain, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 03 Feb 20 - 07:08 AM

Hrothgar, you can have all our rain with pleasure! The fields in our village are still quite flooded and the farmer has been keeping his stock in the stockyard (producing tons of slurry!) The river Wensum is nearly over the banks, and our little village bridge is only about two inches above the waterline. Our garden is producing liberal amounts of moss.
At least it's not all that cold (about 10 degrees Celsius)

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Feb 20 - 01:59 PM

We have had summer temperatures this week.
There has been no winter.
This is our winter of
disrepute.

The strangest conspiracy theory is that the coronavirus has mutated to infect elections.
In Iowa, the election results for Democrats is ERROR 404
The Republican results are a earthquake tsunami landslide for Trump,

615 - 2020 electoral college delegate votes for President - Trump
321 - for unknown.

Clearly elections are very ill.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Feb 20 - 12:42 PM

The sky is spitting out little bits of sleet,
and the wind is up,
and the clouds are gray and low and coming lower.
Sigh.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Feb 20 - 05:21 PM

"The sun spit..."
quote Funny Face

We're gaining 2 minutes of sun light per day.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Feb 20 - 12:16 PM

True enough about the sun,
which is a great relief
after December's darkness.

Today, though, it's all about the WIND
and strained flags on the flagpole
outside the post office.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Feb 20 - 11:13 AM

Carambolage! Ay caramba!

the story says that the cause of all those motor vehicles
crashing into each other
was not the road surface,
but the white-out/zero-visibility conditions.
There was no storm happening at the time,
conditions were clear in the surrounding countryside;
but this one stretch of highway is notorious
for blowing snow and wind.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 22 Feb 20 - 04:25 PM

Today I found myself driving the highways around
Pittsfield, Massachusetts, in the Berkshire mountains
(which are in line with the Appalachians),
in the west of the state,
near the state line with New York.

Obviously their winter has been colder than the winter season
where I live.
Around my hometown, it has been a rainy winter.
But in the central piece of Berkshire County,
there is frozen snow around the roads, ice underfoot.
Today is an uncommonly warm dry day, especially for Pittsfield in winter,
and it is MUD SEASON underfoot with
a blindingly blue sky overhead straight out of New Mexico's high mountain desert horizons.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Feb 20 - 07:07 AM

That is a particularly pretty drive

This morning I was looking at antarctica in summer from space.
It has what looks like half the ice it used to have and is totaly brown beneath South America

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Feb 20 - 05:25 PM

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/02/25/antarctica-snow-caps-melting-heat-wave-sater-pkg-vpx.cnn

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 03:28 PM

Going to be bitterly cold, I hear,
for Leap Year Day tomorrow.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 10:51 AM

Sunshine AND snow!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 09:10 AM

Of course, when the day arrives that
a nor'easter storm separates all the trees from
the very last of their dying leaves,

my warmest winter coat is at the cleaners' ...

I'll make do with a water-repellent coat
and an extra layer underneath.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 10:10 AM

This winter will be a HOT MESSNESS DUE TO DISEASE.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 06:57 PM

Mornings with snow on branches outside my window are such a delight.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 11 Jan 22 - 06:22 PM

. . . in the Northern Hemisphere,
and it's cold cold c o o o l d

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Charmion
Date: 12 Jan 22 - 10:07 AM

No bad weather, Keb, only inadequate gear.

I’m wearing merino wool socks these days, 24/7, even in bed. I got them at Mark’s Work Wearhouse, a subsidiary of Canadian Tire (that wonderful source of everything needful), and they are Pepto-Bismol pink. I also have flannel-lined jeans for any outside jaunt at -10C or colder, and mukluks for when things get desperate. I haven’t needed the mukluks since leaving Ottawa, but they’re in the closet just in case.

The dog people of my neighbourhood are fun to watch. They dress both themselves and their dogs for the weather, and few things give me more of a giggle than the pair of greyhounds who live around the corner. Their human takes them out three times a day in matching jackets and shoes, coordinated with their collars and leads.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 15 Jan 22 - 10:58 PM

Ah, Charmion, I recognize that CET quote! To his memory.

We are well below freezing over here,
and there are predictions for heavy snow headed our way.
But as the weather was clear today,
I went to the nearest Barnes and Noble branch in order to
purchase some books to curl up and read during the 'snow day'.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Jan 22 - 12:13 AM

Looking at my last post... That was then.

Lost power for 3 days last week, a nasty storm expected tomorrow.

But it is still beautiful.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jan 22 - 05:56 AM

Its midnight in Hawaii right now with a full moon behind palm trees over a gentle surf.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: leeneia
Date: 17 Jan 22 - 01:42 PM

We had icy rain followed by 3 inches of snow. Since driving on ice is so dangeous, people stayed in in droves, and my street was silent. How lovely! At the bird feeder we were honored with the presence of a flock of tree sparrows, never seen at our feeder before, and that's since 1977.

It's melting now, and according to the garden columnist in the newspaper, that's a very good thing. Our December was very dry.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Jan 22 - 12:16 PM

we are headed for subfreezing temperatures and
I am SO over this frigid weather.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Neil D
Date: 20 Jan 22 - 11:57 PM

Our wind chills have been about 30 degrees below freezing for days. We also had a 14-inch snowstorm 3 days ago, none of which has melted. Taking my wife to work Monday was quite the adventure. Even state routes were not cleared. Some were still bad the next morning. Then this morning, I got stuck behind 3 different township trucks going 25 mph below the limit and throwing salt everywhere, even though all the roads were clean and dry. My wife said they must be expecting another storm and, sure enough, we got an additional 1/4 inch today. Thank god they laid all that salt.
Some of our southern states are also experiencing rare winter weather'
My wife saw a satirical weather warning that said if you live in the south stay at home. Do not go out for any reason for fear of dire consequence. If you live up north it's time to get your big coat out.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 26 Jan 22 - 10:07 PM

It's a bird ...
It's a plane ...
it's a
Bomb-Cyclone nor'easter, and
it's coming Friday night . . . !

(thinking of gnu)

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Jan 22 - 04:26 PM

We got freezing rain but it will be snow. But not like down East!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Jan 22 - 07:10 PM

Well, the snowstorm is creeping up the Atlantic coast as we speak.
Right now the doppler radar shows snow in Delaware, New Jersey,
and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Saturday is pretty much a hunker-down-and-stay-indoors day
where I am staying,
although the location is far enough inland
that we may get less snow than they get on the coast.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jan 22 - 11:01 AM

There is no other recording of Vivaldi's four seasons 'WINTER' as expressive, grandose, over the top and magnified in every way than this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oX88JhIPmg

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 29 Jan 22 - 09:50 PM

I'm staying not far from the Hudson River Valley
in southern New England.
Just far enough north and west
to dodge the coastal weather.
Not to say that we didn't get any snow -- we certainly did --
but it was a light amount, and it was the dry cold powdery stuff
that brushes right off of your car in the parking lot.

Whereas on the coast they are buried under the snow
and there is a wind making for white-out conditions.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Feb 22 - 11:46 AM

Snow is falling with a vengeance here;
I would not call it a blizzard as it is not white-out nor strong winds.
But it's a substantial snowfall, and it is falling at a 45-degree angle.
For some reason I look out the window and
I keep seeing these Vees of geese flying overhead. At noon??

We had enough of a thaw here to clean up
the inevitable frozen snow and ice in the parking lots,
so now it's here-we-go-again.
The snow is going to be the dry powdery sort because
the temps are far enough below freezing.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Feb 22 - 12:28 PM

Its gonna be an early spring. I'm seeing Robins and Daffodils starting to appear.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Feb 22 - 08:56 PM

Indeed, winter WAS here, but if you don't like it,
wait a few minutes ...
or a few days ...
I hear songbirds in the wetlands behind the
residence where I am staying,
early in the morning.
Haven't heard those little songs all winter.

Nor does it seem coincidence
that I saw those v-formations of geese
going back, and forth, and back, and forth ...

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Charmion
Date: 21 Feb 22 - 11:07 PM

Thaw today in Stratford, and a veritable chorus of songbirds in the hedge around my house. Chickadees and cardinals, mostly, and I think I saw a bunting the other day.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Feb 22 - 03:41 PM

Losing its grip here!

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Feb 22 - 09:48 PM

And NOW there are winter storm advisories and warnings here,
with a snowstorm crunching this way.
We're supposed to be under these warnings,
in the Berkshire piece of the Appalachians,
for a solid twelve hours,
and there could be sleet along with the inches of snow.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Feb 22 - 09:46 PM

it was pretty as a picture postcard here, after the snow,
but I stayed indoors all day.
Tomorrow morning is soon enough
to get out there with the brush and the icebreaker,
and tackle my parked car in the parking lot.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 27 Feb 22 - 02:31 AM

Well amazingly I'm going to mow both lawns today! The grass has grown very long due to the high rainfall this winter, and the weather forecast is 'dry, sunny and 8 degrees Celsius'. I hope my electric mower can cope with the long grass, which can block the rotary blades.
But it should all look lovely once I've finished.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Mar 22 - 11:44 AM

And now the month of March is here,
when ANYTHING can happen (and sometimes does).

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Mar 22 - 12:21 PM

Senofou wins the early spring award!
Is a bag of manure OK?

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 01 Mar 22 - 12:45 PM

I took advantage of the fine weather (I think Friday) to cut some grass too, Sen. When I stopped, I heard next door's mower running...

I didn't have much to do and have only done enough to bring things back under control but there were parts where I thought the petrol mower might struggle if I left things much longer. I've still got the grass inside our small veg plot to do. I usually use a small cordless mower for that (and the petrol mower is too big) but I fear the grass is already too long for that machine so the first cut in there might have to be with a strimmer.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Charmion
Date: 01 Mar 22 - 01:12 PM

On Shrove Tuesday, winter is clearly weakening in Perth County, Ontario, but it won’t leave without a struggle. The light is now strong enough that I need to wear over-the-specs dark goggles for driving — except when it’s snowing like mad. Which it did over the weekend, and will do some more tonight and tomorrow.

We keep the snow shovel handy well into May.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Senoufou
Date: 01 Mar 22 - 01:13 PM

Hee hee Donuel, that would do nicely, thank you! I do like manure, very organic.
I now have primroses, early daffodils, snowdrops and violets out in my garden, which shows that winter isn't 'here' (as in the title of this thread) but 'on its way out'.
On top of this, the male wood pigeons have started their irritating and ceaseless cooing on the roof of my bungalow. ("My toe bleeds Betty!" on and on and on)

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 02 Mar 22 - 02:08 PM

Meanwhile, it another corner of Nouvelle Prusse, winter's grip is loosening. We have over 12 hours from morning twilight to evening twilight. In the early afternoon, it is already -4C and feels warm compared with the previous three months.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 04 Mar 22 - 07:43 AM

Don't know if March came in like a lion,
but it certainly came in really cold.
Of course in a few days comes one of those freak thaw spikes.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Mar 22 - 08:13 AM

This Sunday it will be 25 degrees above 'normal' to 78 F in DC.

Subject: RE: BS: Winter is here
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Mar 22 - 09:15 PM

Winter isn't finished with us yet.
We had a heck of a blizzard the other day.
Not all that much snowfall to measure,
it's just that that wind was gusting to 40 miles per hour,
the snow was going sideways,
and the visibility was awful.

Now this week it is all supposed to thaw out AGAIN.