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Seeking Irish songbook from Wexford area

Joe Offer 10 Nov 12 - 07:47 PM
Jim Carroll 11 Nov 12 - 02:42 AM
Fergie 11 Nov 12 - 10:32 AM
Jim Carroll 11 Nov 12 - 11:11 AM
Fergie 11 Nov 12 - 12:01 PM
GUEST,Big Al Whittle 11 Nov 12 - 02:15 PM
MartinRyan 11 Nov 12 - 04:08 PM
Joe Offer 13 Nov 12 - 01:34 AM
Owen Woodson 13 Nov 12 - 10:04 AM
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Subject: Seeking Irish songbook from Wexford area
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Nov 12 - 07:47 PM

Here's an interesting e-mail I got from somebody. Can anybody help?
    Hi Joe, I am hoping you or one of your forum members might be able to help me out. I once had a Green paperback book, just over A5 size, that contained old folk songs from around the Arklow/Courtown/ Balleygarret areas of Wexford. They were mostly about fishing boats and loss at sea. I would think this book would have had only have a small print run and I had my copy about 6 years ago. One of the songs was about my great grandad and his fishing boat. I can't remember the name of the book, author or name of the song. My grandad was James Fitzsimons who was the captain of his fishing boat in which two crew were lost. If you could put out a request for a name of this book i would be very grateful and a possible place to purchase it.
    Many Thanks
    Ian


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Subject: RE: Seeking Irish songbook from Wexford area
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 02:42 AM

Hi Joe
It sounds like 'Songs of the Wexford Coast' collected by Joseph Ranson cc.
It was first published in 1948 and reprinted locally by John English and Co. Ltd in 1975
No idea if it is still in print (probably not), but I would suggest the Irish Traditional Music Archive should be able to help - failing that, local singer Paddy Berry would be the man to ask.
The 1975 introduction, by James Hammel Jnr. of Kilmuckridge, Co. Wexford, mentions the possibility of a second edition with further songs, though I have never seen a copy of this.
It acknowledges the assistance of The County Museum, Enniscorthy, which also might be worth contacting
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Seeking Irish songbook from Wexford area
From: Fergie
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 10:32 AM

Hi Jeo et al,

I have a copy of Songs of the Wexford Coast by Joseph Ranson. It is out of print and difficult to procure. after a long search I got my copy on eBay. I've promised to donate it to the ITMA. If Ian can be more specific about the song he wants I will transcribe it and post it on Mudcat. Fergus


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Subject: RE: Seeking Irish songbook from Wexford area
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 11:11 AM

There's a copy for sale from 'Collector Books' (Australia) for $24.00 (don't know what that works out as in 'real' money but it seems an awful lot compared to the original £1.00 displayed on the front cover)
Jim Carroll


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Subject: ADD: The Poulduff Fishermen
From: Fergie
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 12:01 PM

Hi Jeo et al,

I found the song and here it is,

Fergus

Transcribed from Songs of the Wexford Coast collected by Joseph Ranson 1948.

Note; Words from Margaret Mitten, Dec. 12th, 1937. Margaret was related to James Fitzsimons, the man who saved the wrecked fishermen. The author of the song was Mogue Doyle of Glasscarrig. Miss K.G. Flood took down the air from the singing of Thomas Murphy, Clondaw, Kilcormack, 1947.

THE POULDUFF FISHERMEN

As I rose from my slumber on the eleventh day of July,
'Twas early in the morning dawn I heard a doleful cry.
I stood awhile amazed thinking what it might be.
In a short while a maid divine in tears approached me

She appeared to be deranged or one quite out of mind.
I asked her name and whence she came and where she did reside.
She replied: "at Green Rock abbey, where once was mirth and glee;
Along this shore three children more the waves have snatched from me.

'Twas on a summers evening they put their boat to sea.
No danger did approach them till early the next day.
Returning home as usual in love and unity,
The cruel Perseverance she proved our destiny.

The Perseverance was a wreck, as you may understand,
She launched us in eternity all by the Lord's command.
When our boat she struck the wreck, of course her sails did jibe,
Young Walsh and Peter Redmond jumped on the weather side.

When our boat struck the sunken wreck the wild waves did pour in,
As from a well or waste-gate, from her stern unto her stem,
The Captain said, "I fear, my boys, pale death is close at hand;
We'll sail her in close by the wind, in hopes to gain the land.

These words were scarcely spoken when our yarnsman did cry;
"I see a boat to windward, she will be here by an' by."
The captain cried "strip off your clothes; she has us on her lee."
Young Walsh cried out "I cannot swim, what will become of me?"

A few more words were spoken when our boat received a sea
That sent her to the bottom without any more delay.
It's a poor thing to be drowning: now think of those poor men
Contending hard with wind and tide stripped naked to their skin.

They had no consolation but from the God on high,
But to their joy and great surprise, a boat soon passed them by.
Thy cried out "we are drowning," as well as they could speak,
But the sea ran deep and heavy and over them did break.

Fitzsimons cried: "Hold hard, my boys; I'll bring you safe to shore."
He picked up some, on buoys and nets and one upon an oar,
Long life to James Fitzsimons and to his worthy crew;
He needed not an order; he well knew what to do.

He soon picked up five live men and then a body dead,
And two of them he left behind; salt tears for them were shed.
When our boat she reached the shore with the sad and fatal news,
It grieved the hearts of rich and poor, and set them all confused.

To think of these three darling men, the Pride of Poulduff Strand.
They were launched unto eternity all by the Lord's command.
Of their names I must make mention, I will not pass them by;
John and Bryanie Leacy, the same I won't deny.

There was Moses and James Whitty and Kinsella likewise;
Young Walsh and Peter Redmond, two darling fine young boys,
There's one thing more that grieves me sore and causes me to weep;
'Tis for young Peter Redmond that's lying in the deep;

There he's a prey for Neptune, where the foaming billows roar;
'Tis sad for his aged parents, they will never see him more.
We'll search the briny waters; we'll search them night and day,
Until his body will arise and float upon the sea.

The clergy from the altar desired of us to pray,
That the Lord their souls He may receive upon the Judgement Day,
Young Redmond, Walsh and Whitty, the pride of Poulduff Strand,
That were launched unto eternity all be the Lord's command.


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Subject: RE: Seeking Irish songbook from Wexford area
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 02:15 PM

Kilmuckridge

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Kilmuckridge&hl=en&rlz=1T4RNRN_enGB423GB423&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=CPifU


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Subject: RE: Seeking Irish songbook from Wexford area
From: MartinRyan
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 04:08 PM

The book is Songs of the Wexford Coast. (Collected by Joseph Ranson, C.C.) Originally published in 1948, it was republished in 1975, by James Hammel (Jr.) of Kilmuckridge - which is the version with the £1 price displayed on the (green) cover!

The reprint still turns up at bookfairs and dealers in Ireland - the original less often. Both should certainly be available online but I'm not sure of current prices.

Fergie has provided the song, above. MARINER would probably be able to add local knowledge to it.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Seeking Irish songbook from Wexford area
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 01:34 AM

Thanks a lot for the great information. I've forwarded it to the requestor.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Seeking Irish songbook from Wexford area
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 10:04 AM

Joe,

Thanks for starting this thread. Songs of the Wexford Coast has always been pricey and hard to obtain over here. Your posting reminded me that I hadn't searched for it in quite a while, and I've now located a very affordable copy from an Irish dealer. All I've got to do now is to try and stop counting the minutes until it arrives.


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Subject: RE: Seeking Irish songbook from Wexford area
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 04:40 PM

I think I'm going to have to find a copy for myself.

I got a nice thank-you note from the requestor:
    Joe, a big big thank you to you and all your forum members. I can't thank you enough for the support you have all given me over finding this book. I had some bad news this week, in that the house built and lived in by James Fitzsimons, my great grandfather, was burnt to the ground last week by arsonists and everything we have connected with him has gone. The book with come as some comfort to my mother, as they can't take away what is written in song.
    once again, Many Thanks


Thanks to all.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Seeking Irish songbook from Wexford area
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Nov 12 - 02:57 PM

Wonderful!


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