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C/D Sales of Local Musicians

Beer 13 Nov 12 - 08:07 PM
GUEST,999 13 Nov 12 - 08:22 PM
bobad 13 Nov 12 - 08:42 PM
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Beer 13 Nov 12 - 09:28 PM
Ernest 14 Nov 12 - 01:43 AM
John P 14 Nov 12 - 09:39 AM
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Subject: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: Beer
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 08:07 PM

Brother Norman just posted the following on Facebook and I thought it would be interesting as what your thoughts on the subject are.
Adrien


Norm

Hello musical friends..As a recording musician i ask for your input. Most music stores excluding CD Warehouse and Compact disc ,carry little or no cds of local recording artists??Why is that??We the local musicians Buy our musical instruments, accessories,
lessons,piano's,pianoes,guitars,etc,etc from these stores and there is very little exposure othCd'sthan cds from other countries??My taughts,are..The first thing as a musician would like to see is local artists having a display case.what you think??


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: GUEST,999
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 08:22 PM

1) Are ya gonna leave them on consignment? If so, are ya gonna remember how many you left?

2) If you're local, won't most people who want your stuff already have it?

An aside: there is one a$$hole here who never bought a CD in his life. He doesn't mind having somebody 'rip him one' however.

3) CDs are a pain to carry as a retailer because they are easy to lift. (Had three of mine walk that way. Hell, I can name the people who took 'em.)

4) I agree with Norm, but a display case means what? If it's gonna cost the retailer more than s/he will ever make by selling local artist CDs, who's going to do that?


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: bobad
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 08:42 PM

From what I've seen stores that sell CDs are a vanishing breed - the two that Norman mentions in Ottawa are pretty much the last ones standing. The large ones like HMV in Ottawa and Sam the Record Man in Toronto have closed up shop. The new marketplace is the internet - like it or not.


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: Beer
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 09:24 PM

Thank you both for your comments.
One thing that is for certain is that if you are middle class or below there is no easy way. However , with today's tech. there are opportunities to spread your artistic talent out there. one example is C/D baby.
ad.


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: Beer
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 09:28 PM

Oh! and I wanted to mention this above and forgot. I am speaking of marketing and here is an important question. The title of a thread is like selling C/D's. Any suggestions as to what I should have titled this thread. Or is this one O.K.
Maybe the question should be for another thread.
Ad.


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: Ernest
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 01:43 AM

Adrien,
the thread title is ok with me. But why the slash between the c and the d?

Otherwise I think CD-Stores should carry CDs of local musicians. The locals might have them already, but not the tourists. When I am on holiday I like to bring some as souvenirs.

Same goes for big stores that sell instruments as well as CDs (I remember Archambault in Montreal having both).

For instrument shops that don`t carry CDs it is not a must. One guitar shop round here used to have a few CDs of local musicians, but gave up since. Apparently not enough sales.

Best
Ernest


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: John P
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 09:39 AM

As someone who use to do the CD buying for a local folk music store, I can state with confidence that local musician CDs don't sell unless the musician is already quite well-known locally and is playing LOTS of gigs to stay that way. I'm talking about the top 5% or so of musicians who put out CDs. The store I worked at had a policy of supporting local musicians by carrying their CDs and, for years, we always bought a few. We usually had a "Local Music" section as well as putting them in whatever section they belonged in.

These days, no CDs are selling and stores are getting out of the business. But even before that happened, local CDs, for the most part, represented money down the drain and dead shelf space. We tried the consignment route, but that actually cost more than buying them outright -- we had to keep track of them, and that takes time, especially since a majority of the local musicians are inept at running their businesses.


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: Beer
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 02:46 PM

Ernest, the first time that I saw CD written it was like this C/D so Always thought that was the way to present it.
Thanks John that was very interesting.
Ad.


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: GUEST,Tamarack
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 05:43 PM

A display case created by the manufacturer of guitars for example.
( WE AT GIBSON GUITAR SUPPORT LOCAL CD RECORDING ARTISTS )
The guitar companies provide the display case which shines on them..
As for cds becoming out of touch ,what do you hand out at a concert ?


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: GUEST,999
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 07:14 PM

Memories.


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: GUEST,999
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 07:20 PM

BTW, when you back in Ormstown?


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: John P
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 09:58 AM

I think CDs still sell reasonably well at concerts. People do want to take home a memory, and a CD facilitates that. Musicians who want to put out a CD should understand that they will sell CDs at shows and, in general, nowhere else. If you don't play shows, you probably won't sell CDs.


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: GUEST,999
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 10:09 AM

Couldn't agree more, John P.


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: GUEST,999
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 10:11 AM

However, I'd suggest that there is no need to go into full-production CDs. Keep your cost under $3000 and at least you'll break even.


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 04:12 PM

CDs don't sell unless the prospective buyer has heard the performer recently. I'd guess that virtually all local performers' CDs are sold at concerts.
This is an uncomforable truth for one in the CD selling business to face. I've found that even CDs by well-known and respected UK performers don't sell in the US , unless the performer has been touring over here: CDs by the likes of Pete Coe and John Connoly just don't sell over here.


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 10:54 PM

It is ironic that the obituary of Charlie Larade should coincide with this thread. Charlie used his music store in Cheticamp, Cape Breton to promote the local talent of his native island. He was everything wished for here! RIP!
Charlie Larade


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: Beer
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 10:59 PM

Thank Sandy. He will be missed.
Condolences to his family and many friends.
Adrien


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Subject: RE: C/D Sales of Local Musicians
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 11:06 PM

Yes Adrien!
Charlie's Store


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