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Traditional Regional Christmas Carols

GUEST,George Frampton 14 Nov 12 - 07:39 AM
greg stephens 14 Nov 12 - 07:47 AM
maeve 14 Nov 12 - 07:58 AM
DMcG 14 Nov 12 - 08:06 AM
RTim 14 Nov 12 - 08:34 AM
GUEST,George Frampton 14 Nov 12 - 09:16 AM
Matthew Edwards 14 Nov 12 - 09:51 AM
GUEST,Derek Schofield 14 Nov 12 - 10:37 AM
RTim 14 Nov 12 - 10:38 AM
Matthew Edwards 14 Nov 12 - 11:13 AM
r.padgett 14 Nov 12 - 01:35 PM
GUEST,David Wrench. 19 Nov 12 - 09:14 AM
GUEST,PeterC 19 Nov 12 - 09:27 AM
ChrisJBrady 06 Dec 12 - 11:02 AM
ChrisJBrady 06 Dec 12 - 11:03 AM
Ross Campbell 06 Dec 12 - 10:53 PM
mg 07 Dec 12 - 04:01 AM
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Subject: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: GUEST,George Frampton
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 07:39 AM

I went to St Ives in Cornwall recently and came back with a CD of local Christmas carols. Whilst aware of those from Padstow (via the Veteran cassette), and Ian Russell's work in the Sheffield area, I wondered what other recordings there are on regional traditional carols? I definitely don't mean 'traditional' in the sense of the 'Nine Lessons and Carols' pap we hear year in year out!

Vic Gammon produced a cassette of Sussex carols, and the Thomas Clark Quire were provately recorded doinbg the same wirth carols from Kent.

Does anyone know of anything else from the UK beyond what is generally known?


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: greg stephens
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 07:47 AM

come to one of the PenkhulL pubs on Dec 17 and be amazed.(No, don't actually. This is a local place for local people)


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: maeve
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 07:58 AM

This looks interesting: The Sheffield Carols -Yorkshire Folk Arts- Patrons: Norma Waterson & Kate Rusby
"For detailed information, and access to a full library of recordings and publications, you can contact Village Carols, a non-profit organisation that exists to promote and record these carols. Village Carols publishes a number of excellent recordings from different carol traditions, and a selection of arrangements of tunes and words. They also organise a biennial festival: the next one is on Saturday 2 December 2006 at Grenoside Community Centre. Video films of previous festivals, including the special Millennium Festival at the Cutlers Hall, Sheffield, have been made by Garland Films in association with Village Carols, and are also available."

http://www.villagecarols.org.uk/
"Village Carols is a non-profitmaking organisation which exists to record and promote local carol singing traditions. Its main roles are undertaking fieldwork and research, organising the collection of source material, and promoting local carol singing traditions."


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: DMcG
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 08:06 AM

If you look through the Gardiner sections of the VWML at EFDSS there are carols from the southampton area, including some collected a few miles from where I live


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: RTim
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 08:34 AM

Carolyn Robson (of Craig Morgan Robson) recently ran (with two of her daughters) a one day session in Andover on Hampshire Carols that included several carols collected by Dr. Gardiner, including "Hark hark let us behold" collected from George Blake. This carol has been arranged by my wife (Jan Elliott) and she played Recorders on the version I recorded several years ago.

The are some very good carols collected in the area, particularly from James Lake of Dummer and there is also a choir from Winchester - Far From The Madding Crowd - who perform often locally.
Carolyn told me that there were 60 people at the Andover event, including Leader Eddie Upton (Bass) and Paul Hutchinson (on Band).

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: GUEST,George Frampton
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 09:16 AM

Thanks for reminding me, Tim.

Eddie Upton put out 'A West Country Christmas' with his Stanchester Quire some years ago. Very well-informed and interesting - not that I'd expect anything less from Eddie!


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 09:51 AM

In the North West of England Paul Guppy of the Gladly Solemn West Gallery choir and David Burbidge of Lakeland Voices have done a lot of work researching and singing carols from Lancashire and Cumbria. I don't know of any CDs, but I think that there are some performances on YouTube.

Ian Russell at Village Carols has done a lot to promote and support different local carol traditions; the Welsh plygain singing was featured at the Festival of Village Carols in 2008, while at the same Festival in 2006 we were treated to the Wexford carols by the traditional singers from Kilmore - both of these appear on DVDs issued by Garland films. Sain Records have published more recordings of traditional plygain singing.

Matthew

I'll check YouTube for any carols from the English North West, but I think Greg Stephens has also posted some of the Penkhull carols performances on YouTube too.


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 10:37 AM

The Village Carols Festival on 1 December 2012 is sold out. It features the Glen Rock Carollers from the USA who have a tradition of carols very similar to those in Sheffield. Google them! They have a CD.

The next issue of English Dance & Song magazine has an article on carols from Exmoor, and in recent years, there have also been articles on Odcombe in Somerset by Eddie Upton (Winter 2010).

Derek Schofield
Editor: EDS ... shamelessly plugging the magazine ...


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: RTim
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 10:38 AM

Sorry - got something wrong in my above note.
The Winchester Choir is - The Madding Crowd, led by Mike Bailey.
see: http://homepages.rya-online.net/mikebailey/

They also have a CD available.

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 11:13 AM

As Derek says this year's Festival of Village Carols in Grenoside features the welcome return of the Glen Rock Carolers from Pennsylvania who have preserved a unique style of performance since 1848. I'm really looking forward to meeting them again; but in the meantime here is a link to their website as a taste of what they do.

I've had a look for traditional carol performances on YouTube and started to create a playlist, mainly thanks to recordings made by David Burbidge. I'll keep on looking so I can add more in the future; here is the playlist of Traditional carols.

Matthew


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: r.padgett
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 01:35 PM

Full listing of Sheffield carols (to date, many other local carol sings to list still)see other thread on here

Dr Russell is yer man of course and he has his own Village carols as noted already in CD format

Sheffield and surrounds is the place to be at Christmas with a chaffeur, learn the songs by osmosis of course

Humble Swain is on at Dungworth's Royal Hotel hosted by Fay Hield and Jon Boden shortly too

Ray


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: GUEST,David Wrench.
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 09:14 AM

yes their are lots of people all over the UK actively seeking Community Intellectual Property in the form of local , traditional carols either from active singers , groups or from old private recordings.

i Am sure an over- arching organisation will arise to ensure the distribution, archiving and use of these fine local traditions....indeed a whole cultural 'industry' will arise to manifest these gems in locations they were neve r native to...by the quirk of friendship/ economic interest.

long may they thrive....go and attend a pub carol night...the finest and greatest are packed with welcoming local people...I've been in a 'folk worthies' trip to South Yorkshire   from Cornwall. a number of years ago and it was incredible.

Don't fill a CD with these , book a B&B and go along.

then think about where you live....'Carols Arise!'...not a lot of time left?


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 09:27 AM

Glos Christmas is now twelve months old and has quite a few Gloucestershire Carols, and is being added to all the time


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 11:02 AM

There's info. on other regional carol traditions including at Leigh on Sea in the South. See:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8418243.stm

The problem is that there are really two aspects to the term 'traditional carols.'

One is the usual sanitised Beeb version replicated across thousands of mainly Protestant churches and cathedrals around the world.

The other is the regional carols sung with gusto in the pubs and other social gatherings such as in Yorkshire and elsewhere and more connected to the local folk song tradition than the established church.


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 11:03 AM

Clicky here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8418243.stm


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 10:53 PM

Matthew Edwards mentioned the Gladly Solemn Sound, a Lancaster-based West Gallery choir.

Their annual Christmas concerts are coming up - I usually manage to get to one or other of them - dates and locations from their website follow:-

Sunday 16th December 2012, 7.30pm
St John the Evangelist Church,
North Road, Lancaster, LA1 1PA
Our annual Christmas Concert. Tickets are available on the door.

Thursday 20th December 2012, 8pm
Christ Church (The Shepherd's Church),
Over Wyresdale, Near Abbeystead, Lancashire
Our annual Wyresdale Christmas Concert. Admission is free but donations in aid of the upkeep of the church are welcome.

The weather can make the Abbeystead venue problematic (but very atmospheric!) Christ Church retains a small collection of instruments such as would have been used by the church band before the universal arrival of organs for musical accompaniment. They can usually be viewed during the interval.

Ross


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Subject: RE: Traditional Regional Christmas Carols
From: mg
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 04:01 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn1ByyGKJ3w

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and isn/t there something from Mousehole in Coenwall?


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