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Folk Songs That Are in Movies

Beer 22 Nov 12 - 11:53 PM
MGM·Lion 23 Nov 12 - 12:33 AM
GUEST,Mike Yates 23 Nov 12 - 04:08 AM
GUEST,Blandiver 23 Nov 12 - 05:18 AM
GUEST,Fred McCormick 23 Nov 12 - 06:11 AM
Rog Peek 23 Nov 12 - 06:23 AM
GUEST,Mike Yates 23 Nov 12 - 06:41 AM
GUEST,Fred McCormick 23 Nov 12 - 07:28 AM
Dave Sutherland 23 Nov 12 - 07:43 AM
Beer 23 Nov 12 - 10:28 AM
GUEST,jaze 23 Nov 12 - 11:26 AM
greg stephens 23 Nov 12 - 12:05 PM
GUEST,Phil B 23 Nov 12 - 01:03 PM
Phil Cooper 23 Nov 12 - 01:45 PM
Phil Cooper 23 Nov 12 - 01:52 PM
Rog Peek 23 Nov 12 - 01:56 PM
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Midchuck 23 Nov 12 - 02:27 PM
meself 23 Nov 12 - 02:57 PM
mayomick 23 Nov 12 - 02:58 PM
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Subject: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Beer
Date: 22 Nov 12 - 11:53 PM

Now lets not get into a debate as to what is folk music please. We all have are own opinions of this. Let us instead think of a movie we watched and were struck by a folk tune that was featured.
Here is my first contribution.
Adrien

http://youtu.be/-VNzh65tMdU


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 12:33 AM

The 'Willie·of·Winsbury/Fause·Foodrage' [whichever] tune had a peculiarly striking effect, played as a march by the brass band at the beginning of the final parade culminating in Sgt Howie's visit to The Wicker Man.

~M~


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Mike Yates
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 04:08 AM

There was an old British black & white movie (from the '40's?) which starred John Mills (I think). At the end of the film an unaccompanied voice started to sing "The Banks of Sweet Primroses". At least I think it was "The Banks of Sweet Primroses". It was a long time ago and my memory might be at fault here, though it was certainly an English folksong. At the time I had no idea why this song should have been sung, as it seemed to have no relationship to the film's story. Does anyone else remember this, and, if so, who sang the song?


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 05:18 AM

The Wicker Man is chock-full of folk songs, albeit perverted by the genius of Paul Giovanni and the 'group' Magnet (called Loadstone on some editions of the film) which featured the singing of Sheila Mackie and the fiddling of Ian Cutler (who still inhabits folkish realms in association with Dave Cousins of the Strawbs). TWM is a seminal inspiration on the current crop of 'weirdlore' folkies - indeed you're just as likely to hear Giovanni's tunes to Gently Johnny & Corn Riggs, as you are the traditional ones.   


Better still (in my view) is Pasolini's Canterbury Tales which features a collage of REAL folk songs (note: there is no debate about what Folk Songs are, only academic quibbling over the details) mixed with medieval music, all of which was assembled by Ennio Morricone. The film kicks off with Francis MacPeake's The Owld Piper. For a detailed account of the songs used in the film see:

http://anntheword.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/folk-songs-from-pasolinis-canterbury.html


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 06:11 AM

Mike, I think you're getting the song mixed up. There was a discussion on this board a while ago about a John Mills film called The Long Memory which closes with an unaccompanied voice singing Searching For Lambs.

http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=138938&messages=28


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Rog Peek
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 06:23 AM

'The Ballad of the Wild Rovers' in the film 'Wild Rovers' with William Holden and Ryan O'Neil. Lyrics here.


Rog


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Mike Yates
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 06:41 AM

Thanks Fred. Memory just isn't what it used to be!


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 07:28 AM

Memory? You've got me there. I'd quite forgotten what a memory was.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 07:43 AM

OK Fred how about this one that I can't remember; it's a black and white one too where the blacksmith who has been in a boxing match is on his way to collect his (losers) purse and he is singing "The Sweet Nightingale".
In one of Clint Eastwood's films he sings a version of "Sam Hall" and has nobody mentioned "Far From The Madding Crowd" yet?


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Beer
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 10:28 AM

Midnight Cowboy

http://youtu.be/8fwY3jGNsog


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,jaze
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 11:26 AM

Barbara Allen is sung in the movie " A Christmas Carol" starring Alistair Sim.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: greg stephens
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 12:05 PM

If we are having tunes as well I think Roger de Coverley is played for Fezziwig's ball in the Sim Christmas Carol(this is the tune specified by Dickens)


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Phil B
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 01:03 PM

Sure I've mentioned this before. Robert Shaw sings 'Spanish Ladies' as our heroes set off to hunt the great white Mackerell (Vicious Beast!) in Jaws. I can't verify this but was told that it was his idea in passing and that Spielberg kept it in. Anyone know about this? I'd love to think it was true.

The aforementioned Ian Cutler also appears with both 'Feast of Fiddles' each tour and his own original band, the 'Bully Wee Band', also do an annual reunion tour which I often guest on. He's a great fiddle player.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 01:45 PM

Barry Dransfield singing The Water is Wide in The Bounty. The Anthony Hopkins/Mel Gibson version.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 01:52 PM

Oh, there's also someone singing a bit of The Outlandish Knight in the W C Fields version of David Copperfield. You here the line "horses, where there stand thirty and three."


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Rog Peek
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 01:56 PM

If we can include shanties, a version of 'Heave Away, My Johnny' was devised by A.L.Lloyd for the 1956 film Moby Dick (one of my favourites). Sang as the ship sailed away from Nantucket(Youghal).

Rog


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 02:09 PM

Isn't Blood Red Roses in Moby Dick too?? Or did I just dream that??


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Midchuck
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 02:27 PM

If we can consider TV series as well as movies, Kris and I did a marathon viewing of two seasons of "Boardwalk Empire" on DVD a few weeks back. In the first season, there's a scene where the influential gangsters and politicians of Irish descent are having a very formal St. Patrick's Day dinner, and this one rotund chap gets up to sing. I thought, "Oh, God, here comes 'Danny Boy' again!" But he did a really beautiful rendition of Carrickfergus, solo and unaccompanied. Quite a surprise.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: meself
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 02:57 PM

Just watched an English movie about a psychopathic gangster-folksinger, called "Down Terrace". Bits of all kinds of folksongs in it.

Does raise a question in my mind, though: has anyone known any folkies who were professional criminals? I don't mean guys who cheated source-singers out of royalties or whatever, but out-and-out cut-throats? I mean, known personally. Somehow seems unlikely to me ....


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: mayomick
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 02:58 PM

Nora , the 2000 film about Nora Barnacle and her husband, James Joyce starring Ewan McGregor and Susan Lynch as the title character of Nora Barnacle.

They sing The Lass Of Aughrim with McGregor on guitar
here


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: mayomick
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 03:05 PM

Frank Patterson singing the same song in John Huston's adaption of Joyce's short story,The Dead :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1CP5Lz2iHE


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: mayomick
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 03:19 PM

This is from the blurb for the album released of the soundtrack of John John Schlesinger's 1967 adaptation of Thomas Hardy's Far From The Madding Crowd. I didn't know before looking it up just now that it was James Galway playing the flute .

"The FAR FROM THE MADDING CROWD soundtrack features Trevor Lucas (Fairport Convention) and Dave Swarbrick (Steeleye Span), and has been expanded to include all the dances and impromptu vocal numbers used as backgrounds in the film. Far From The Madding Crowd Soundtrack music CDs Also performing on the soundtrack are James Galway (flute), Isla Cameron, Julie Christie and Terence Stamp."


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Beer
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 03:36 PM

Those were beautiful mayomick.
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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 03:57 PM

Scarlet OHara (Vivian Liegh) sings a line from Alice Ben Bolt in Gone with the Wind.

Joe Nicholson.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 04:07 PM

In connection with this thread, I have refreshed a 2-month old thread I OP'd on an episode on tv in the Inspector George Gently series, featuring a folksinger who got murdered, with flashbacks of her singing in a club, which might relate to some points made here.

~M~


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 04:33 PM

If we're not too proud, we can find quite a few in O Brother Where Art Thou.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Beer
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 04:44 PM

That is a good one GUEST.
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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 05:03 PM

In Rio Grande the cavalrymen sing Bold fenian Men to Maureen O'Hara ( I think the cavalry might have been The sons of the Pioneers)

Some football players sing Bould Thaidy Quill in Young Cassidy.

Stefan Grossman plays Candyman in that film about Joe Hill.

n Michael Collins , Liam Neeson sings Skibereen - after a fashion. Frank Patterson sings The Last Rose of Summer.

In The Field - that guy that wrote Sullivans John.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Rog Peek
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 05:32 PM

I believe 'She Moved Through the Fair' was in 'Michael Collins'.

Rog


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 09:22 AM

The TV series Highlander had bits of Bonny Portmore in it once in awhile.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Bert
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 07:45 PM

I don't think that there was ever a movie made of Lionel Bart's Maggie May - Too bolshie - but it is practically all folk songs, tweaked a bit to fit the story.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 25 Nov 12 - 10:34 AM

Rog Peek. "I believe 'She Moved Through the Fair' was in 'Michael Collins'."

It was. Sung atrociously by Julia Roberts.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Mark Ross
Date: 25 Nov 12 - 01:30 PM

In the HBO show DEADWOOD in one episode Ian MacShane does a great rendition of THE UNFORTUNATE RAKE.

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Fingers Sutton
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 11:22 PM

the one that got me was the shanty 'They Call me Hanging Johnny' in the film Billy Budd. The melancholy sadness of the tune fitted right into the meaning of the film.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Jon Dudley
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 02:03 AM

Frank Warner in the movie 'The Run of The Arrow' with Rod Steiger, sings 'The Old Unreconstructed Rebel'...a singer AND a song!

http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/317403/Run-Of-The-Arrow-Movie-Clip-Rebel-Soldier.html


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 02:52 AM

The finest use of traditional songs I can ever remember was John Tams' (?) soundtrack for 'Ill Fares the Land', the drama documentary on the evacuation of the Scottish island of St Kilda. Unfortunately it is virtually impossible to obtain a copy of this superb film - I've tried, everywhere, including the British Film Institute, which told us that their single copy cost them an arm and a leg and they didn't make copies - ah well!!.
Pier Paolo Pasolin's 'Arabian Nights', 'Canterbury Tales' and 'The Decameron' all included field recordings of traditional singers, some of them from the BBC's 'mopping up campaign' from the 1950s.
The John Mills film which includes 'The Banks of Sweet Primroses'      Mike Yates is referring to above is 'The Long Memory' (1952). There was a discussion about the authenticity of the singing on this forum a few years ago.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Rog Peek
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 03:09 AM

I recently watched the film 'Billy Two Hats'in which there is a scene near the end of the film where the character played by Gregory Peck is pinned down by indians beneath a wagon. At one point he is heard to sing a couple of lines of something, anyone know what it was?

Rog


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 05:11 AM

Two verses of "Rose of Alabama", one sung by a dying Confederate soldier and the other later in the film by a bar room girl, are in "The Outlaw Josey Wales"

DC


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 06:51 AM

Has anyone in this thread mentioned the classic instance of the film taking its title from one that I know has been dealt with in another thread? ~~ "I Know Where I'm Going"; not just the title song, sung by choir over the credits, but Roger Livesey's use of "Ho-Ro My Nutbrown Maiden" to urge his suit with Wendy Hiller.

I don't think the classic instance of Jean Simmons performing "Farewell He" [aka "Let Him Go Let Him Tarry"] in "The Way To The Stars", to a canteenful of troops who unaccountably knew the chorus, has occurred above either; tho that too has occurred on previous threads.

But maybe I just missed them?

~M~


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Rog Peek
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 06:55 AM

'Magdalane Sisters' opens with 'Well Below the Valley' sung I believe by Sean Mackin.

Rog


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Lavengro
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 09:16 AM

The Quiet Man-Wild Colonial Boy etc.

And although this might be cheating a little as it is basically (to me anyways) a film about music- Searching for the Wrong-Eyed Jesus. What a soundtrack!


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Ron Davies
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 12:30 PM

I'm pretty sure, though not completely, that a version of "Green Grow the Lilacs" is in a movie--I think it's "Old Yeller".    Or some other Disney movie.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Lavengro
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 12:33 PM

And how did I forget Down in the Valley (Birmingham Jail) from Stir Crazy!


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,raymond greenoaken
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 02:22 PM

My memory may be faulty here, but I think Mick Jagger sang a bit of The Wild Colonial Boy in Ned Kelly.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 02:56 PM

Red River Valley and Going Down The Road Feeling Bad both occur in John Ford's 'The Grapes Of Wrath'.

And another which gives its title to the film and runs thematically thru it - Ford's "My Darling Clementine".

~M~


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 04:08 PM

In 1946 (or 47) I was reluctantly dragged along by my mother on a shopping trip to buy new shoes,a hated task for a 13 year old boy. The reward was that we would go to the pictures afterwards. The film we eventually saw was 'Smoky', a story of the 'Black Beauty' type about a horse saved from ill-treatment. Fred MacMurray and Ann Baxter were the leads, with Bruce Cabot as the baddie. There was also a singing, guitar playing, ranch hand character called Bill, or maybe Will. This was Burl Ives in his movie debut. He sang Streets of Laredo, Down in the Vally, Woolie Boogie Bee, and Blue Tail Fly. I was entranced by this, especially the Streets of Laredo song. All the way home I kept on talking about this huge man with the lilting voice, and the 'Great songs' that he sang. I wanted to learn them, and others like them, to add to my store of Frank Crumit songs. From that day on I searched for folk songs in libraries, music shops, and scoured the pages of the Radio Times for notice of anything with the tag 'folk' attached. I thought that this music only existed in America, but came across some broadcasts of English folk songs, which were sung in such a poncy manner I couldn't give them credence. Burl Ives might be considered very smooth nowadays, but compared with the 'classical' style of the recordings of the time his voice sounded earthy and natural. I learned as much as I could about this music, and because of an interest in jazz at the same time I got to know about the blues, and heard the majestic voice of Bessie Smith. In 1951 I was in the army, and there heard an old soldier sing McCafferty, and D Day Dodgers. Mr Ives and my old Battery Sgt Major turned my life around as far as music was concerned. I was a skiffler in the 50's (many thanks Lonnie) and in 1964 became a professional folk singer and have been ever since. That's 50 years next year.Not bad for a bloke who can't play guitar. I'm approaching 80 now, and once or twice have had thoughts of giving up for health reasons. Now I'm determined not to give up, but to sing until I'm no longer able. It has been a wonderful life. The music has taken me to far places and introduced me to some of the best people I've ever known. And all because I needed a new pair of shoes. I met Burl Ives back in the 1970's and was able to thank him for the gift he gave me. I'm still grateful.
PS.Sorry if this has run on. I didn't mean to do an autobiography
PPS. Just remembered something else. Last year Smoky played on one of the cable channels. Watching it I noticed that Burl and the ranch hands who joined in the chorus of Blue Tail Fly sang 'Boss' instead of the usual 'Master'. A bit of early PC perhaps?


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST,Mr Red resting his feet from a ceilidh last
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 08:06 AM

"Cheerful Wedding for a Wedding" - most of the music comes from a ceilidh band called Panjandrum. They told us last night (at the ceilidh) how they spent 8 hours playing just on bit of music.
They played the music for dancing last night.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 12:31 PM

No response to meself's question: ....has anyone known any folkies who were professional criminals? I don't mean guys who cheated source-singers out of royalties or whatever, but out-and-out cut-throats? I mean, known personally. Somehow seems unlikely to me ..... Doesn't seem the least bit unlikely to me. But I can't call anyone to mind.
........
Turning to the thread theme, there's the scene in Dawn Patrol (Erroll Flynn and David Niven) where the RFC airmen sing Hurrah for the Next Man That Dies round the piano in the mess.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 02:43 PM

Some really good fo'castle songs and shanties in the film "Master and Commander". Pretty well sung and remarkably good continuity.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Wotcha
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 05:04 PM

"On Raglan Road" just before Brendan Gleeson jumps to a conclusion in the film "In Bruges" Multiple renditions, ad naseum, in the Gregory Peck movie "On the Beach."

Cheers,

Wotcha


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Wotcha
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 05:06 PM

Multiple renditions of "Waltzing Matilda" .... that would be ...

Cheers,

Wotcha


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 Feb 13 - 11:37 AM

Cheerful Weather for a Wedding typo.


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Subject: RE: Folk Songs That Are in Movies
From: Beer
Date: 23 Mar 13 - 08:35 PM

The movie "Australia" has a son by Sit Elton John that is very good. maybe viewing the movie first makes it even better.
Ad.

http://youtu.be/1FScyt9Ub2Y


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