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Origins: New Child Ballad Site

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Steve Gardham 22 Jan 13 - 10:35 AM
Barb'ry 22 Jan 13 - 06:10 AM
GUEST,JHW 22 Jan 13 - 06:01 AM
Anne Neilson 22 Jan 13 - 03:34 AM
Richie 21 Jan 13 - 10:34 PM
Bill D 24 Nov 12 - 08:11 PM
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Richie 24 Nov 12 - 05:44 PM
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Richie 24 Nov 12 - 12:16 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 24 Nov 12 - 11:51 AM
GUEST,maryrrf 24 Nov 12 - 11:24 AM
Steve Gardham 24 Nov 12 - 09:27 AM
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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 22 Jan 13 - 10:35 AM

Yes, well done, Richie. I didn't realise you were going to tackle the British versions also. You might like to have a look at the Folkopedia Child Ballads section. My own crits are on there somewhere hidden behind the texts. You need to get full access by contacting Johnny Adams who oversees it. What are you intending to do with the many Child ballads not found in oral tradition? The many literary imitations? Those imitations that entered oral tradition briefly in recent times (past 2 centuries)?


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: Barb'ry
Date: 22 Jan 13 - 06:10 AM

What fantastic work - thank you so much!


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: GUEST,JHW
Date: 22 Jan 13 - 06:01 AM

Wow. Bookmarked!


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: Anne Neilson
Date: 22 Jan 13 - 03:34 AM

Great resource -- thank you so much for what must have been a tremendous labour of love!


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: Richie
Date: 21 Jan 13 - 10:34 PM

Hi,

I've completed the rough drafts of Recordings and Info pages:

http://bluegrassmessengers.com/recordings--info-278-the-farmers-curst-wife.aspx

Child's Narrative, and texts endnotes, and Additions and Corrections are roughed in.

Getting some books together to do the US versions and then finally the English Scottish versions. The last part will be adding Bronson's Tunes in the Sheet music section.

Suggestions, proof reading and texts are welcome,

Richie


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 08:11 PM

Well... I can't get it to display properly in the Opera browser....I get the 'menu' on the left, but no data about each one on the right.
It does seem ok in Firefox.. (and I never use IE)


I will explore more next week.


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 06:08 PM

Good job!


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: Richie
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 05:44 PM

Hi,

Please send any mistakes or typos to my email: RichieMatt@aol.com

I've started proofing and there are mistakes.

Some of the attached articles have not been proofed and are long and cumbersome.

I've also put a few related articles here:
http://bluegrassmessengers.com/articles--books-about-child-and-child-ballads.aspx

There are about 30 articles and several books in different places, for example Coffin's: http://bluegrassmessengers.com/a-critical-biographical-study.aspx

So the ballads were only a part of what I've doen this year,

R-


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 03:55 PM

Wonderful, Richie. Thanks for your many efforts!


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: GUEST,John Foxen
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 02:11 PM

Congratulation Richie, you've obviously sweated blood over this. What a wonderful thing to have done.
I've only had time for a quick look but I did notice a typo. Is there any way that the rest of us can help you with the massive task of proofreading? For example, could we email you errors if we see them or would this be counterproductive? We wouldn't want you swamped and discouraged by a mass of pernickety emails.


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: Richie
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 12:16 PM

Thanks everyone,

I've started proofing it and will be buying some books to add versions. There's still more to add but at least all 305 ballads are on there.

I'll have a scanner soon which will make it better.

Mudcat is truly one of the great resources for traditional music,

Thanks again,

Richie


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 11:51 AM

Richie

It's been 13 months (more or less) since you started on this and you've brought it to a great conclusion. I can only echo the others with my congratulations and thanks for the work you've put in.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: GUEST,maryrrf
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 11:24 AM

This is a great resource and, like others, I marvel at the time it must have taken you to put it together. Thank you!


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 09:27 AM

Well done, Richie! A very welcome and useful addition to the field. Hopefully it will also dispel a few myths. Any archive like this also helps to highlight those ballads with dubious provenances.


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: GUEST,SteveT
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 04:44 AM

A brilliant piece of work. I can't begin to think how long it must have taken you to compile. Many thanks for sharing this.


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Subject: RE: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 01:16 AM

Gee, Richie, you must have put an unbelievable amount of time into this. It looks wonderful, and it's easy and fun to read.

The little "plus" signs on the menu are a bit difficult to deal with. They're too small to hit with accuracy, and they expand very slowly.

-Joe-


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Subject: Origins: New Child Ballad Site
From: Richie
Date: 24 Nov 12 - 12:27 AM

Hi,

I've put the 305 Child Balladson my site:

http://bluegrassmessengers.com/the-305-child-ballads.aspx

I have Child's entire work on mow, not proofed.

Each ballad is/will be presented with additional versions from the original sources (when possible) and there will be:

1) Child's Narrative
2) Footnotes (more properly added at the end)
3) Kittredge's Brief, a short summary of each ballad from Kittredge,
4) Corrections and Additions for each ballad,
5) End-notes, the corrections of ballad text
6) Additional ballad texts (from Corrections and Additions)
7) Articles about the ballads from other sources

Attached Pages:
Recordings & Information (with Roud Index; and articles)
Sheet music (Bronson editions)
US & Canadian versions (with additional ballads not found by Child)
English & Other Versions (with additional ballads not found by Child)

I've done some of the research on Mudcat, special thanks to all who have contributed.

This is a work in progress- suggestions and corrections are appreciated. I realized it's a bit difficult to naviagate due to the operating system. I can use links to imptrove that.

Comments? It's taken me almost a year so far- lots of pages and a start!

Richie


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