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Ken Doddie to have a big day!

*#1 PEASANT* 26 Nov 12 - 06:15 PM
GUEST,Guest 26 Nov 12 - 08:48 PM
SteveMansfield 27 Nov 12 - 05:17 AM
GUEST,Blandiver 27 Nov 12 - 06:45 AM
Northerner 27 Nov 12 - 07:04 AM
*#1 PEASANT* 27 Nov 12 - 07:48 AM
jonesnudger 27 Nov 12 - 10:24 AM
Musket 27 Nov 12 - 12:29 PM
GUEST,Big bamboo 27 Nov 12 - 12:50 PM
*#1 PEASANT* 27 Nov 12 - 12:53 PM
GUEST,Blandiver 27 Nov 12 - 01:43 PM
GUEST,sturgeon 27 Nov 12 - 02:02 PM
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Subject: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 26 Nov 12 - 06:15 PM

Doddie not dead at all he is in the spot light tickle, tickle, tickle

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2012/11/15/ken-dodd-to-lead-festive-fun-at-echo-carol-concert-100252-32235117/

doddies big day

Conrad


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 26 Nov 12 - 08:48 PM

Did he?

No, Doddie!

Got Folk All To Do with Folk Music But Still Funny - Hey Ho!


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 05:17 AM

The idea that Ken Dodd is 'funny' is conclusive proof that humour, rather like music, is a highly subjective taste.

You can't *make* yourself like a particular artist or genre, just as you can't *make* yourself find a particular comedian funny.

Most of Dodd's jokes and routines are considerably older than some things people revere as 'traditional', but that's about the only relevance to Mudcat that I can see ...


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 06:45 AM

I saw Ken Dodd at the Marine Hall in Fleetwood back in December 2008. We were treated to ghastly jokes, racism, dancing kids dressed as 'Diddy Men', an entertainer-cum-vocalist, mawkish songs, and (best of all) a Parade of Vintage Comedians with aforementioned 'Diddy Men' wearing grotesque oversized papiermache heads that were supposed to resemble Arthur Askey, Max Miller, Max Wall, Jimmy Clitheroe, Tommy Trinder et al - but if we hadn't been told there'd have been no guessing. I really wish I'd had my camera for that bit, but the rest of it was absolute lowest-common possible denominator common-minded crap.

After 30-minutes even the ironic novelty wore off; after 40 minutes my mother-in-law turned to me and said: 'Sean - you stopped laughing ten minutes ago.' After 1 hour I'd lost the will to live; after 2, I regained my will to live in fear that DVT was setting in. After 3 my wife and I ran home in a state of gibbering hysterics entirely unable to face THE SECOND HALF which (according to my more stoic in-laws) went on for another FOUR HOURS.   

On the bright side, if hell there is, I do not longer fear it - an eternity of torment will be nothing compared to three hours of Ken Dodd and his fecking 'Happiness' show...

It's right what they say though - you never remember a single gag afterwards. Actually, I remember one about someone catching a glass eye, but I rather wish I didn't...

It was my idea too, we even bought the tickets as part of my in-laws Xmas present - and here I am on Boxing Day that year posing beside the poster actually looking forward to it: Lamb to the Slaughter : Fleetwood Marine Hall, Boxing Day 2008


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: Northerner
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 07:04 AM

I saw him 50 years ago while on holiday by the seaside. Don't remember anything about it though. Fashions in entertainment were different in the 1950s.


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 07:48 AM

absolute lowest-common possible denominator common-minded crap.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! F O L K
was often described thusly.....

I post on Dodd from time to time as he influenced me via television in england in the 60s

Conrad


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: jonesnudger
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 10:24 AM

As I and others suspect this country has lost it's sense of humour.


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: Musket
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:29 PM

He gives value for money, (unless you are a tax man...)

Get him on stage at 7.30pm and he is still there at midnight. Oh, and so long as your funny bone has not been removed, you will be loving every minute of it. He is perhaps one of the last of those who did their apprenticeship in the music hall tradition. He was a good singer in his day too. Not many still on stage who did the Empire & Esseldo circuits...

That alone makes him of interest to those who value heritage, or folk as it is sometimes called...


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: GUEST,Big bamboo
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:50 PM

I can't find anything in his show worth going to see. He never made me laugh and the only positive about his shows I can trawl up is the bag of Marshmallows that fell into my lap aged 7 at a Christmas panto in the early 1970s. No Thank YOU!


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 12:53 PM

He is a national treasure and more laughs than say ....the queen

Conrad


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 01:43 PM

That alone makes him of interest to those who value heritage, or folk as it is sometimes called...

Heritage is dead culture. If folk is dead culture then I've no interest in it at all, but fortunately it isn't; not for me anyway, for folk springs eternal.


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: GUEST,sturgeon
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 02:02 PM

In his excellent book 'Tickling the English' the Irish comic Dara Ó Briain describes how his enjoyment of his UK tour was somewhat diminished by his discovery, at various venues, that Ken Dodd had been on stage for four or five hours in the days before Dara appeared to do his own gig (which was two hours maximum).

In the end he bites the bullet and goes to see Dodd perform, expecting Ken to meet all the standard, old-fashioned criteria of British comedy (racism, sexism, intolerance, preying on the disadvantaged, etc.).

Much to his own disbelief, he finds himself staying the course of the whole Dodd five-hour experience, goes back to his digs crippled with laughter and fully aware that Dodd not only has no interest in belittling others, but is, as he's always been, a comic genius.


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Subject: RE: Ken Doddie to have a big day!
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 02:57 PM

He did a whole bit on immigration when we saw him - and the sexism was implicit throughout. It was pretty grim stuff - threadbare 60s throwback light entertainment. But otherwise, a good clean family show. I'm sure people equate this with talent, but we found it witless in the extreme.


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