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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Dec 12 - 08:18 PM Hey, Shane has had ambitions ever since he was 8 or 10 to be a Heavy Metal Rock God and play incredible screaming guitar solos and "service" hordes of groupies after every show...but all he can do to this day is play...air guitar. He's not bad, though, as air guitarists go. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: gnu Date: 07 Dec 12 - 07:45 PM Bobert... I bet you wouldn't shoot pool or throw darts for money with me either. Hahahahaaa. Seriously, I was only ever "good" on Rhan. As much as Rhan is shit on above and below the line, Rhan is GOOD when it is good and I am proud to say I once was beyond good. I tuly am sad I lost the ability due to injury and disease. Bones, strings, whistles... nah... I miss my Bodhrans. Terribly so. I even miss playing cardboard boxes and plastic gas cans and beer bottles and pots and pans with my ciapan (tipper)... and beer cans?!... well, that was a treat for everyone that saw and heard what I could do with an empty beer can if I do say so myself... and I do. Sigh... sorry. Just feeling sorry for myself. Pathetic. For all and sundry... make as much music as you can EVERY day that you can... it's a treasure. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Dec 12 - 07:13 PM Ooops. Sorry. It's the right hand I get the nails done on. Yes, I play right-handed like most people do. I do use the thumb and three fingers when picking...depending on the picking pattern. Some patterns only require the thumb and 2 fingers. Thumb is for alternating base, naturally. The 3 treble strings can be played using either 2 fingers...or 3. If you use 3, then the ring finger takes the 1st string. This is useful in certain picking patterns. Thumbnail is great for long strums too. Carter picking can be done with thumb and 2 fingers. Fingers do the strums in that case, brushing forward and back, thumb does the base. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 07 Dec 12 - 07:01 PM I didn't realize you played leftie, LH??? I woulda sworn I saw a clip of you playin' right hand geetar??? Why all 4... You pick with all four fingers??? Plus thumb... I mean, Son House ysed to do it but I ain't seen anyone do it since... I am impressed if you do... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Dec 12 - 06:49 PM Henry - Yes, you can do the acrylic powder and accelerator thing at home. I know one folk musician who's been doing his own nails that way for years. I guess it might take some practice to get it right, though...a few trial runs. I just get the Vietnamese guys (or girls) to do it over at the local "Le Nails" for about $4 per nail, and I need 4 nails done on the left hand only. For some reason it's always Vietnamese staff in those places. I have no idea why, but they must have a lot of schools for it in Vietnam or something. One thing is, you have to work quickly with the stuff after it hits the liquid accelerator. You've got maybe 20 seconds to spread it evenly over the nail before it starts to set up. Oh, and you also have to clean the nails with alcohol before applying it (to remove any natural oils) and then sand them lightly with a fine grit sanding pad or sanding wheel on Dremel Moto-tool, so that the acrylic will adhere well to the nail's surface after it hardens. If this isn't done, it can tend to lift off the nails at some point. I use a Dremel tool with a sander attachment on it about once a week to sand them back at the front as they keep growing out and getting longer. It takes too long filing them by hand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: frogprince Date: 07 Dec 12 - 06:30 PM "pocket watch sent to me from NY by a buddy for free and I think it's worth far more than any amount of $." I just noticed an echo here. Actually my deal was, I paid two bits or some such for a non-running old pocket watch with no crystal to put in still life photos. Then some crazy guy in NY asked about buying it for parts. Instead he got it all fixed up, and sent it back with a great old mellow chunky chain. I've found a couple of excuses to wear it for special occasions, with a vest my current lover made for me. I don't know that I'm as attached to my watch as gnu is to his, though; I might consider letting mine go for an even million bucks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 07 Dec 12 - 06:27 PM Yeah, yeah, yeah... It's always the "awww, shucks, I don't play very well" guy at the party who blows the doors out with his playin'... Ya' ain't suckin' ,me into that trap, gn-ze... Me??? I like my picks and I like my un-picks... It all depends on the song and what sound I want... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: gnu Date: 07 Dec 12 - 06:07 PM Indie... hahahahhaa! The nail polish and such strengtheners never worked for me. I have extremely soft nails. The only ones that are "standard human strength" naila are those that I damaged violently while working and that is due to the reaction to such trauma because I have mild psorisis. That stuff just made using picks a chore when I had to and made pain when I did mess up a nail. Kinda like drivin a 4X4 in the backwoods... ya go where a regular truck won't go so, when ya do get stuck, ya REALLY get stuck. But, yeah, pickin with natural nails, painted or not, beats picks anyday. Regular disclaimer... I was not ever a good player in the LEAST! Nor I am anywhere near qualified to comment on such matters. I sounded okay in the kitchen when everyone was under the inluence. Well, at least when *I* was. Maybe when the others told me I was entertaining they were just being polite, eh? >;-) (That includes YOU, buddy... the last person that ever heard me strum a string... you know who you are. When you said here in Mudcat you enjoyed it, my heart soared. Thanks again. If you ever drop in again, I'll have a go on yer geetar fer old time's sake. But, ya gotta bring that there good whiskey again. I still have the glasses... thanks.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 07 Dec 12 - 05:26 PM LOL, Guest... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: GUEST,Indiana guest Date: 07 Dec 12 - 09:07 AM I heard a quote recently that applies to this thread: "I started playing guitar to meet girls and wound up talking to middle aged men about their fingernails" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 07 Dec 12 - 08:49 AM I do man's work, too, krinkx... I mean, serious man's work... The nail doesn't have anything to do with it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 07 Dec 12 - 06:55 AM What about what LH does? I'd rather not have fake nails. I have to do man's work. I don't want to worry about breaking a nail. I already worry enough about getting a run in my stockings. =(:-( °) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 06 Dec 12 - 09:07 PM Not really, krinkx... I mean, $3 a pop ain't gonna break ya... BTW, if you leave a $2 tip then next time you go to get a nail them Vietnamese gals will be all over doin' yer nail... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 06 Dec 12 - 09:01 PM Can you do this at home? =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: mayomick Date: 06 Dec 12 - 04:53 PM Makes sense.You don't have to pay the nail bar royalties that way either. I might try to get them put a little semi-quaver on mine all the same . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 06 Dec 12 - 04:41 PM I don't want folks to know that I have a fake nail so I leave it natural... Keeps 'um guessin' how I get that sound outta what appears to be "all natural"... I mean, I don't mind sharing it here with other musicians but I'd never announce it to an audience... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Dec 12 - 04:20 PM I prefer the kind that look "natural". I guess if you were a Scot, you could even get them in plaid. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: mayomick Date: 06 Dec 12 - 04:13 PM I've been looking through a list of nail designs Philly nails, Jackson Pollock nails, Japanese manga , Jack of Clubs , Art Deco Any of you have any preferences ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 06 Dec 12 - 03:24 PM In other words, you have an unbreakable pick... I call mine "The Hammer"... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Dec 12 - 01:00 PM It's not a false nail that I use. It's a layer of acrylic put on top of the existing nail. The acrylic is a white powder in a little jar. It is applied by a brush that is dipped into a clear chemical liquid (acetone?). This turns the acrylic powder briefly into a gloppy clear viscous semi-liquid that is quickly spread on the nail, using the brush. It is spread out in a even layer, about a millimeter thick, on top of the entire nail. It begins to harden within less than 30 seconds, and sets up in about a minute, I'd say. It is then sanded and filed lightly to the final shape. What you have then is a heavily armoured nail that is virtually unbreakable under normal circumstances, and works great to play the guitar. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: mayomick Date: 06 Dec 12 - 12:38 PM Thanks for the info on the false nails .It had never crossed my mind before reading this thread. My index finger nail is pretty strong , but if it ever breaks awkwardly I'll know what to do . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 05 Dec 12 - 06:59 PM I use metal thumbpicks. You can bend them to fit better. And they don't break. I used to tape plastic fingerpicks on. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Dec 12 - 06:56 PM Yup, that's the truth, gnu. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: gnu Date: 05 Dec 12 - 05:49 PM LH... "I used to use thumbpicks, but I found that they become uncomfortable and they tend to slip out of position sometimes." Sucks, eh? I used to tape the buggers on. Not just on the thumb but I used to also file them to get them just right and that was tricky and rather tedious and frustrating... thank goodness I got arthritis and had to sell my strings. Hey, if ya don't laff, ya cry, eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:14 AM You, sir, have a prurient imagination. For shame! Say 50 Hail Chongos immediately to absolve your sins. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:09 AM That's disgusting =(:-( D) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:06 AM I've worked out a special set of exercises for strengthening the middle finger. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:38 PM JtS, Thanks... I'll call them... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:37 PM My picking style is basically "claw hammer" but it has a number of twists... The only time I need the nail is if I am either strumming or alternating claw-hammer with accented down strokes (strum)... Other than that it's a thumb pick (plastic) and two finger picks (plastic on forefinger and metal on middle finger)... And, yes, fake nails allow the first two of those styles without any picks at all... Been getting just the forefinger done for about the last 20 or so years... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Dec 12 - 04:35 PM I used to use thumbpicks, but I found that they become uncomfortable and they tend to slip out of position sometimes. The armoured nail method is more reliable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 04 Dec 12 - 04:30 PM Some players cut their nails at a slant, with the corner towards the thumb down low and the corner closer to the pinkie up high. Then they can use either the soft part of their fingertip or the part with the nail behind it to hit the string. I've tried it, and it works, but I'm not dedicated enough to get really good at it. It's called the 'flesh and nail' method. When I saw Martin Wyndham Read using a thumbpick, I knew in my heart that was the method for me. ======== Pete, I meant do an exorcism to get the bad 60's karma out of the clock, not out of the P-vine. P-vine probably wasn't even born yet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 04 Dec 12 - 01:19 PM Do you wear a thumbpick, bobette? =(:-( o) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: olddude Date: 04 Dec 12 - 01:12 PM I can't pick with nails I cut them down to nothing. They catch on the strings it is just a self taught thing. I do everything wrong on the guitar but I have fun. My roommate in college had one nail that was like a spear .. but he could cook on the guitar and so can Bobster |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 04 Dec 12 - 01:09 PM ENERGY ALTERNATIVES 6620 W W T HARRIS BLVD - Map CHARLOTTE, NC 28269 Phone: 704.598.8787 Fax: 704.598.7511 Ridgeway dealer in Charlotte. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Pete Jennings Date: 04 Dec 12 - 01:02 PM He wouldn't do that, Leeneia, he loves her! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 04 Dec 12 - 01:01 PM Thanks for the info, Little Hawk. ========== Oh, gee. Bobert. I didn't know the clock was "60's looking." I can see how that would evoke bad vibes. For me, a 60's look brings back memories of trudging to school in bitter cold, of having to listen to pipe organ on dreary Sunday mornings, of the Kennedy asassination, of early Beatles sounding like cicadas.... arrgh! If the P-vine keeps the clock, maybe you could do some kind of exorcism. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Dec 12 - 11:29 AM Yes, leeneia, I started doing that a few years back, after seeing another guitarist who was using the acrylic nails. They work wonderfully. You can not only pick with them, you can also "brush" (sweep forward across the strings) with them, and they won't break. They have been a huge asset to my guitar playing. I have to get "fills" put in at the back about every 6 weeks as the nail grows out, and it only costs $15 to do 4 nails on the right hand. A bargain. I'll never go back to using uncoated nails. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 04 Dec 12 - 08:23 AM Classical guitar thing. Rareified atmospere. =(:-( 0) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 04 Dec 12 - 08:19 AM I had a guitar lesson (one-off, done for charity) from a guy who would go to the nail parlor and have long, strong acrylic nails put on his right hand. For picking. Apparently it's pretty normal among serious finger-pickers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: mayomick Date: 04 Dec 12 - 08:01 AM Bobert.Were you serious about getting a new nail put on your picking finger? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 03 Dec 12 - 06:59 PM When I was briefly doing maintenance in 1971 at a high rise building in Arlington, Va. I spied a 1953 Jaguar 120S roadster in a parking garage that was covered in a couple years worth of dust... Found out who owned it and bought it for $600 (good money back then), had it towed to my house, spent the next couple weeks workin' on it (yes, rebuilding the SU carbs) and sold it for $2500 (gooder money back then)... Of course, that car would bring at least $200,000 today but, hey??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: gnu Date: 03 Dec 12 - 06:46 PM I got a siver Illinois 17 jewel railroad pocket watch sent to me from NY by a buddy for free and I think it's worth far more than any amount of $. Now... THAT THERE is a "find"! Thanks, Dan. I haven't showed it off yet. I am waiting for a special occasion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 03 Dec 12 - 06:41 PM I can't beat that. Bought a 50's German 35mm camera. $10. Sold for $150. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: olddude Date: 03 Dec 12 - 06:26 PM My biggest score was a painting for 50 cents in a fea market, sold it for 2800 bucks it was a well listed artist |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 03 Dec 12 - 06:10 PM It happens. I got buyin' and sellin' in the blood. I drag junk home and sell it. Crap out of the neighbor's junk pile. I'm a regular Fred Sanford. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: gnu Date: 03 Dec 12 - 06:03 PM "He drove... I rode"... oh dear. Hank... people pay you more money than you sak for? You must have a big clock. And bigs balls if you expect me to believe that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 03 Dec 12 - 05:44 PM Old electric organs are harder to get rid of then old girl-friends... Good work, Krinkx... No lemon oil for me... Might as well just spray it down with WD40 thsn to use that junk on good wood... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 03 Dec 12 - 05:38 PM Bought a crappy 60's Magnus Prelude organ for $25 at a pawn shop. Sat around the house gathering dust for years. Housemate said it was unplayable. Slathered every inch of it with lemon oil. Put it up for sale for $50. First person to come look at it squealed with delight and said it was so beautiful., Gave me $60. Said to keep the change. True story. =(:-( )) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Henry Krinkle Date: 03 Dec 12 - 05:22 PM Lemon oil works for me. I use it on fingerboards, tolex, wood, anything. It only has to look good long enough for me to get their money. About 5 minutes or less. =(:-( D) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Yet another wacky Bobert story... From: Bobert Date: 03 Dec 12 - 05:16 PM If I thought I could get $800 for it I'd spend a weekend getting it going and cleaning it up... Lemon oil??? Nah... I use real furniture polish on wood... We have nothing but antiques and know how to make it look as good as it can look... Thanks, Chongz, but cut and paste is above my pay grade... B~ |
