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BS: 2012 Corruption Index

Ed T 05 Dec 12 - 04:48 PM
Bobert 05 Dec 12 - 05:16 PM
Ed T 05 Dec 12 - 05:21 PM
Fossil 05 Dec 12 - 06:11 PM
GUEST,DrWord 05 Dec 12 - 06:27 PM
GUEST,999 06 Dec 12 - 09:20 AM
GUEST,999 06 Dec 12 - 09:25 AM
Little Hawk 06 Dec 12 - 12:15 PM
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Jack Campin 06 Dec 12 - 01:28 PM
Jack the Sailor 06 Dec 12 - 05:42 PM
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Subject: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: Ed T
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 04:48 PM

Hopw does your country rate in Transparency International's index, released today?



Corruption Perceptions Index 2012


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 05:16 PM

US at #19???

Hmmmmmmm??? Who did they pay to get the high a rating???

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: Ed T
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 05:21 PM

There is also additional information /perspectives on this site, if you fish around- Including this one, titled "Are women leaders less corrupt? No, but they shake things up"

Impacts of female leaders


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: Fossil
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 06:11 PM

NZ first equal! Hmmm!

Our problem here isn't corruption, it's sheer official incompetence, compounded by the ruling National Party's devotion to laissez-faire economics and the power of the "free" (yeah,right!) market.

But interesting to note that there seems to be a pretty good inverse correlation between a country's performance through the recent worldwide economic turbulence and its perceived level of official corruption. I mean, the less corruption, the better they do...

Discuss, please!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: GUEST,DrWord
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 06:27 PM

Note that the report was about how various countries are perceived.

Canada, for instance, is in the top 10 [i.e., least corrupt] in public perception. In recent weeks, at least five Canadian city mayors have resigned or been convicted . . . perhaps fraudsters here are more sophisticated?
ennyway . . .yeah, fossil, there's certainly lots of grist for BS mill here below the line.

keep on pickin'
dennis


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 09:20 AM

The Montreal, Laval and Mascouche mayors resigned. I wasn't aware of the other two, DrWord.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 09:25 AM

Sorry about the way that sounds. I don't doubt it.

Our perceptions of what constitutes corruption is quite different in Quebec. A five thousand dollar hunting trip with expenses paid is seen as a normal way of doing business. There are receipts connected with that--and certain tax benefits to the folks who pay the bill to attract business. Envelopes with $100,000 cash in them are perceived to be a slightly different story.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 12:15 PM

At the very bottom of the list: Afghanistan.

18th from the bottom (out of 174 nations): Iraq.

Isn't it wonderful what the War on Terror has accomplished in terms of nation-building?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 01:11 PM

Yeah. However, between 1999 and 2002 there were 1.8 billion in kickbacks to Hussein's government in the oil for food fiasco. That figure is from the same site that did the stats/perceptions in in 2012.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 01:28 PM

If you asked

- which country paid the most bribes
- in which country bribes paid had the largest return on investment

it's pretty obvious who would be #1 for both.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:42 PM

Neuf, I have two words "Olympic Stadium."


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Corruption Index
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:48 PM

Yes to that, Jack. I have another: Mirabel Airport. Perhaps you recall a time when Bourassa was Premiere in Quebec. He was married to a gal in the Simard family. Guess who has a big hand in the Quebec cement business--and I don't mean Jimmy Hoffa?


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