BS: Are we less civilised?

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: GUEST,Big al whittle
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 09:09 AM

Oh Lizzie! let's get all indigenous! Let me chuck spears in your rainforest, and I'll let you play with my boomerang!

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: GUEST,Big Al whittle
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 09:40 AM

Just imagine what fun we could have Lizzie.
We could do a remake of Walkabout. I could be the Jenny Agutter character in a mini skirt and school blazer, and you could be that bloke with dead iguanas on his belt and flies jumping off him - that would be both our tastes catered for...!

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 09:58 AM

Al. put a sock in it, there's good chap.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: GUEST,Big Al whittle
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 11:24 AM

Theres a lot to be said for the Hindu Kush
And going deep into the bush
But the manners of bushmen are somewhat rude
And I can see Johns not really in the mood
so I'll sail no more the seas of innuendo
And bring this fantasy to an end-oh!

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 11:31 AM

Al, I banned you from my Facebook page, because of the highly insulting (to me) comment you made on there about Native Americans and how you hoped my 'fantasies' would come true concerning them....

I was so fecking stunned when I read what you said.

Do you not understand ***ANYTHING*** about me and why I have such respect for so many Indigenous Peoples?????

Or, do you simply reduce *everything* to the most basic sexual idea possible?

Geez!

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 11:41 AM

Al you're spoiling a serious thread with your adolescent fixition on annoying Lizzie.
One might begin to think you were stalking her.
Or should I just ask the mods to shut this thread down, because of trolling?

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 11:45 AM

Get OFF your feckin' soapbox of 'Let's make Lizzie look bad!'

I don't have have a soapbox, Liz - you're very proficient at making YOURSELF look bad and hardly need any outside help.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: number 6
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 11:55 AM

Hmmmmm   .....   let our own behaviour be evident on how this thread has evolved to answer the question .... "are we less civilized"

biLL .. ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 12:06 PM

Getting back to the subject of the thread.....

Your highly uncivilised comments, Greg, only show you up for who you are.

Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 12:37 PM

And who am I, Liz? Do tell. After all, you MUST know that as well!

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 01:16 PM

Time to close the thread due to the uncivilised behaviour of the Lizzie baiters.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 01:45 PM

Lizzie, I'm sure is a nice person - she'd rather help people than hurt them

But swap Victorian values for Native American - and we could almost be listening to Norman Tebbit.

Right now theres a load of people who want to demolish Weymouth Pavilion - Weymouth Council , in fact. That's because people have no respect for the values of the 1950's and 1960's.

They turn their noses at the people who created the spirit of liberalism.

As Martin Carthy said, if you didn't get yourself liberated in the 1960's - that's your problem.

Its always more difficult ro appreciate the limited virtues of what is under your nose than in some serendipity inhabited by noble savages.

Sorry if you and John Mac don't get it. That's why he finds politicians and their constant inability to operate in la lal land rather than down here on earth, such a mystery.

And boogaloo to you baby!

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 02:11 PM

I don't really give a fuck about Weymouth Pier to be honest.

I do, however, care a great deal about those whom you have chosen to describe as 'noble savages'....

And I can assure you that the term you have chosen there brings much pain and heartache to many gentle and deeply spiritual people who, even to this day, have to live with that atrocious, degrading and racist term.

They are anything BUT 'savages', for many of the Native Americans and First Nations People have an Innate Wisdom and a Deep Spirituality which stretches right back through their People.

It truly hurts and upsets many of them to be depicted or described as 'savages'.

And of course it was those who created the Holocaust of their People, who were the Uncivilised Savages in the first place....

"But swap Victorian values for Native American - and we could almost be listening to Norman Tebbit."

I have no idea what you mean with that sentence.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we less civilised?
From: GUEST,Big A Whittle
Date: 13 Dec 12 - 02:24 PM

It means Tebbit despises freedom and liberalism and eveything that people put their lives on the line to achieve in the 50's and 60's,

He hates the zeitgeist of that era. he sets no value on it. His holiday destination is the round the Victorian fireside. >much as your is....

The noble savage isn't description - its reference to a school of thought coined by Rousseau. No doubt someone who would be as comfortable in the teepee as yourself.

i wonder which one would get the vapours first...