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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Donuel Date: 07 Jun 21 - 12:06 PM People who live in bear country deserve a special exemption from some sensible gun laws. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Steve Shaw Date: 07 Jun 21 - 11:01 AM Read what again? Guns are made for killing. If guns were made just for irritating people, then bullets would be made from foam rubber or pieces of potato. If guns were intended to hurt and not kill, then bullets would be made from balsawood or dried peas. You put a gun into someone's hand and they can kill from a distance. Unless you were to resort to bows and arrows or slingshots or Russian nerve agents painted on doorknobs, then guns are just about the only means that you can use to kill from a considerable distance. You make it easier for people to kill with guns and your kill numbers will go up astronomically, and your gun kill numbers will go up astronomically. That's what your warpers of the Second Amendment have delivered for your country. Brainless faux-aphorisms about "it's people, not guns", are an excuse for keeping things as they are. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Donuel Date: 07 Jun 21 - 09:45 AM In the USA this new year alone, guns have injured over 1,000 people but have Killed only 283. By robomoron's arguement it is apparent 'people' are notoriously bad shots. He might even agree that guns need to be 200% more lethal to help 'people' with their murderous intent and btw stop picking on the poor innocent gun! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: punkfolkrocker Date: 07 Jun 21 - 02:13 AM Before rushing to judge that hapless mother, how do we know the neighbours dog wasn't carrying a gun..??? .. it is America... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: robomatic Date: 06 Jun 21 - 08:37 PM Steve: In all earnestness, maybe you should read it slowly all the way through and think about it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Steve Shaw Date: 06 Jun 21 - 05:21 PM That is absolute bollocks, robomatic, and is a lameduck excuse for maintaining your country's abhorrent gun indulgence exactly as it is. Maybe you should ditch the denial of your annual gun death statistics, as compared with countries that have sensible gun restrictions... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: robomatic Date: 06 Jun 21 - 03:28 PM I did not originate this, but I take every opportunity to echo: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Guns just make it very very easy." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Bill D Date: 06 Jun 21 - 10:15 AM An example of what we are up against here in the attempts to combat guns... Judge who LOVES 2nd Amendment. Coupled with "states rights", it reminds me of Sisyphus and his stone....but here there are several 'stones', and if one gets moved up a bit, others roll back. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Jack Campin Date: 05 Jun 21 - 11:43 AM It's quite likely that a small child hit in the stomach will face a lifetime of medical repairs. Which means that gun nut just shot herself into bankruptcy and will end up living under a bridge regardless of the criminal repercussions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Rusty Dobro Date: 04 Jun 21 - 03:40 PM Meanwhile, over in the UK, a fifteen-year-old was walking to school in our quiet village when his former best friend got out of a car which he had borrowed/stolen from his father, took from the boot a shotgun which he had borrowed/stolen from his grandad, and shot him in the face at close range. The court case goes on, and so, in some shape or form, does the victim’s life. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Bill D Date: 04 Jun 21 - 02:47 PM "And I will continue to notify this thread as and when these tragedies continue to happen" You're going to be very busy. Debate will happen either way. It does on the news media I follow almost every day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Donuel Date: 04 Jun 21 - 11:51 AM The govenor of California asked he rhetorical question "What is wrong with us" Its time someone answered his question |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 04 Jun 21 - 09:31 AM Bill, And I will continue to notify this thread as and when these tragedies continue to happen. It is only be ensuring debate that the world does not become sanitised about the impact that dogged clinging on the so called liberties has on innocent people's lives. I have debated the subject and provided international comparisons over and over, so now I am just raising and commenting on individual events. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Bill D Date: 04 Jun 21 - 08:48 AM Helen..I have over the years posted many times about the history of the USA and guns.... and the serious issue of **States Rights** and the problem of amending the Constitution to clarify the 2nd Amendment. I KNOW the rest of the world can barely comprehend how it all works.. and doesn't work. Be assured, most of us are NOT obsessed with guns... but enough are that the problem can not easily be addressed when many members of Congress (guess which party) dodge the question. Every country has some issue that divides it... we just have one of the most visible. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 04 Jun 21 - 07:40 AM Because it happened to her own son, hen there will be one positive coming from this: it is unlikely she will want to own a firearm again - but the problem is that for everyone else it is somebody else's child, which doesn't matter to them. Some of the press is already referring to this as an accident. Like she accidently bought a firearm, she accidentally loaded it, she accidently carried it, she accidently took it into her hand, she accidently aimed it across the road and she accidently pulled the trigger. The only accident was that she was a bad shot and instead of killing someone's pet dog she missed and shot her son in the stomach instead. I hope she gets a life sentence. She is a danger to society. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Backwoodsman Date: 04 Jun 21 - 07:18 AM Same in the UK, Helen, but I fear that the US is a lost cause - way too much money involved in the firearms industry, way too many brainwashed Americans who believe in a flawed interpretation of a badly-worded 2nd Amendment. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Helen Date: 04 Jun 21 - 06:22 AM In Australia, it is extremely rare and usually makes headline news if someone shoots someone else, and it is even more rare if it is a mass shooting. One of the biggest mass shooting in Australia in the last century was at Port Douglas in 1996. That's 25 years ago. We have had a couple of terrorist or similar attacks, but apart from rival bikie gangs or drug deals gone wrong, it is very, very rare. When I look at news about shooting events in the USA, it seems to be perceived as commonplace, almost like an accepted norm in society. I don't get it. How can that be socially normal in a highly developed country? Our firearm laws and firearm controls are very strict. It's not easy to buy a firearm. You need a gun licence. The Police control the licences. It is well controlled and socially responsible. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 04 Jun 21 - 05:02 AM Because she was carrying a firearm? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Backwoodsman Date: 04 Jun 21 - 04:50 AM It isn’t. Where did I say it is? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Donuel Date: 04 Jun 21 - 04:40 AM why is shooting dogs worse than shooting people or children |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Backwoodsman Date: 04 Jun 21 - 03:03 AM OK, why in the name of all that’s holy would anyone shoot a neighbour’s dog that escaped from the owner’s yard? People who live in civilised countries shouldn’t behave like barbarians - here, on the rare occasion a neighbour’s dog escapes their yard, we would use food as a bait to catch it and take it back to the owners. Either that, or call the local authority’s Dog-Warden. Whatever, it’s more evidence of the lunacy of a country that allows any Tom, Dick, or Harriet to own guns. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Bill D Date: 03 Jun 21 - 01:18 PM Gee...*I* started this thread in 2012. Go read the first page and note how --- ummm... much |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 03 Jun 21 - 12:42 PM UT was someone else's puppy that managed to escape through the owners door. The shooter has been charged with discharge of a firearm and the pet owner on leash laws. https://www.newsweek.com/angelia-mia-vargas-shooting-5-year-old-houston-texas-1596763 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Backwoodsman Date: 03 Jun 21 - 12:02 PM Even worse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Mrrzy Date: 03 Jun 21 - 10:59 AM Might have been somebody else's pet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Backwoodsman Date: 03 Jun 21 - 10:08 AM Why would anyone shoot their pet dog? Don’t they have vetinarians in that God-forsaken shit-hole of a country? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Donuel Date: 03 Jun 21 - 09:48 AM Gun sales have surpassed the all time record set during the Obama administration. I prefer RPGs to teeny handguns. They are slower but louder. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 03 Jun 21 - 09:26 AM Latest to reach the news here. A mother shot her 5 year old son in the stomach while trying to shoot a pet dog. Maybe if her son followed the NRA line and carried a firearm he could have defended himself from his mother. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Senoufou Date: 01 Nov 20 - 01:13 PM Two nights ago a blooming shooting party was busy in the fields around our village. 'Lamping'. It sounded as if there were about 15 of the clots, and it went on until 2.30am. Killing wildlife for fun. Delightful. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 01 Nov 20 - 12:07 PM Knives prepare vegetables, spread sandwich fillings, cut cooked food, only functions of a gun are to kill and wound. Anything can be used as a weapon is it is misused. I gun is used as a weapon when it is used properly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 01 Nov 20 - 11:56 AM Donuel, Guns are designed for the purpose of people killing other people or other living things. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: leeneia Date: 01 Nov 20 - 10:33 AM So do knives. The knifing statistics from the UK are very bad and troubling. Europe might be bad too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: robomatic Date: 30 Oct 20 - 04:43 PM I repeat from last year: Guns don't kill people People kill people Guns just make it very very easy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Donuel Date: 30 Oct 20 - 12:51 PM Thats less good news. There are already more guns than people. Stopping gun sales all together would have been better news. These are extra stressful times already. We have a Presidential candidate who is doing the equivalent of giving out squirt guns filled with Covid virus at rallies. No Joe O that was not misinformation unless you take the squirt gun remark literally. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Bill D Date: 30 Oct 20 - 11:55 AM Walmart is trying to avoid rioters breaking in and stealing thousands of guns. They will still sell to people who ask and have permits. I hope they have their stock well hidden! IF there are riots, I would suspect that there are plenty guns already in the hands of the people most likely to start trouble. (most threads that *I* start don't last this long) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Mrrzy Date: 30 Oct 20 - 11:19 AM Good move. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Backwoodsman Date: 30 Oct 20 - 07:09 AM ‘Eventuality’? Feckin’ autocorrect! EVENT!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Backwoodsman Date: 30 Oct 20 - 03:25 AM ”Somebody is finally getting the message at Walmart. Walmart removes guns and ammunition displays” Presumably in anticipation of serious and widespread civil unrest in the eventuality of Agent Orange’s defeat in the Presidential Election? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: keberoxu Date: 29 Oct 20 - 07:06 PM Somebody is finally getting the message at Walmart. Walmart removes guns and ammunition displays |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: gnu Date: 23 Dec 19 - 10:44 AM Canuckistan is about to 'strengthen' laws re law abiding citizens. I think they should do something about criminals instead. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: keberoxu Date: 22 Dec 19 - 02:26 PM Motive has yet to be established in the shooting at the subsidized housing complex for elderly and disabled, low-income, in Westerly, Rhode Island within the past seven days. What has been established, however, is the dead shooter's past history. When his marriage ended in divorce in or around 2002, the ex-husband was admitted to a mental hospital in Providence, Rhode Island, after threatening to kill his wife and himself. Besides being committed to a mental hospital and having his marriage end in divorce, a family court judge issued a restraining order at the time. As previously reported, the man shot three women in the housing complex, two of them employees/managers. The victim who was killed was one of the complex managers. The other two women remain in hospital, one of them in critical condition. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: keberoxu Date: 20 Dec 19 - 01:30 PM From Westerly, Rhode Island: Today it is being reported that the shooter, who killed himself, was a resident at the assisted living affordable-housing complex; and two of the three people who were shot, including the woman who died of her injuries, were housing-facility employees. Thursday shooting in Rhode Islans |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Bill D Date: 20 Dec 19 - 11:18 AM "Pro gun" is too general a term. It could mean just in favor of sane uses by hunters..etc. The problem is too many of the wrong types of guns too easily available to the wrong people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Mrrzy Date: 20 Dec 19 - 10:44 AM Lots of dems are pro-gun, too. Much as I'd like to add to the republican-bashing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Donuel Date: 19 Dec 19 - 03:03 PM The {Constitution} guarantees the right to defend ourselves with GUNS against senior citizens to Kindegardeners. The rest of it is just silly words. DJT |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: keberoxu Date: 19 Dec 19 - 01:57 PM This story is still going on, in a sense. But the shooting, it would appear, has finally stopped at this particular incident. The location is Westerly, Rhode Island. This is a community on the shoreline, very different in the summer than it is in the winter. In the summer there are a lot of "summer-house" part-time residents or visitors. At this time of year, the population is much lower, and many of the year-round residents are elderly. The shooting location is a group home of affordable housing for low-income elderly and disabled. The authorities went after the shooting suspect who has just this moment been reported dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Took a while to find the suspect, though, and the whole area was on lockdown. In the affordable-housing "village," three people were shot, and one has been pronounced dead at hospital. shooting in Rhode Island |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Mossback Date: 18 Nov 19 - 02:43 PM "Three people are dead in a shooting at a Walmart in Duncan, Oklahoma, local police said Monday morning." USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! Thanks, Republishits! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Mossback Date: 18 Nov 19 - 02:36 PM Unfortunately,at the Republican baseball game, the shooter's aim was way off. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Donuel Date: 18 Nov 19 - 01:46 PM The unlikely twist of detail is that Republican representatives were shot at their baseball practice and the CA shooting was during Sunday Nite Football on TV. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Shooting tragedies and guns From: Mrrzy Date: 18 Nov 19 - 10:09 AM Y'all seem to have forgotten someone did shoot up a bunch of congresspeople at their football game. No bloody gun laws changed. |
