BS: The Guillotine

Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 05:10 AM

I wonder why they stopped using the gibbet.

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Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 04:57 AM

It was, I believe, one Lord Lovat in 1747. It should be noted that beheading with the axe on the block at Tower Hill was the penalty only for High Treason; and then only as a privilege restricted to noble people ~~ others had to undergo the unspeakable 'hanged, drawn & quartered' {only look it up if you have a strong stomach!}. When Sir Thomas More fell out of favour with Henry VIII and was convicted of High Treason, it was only a special concession on the part of the King himself which allowed him to escape this penalty & be beheaded as if he were a nobleman, which he was not.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 04:24 AM

I wonder when and how the last prisoner was beheaded there.
And who it was. And what was their offense?
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Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: Raedwulf
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 04:20 AM

Back, IF we are a far better nation now, it has nothing to do with the abolition of capital punishment. You might feel better about it, but that's your own personal view.

Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 03:07 AM

Thank you for your concern.
I'm a do-it-yourselfer.
I'll help myself.
Krinkle's Fun Time
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Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: GUEST,Backwoodsman sans Cookie
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 03:01 AM

Krank-le, it may not have been 'abolished' until 1972 (not sure you're right about that, but I'll take your word for it), but it was never used in the UK in the 20th century. When we were still so uncivilised as to have the death penalty (until the mid-60s), we hanged our criminals. We are far better as a nation now, and state-sponsored murder is no longer part of our penal system.

BTW Krank-le, you need help. Seek therapy right away.

Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 02:40 AM

The thought has often occurred to me: When the head is severed but before the brain has died, does the person remain conscious for a moment or two? I remember once reading that just before the head rolled "she fixed her eyes accusingly" on her arch enemy.

Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 02:27 AM

The U.K. didn't abolish beheading as a punishment until 1972.
I wonder how they were carried out there in the 20th century.
Can any U.K. Mudcatter enlighten us?
How did your government behead people in more recent times?
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Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 02:26 AM

A bullet in the back of the head
And you don't even know you're dead.
Might fast, efficient and cheap
And the recipient doesn't make a peep.

Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 01:26 AM

That would be cheap, too.
Not very dramatic,though.
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Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 01:17 AM

Hanging when done properly is a humane as any. Electric chair, injection are just modern pretenses. Electricity stops the heart, so does potassium, then your brain is staved of oxygen and dies.

Guillotine and hanging sever the spinal chord, leaving the brain to die.

If you want to kill in the most humane way, look at the slaughter house. A steel bolt into the cerebral cortex ends the brain activity ASAP. Wouldn't look so good on CNN though.

Subject: RE: BS: The Guillotine
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 01:15 AM

Only one person was guillotined here in North America. A botched job in Canada.
But I bet it was used alot in places like Haiti.
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Subject: BS: The Guillotine
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 01:00 AM

I've been researching various means of capital punishment and I had no idea the French used it all the way up until 1977.
Or that the Nazis used it on 16,000 people.
It is probably the cheapest, most effective and most humane method. Other than that moment of terror just before they are laid out. And with heavy sedation, that would not be an issue.
I'm opposed to the death penalty.
The government doesn't deserve that much power.
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