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The Byrds... Your favorite song...

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Subject: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 07:31 PM

Well, all ol' folkies love The Byrds, right???

So, what is your ***single*** most favorite... Pick 1 ONLY!!!

I'll check in back later with my favorite...

B~


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: DebC
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 07:38 PM

"Wasn't Born to Follow"

Deb Cowan


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: lefthanded guitar
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 07:40 PM

Hard to choose just one


But, from the first lick and unforgettable hook on that twelve string:
............."take me on a trip".........


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,gilly in illy
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 07:45 PM

8 miles high - so inventive, still sounds like it could have been recorded last week.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: pdq
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 07:45 PM

"I'll Feel a Whole Lot Better"...sung by Gene Clark.

Interesting that their "Greatest Hits" has four members pictured on the cover, without Clark, yet six of the ten songs have Clark singing.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 07:51 PM

Turn, turn, turn.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 08:17 PM

"Mr. Spaceman" Not because it's that great of a song, but because it's the first "rock" song I heard done live by a bluegrass band. It changed how I thought about bluegrass. It didn't have to be about cabins in the hills! That was quite a revelation to me in 1974.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 08:30 PM

Probably "The Bells Of Rhymney"

CC


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Elmore
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 08:40 PM

Mr. Tambourine Man.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,Tony
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 09:25 PM

"I Am a Pilgrim " on Sweetheart of the Rodeo (1968), mainly because of John Hartford's fiddle playing.

That album was my first clue that there's a whole world of music out there somewhere, and if I would just put in a little time looking for it I wouldn't have to settle for top 40 radio noise.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Janie
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 09:29 PM

do I really have to decide on just one?


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 09:40 PM

Having started this thread I guess it's time to step to the plate... The very first song I ever learned was "Tambourine Man" so that should be my top choice but it isn't...

"Turn, turn, turn" get's my vote... Roger McGwinns soaring 12 string is awesome... The vocals are awesome... The song is awesome...

B~


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Janie
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 10:13 PM

Mine too, on reflection and a listen to my top contenders for my favorite.

"Turn, turn, turn" still sounds transcendent, even after all these years.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 10:21 PM

Transcendent? Hell, it should be! Pete Seeger wrote it.

By the way, Roger Gwuin has a website with some of his best stuff on it.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 10:21 PM

Mr. Tambourine Man.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: KT
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 10:30 PM

#1 - Turn, Turn, Turn, followed by Mr. Tamborine Man


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 10:38 PM

Roger Gwuin's voice alone is Mr. Tamborine Man


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: DonMeixner
Date: 27 Dec 12 - 11:21 PM

Was not born to follow. (Carol King I believe)

Don


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 12:05 AM

Chestnut Mare - lovely work from Clarence White


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 01:40 AM

Really a tough question for a Byrdsmaniac like myself. I'll pick a rather obscure one, written by Gene Clark...Here without You. One of the prettiest melodies he ever wrote, and with an amazing Crosby harmony.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Kit Griffiths
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 03:05 AM

Chimes of Freedom.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 04:09 AM

From A Distance


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 04:28 AM

Wasn't Born To Follow.

I loathe The Byrds cut-down version of Mr Tambourine Man!


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Allan Conn
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 05:04 AM

For me I'd chosse the song I most often play myself. Hickory Wind!


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Acorn4
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 05:08 AM

Their version of "Wild Mountain Thyme":-



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grWp3TB-A0Q


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 06:00 AM

This is cruel and unusual punishment--to make us pick just one.

Combining great harmonies with clanging guitars that just grab you from the first note, introducing an amazing array of just wonderful songs to those of us who only listened to rock---pretty sure I heard Farther Along for the first time done by the Byrds. Hard to imagine the 60's without them, and they broadened our horizons in so many ways--you didn't even have to dip into the drug culture to benefit.   I thought--and think--their classic sound is a drug itself.

Loved every one of their hits--you may not like the fact that Mr. Tambourine Man left out a lot of the lyrics, but I could listen to their version over and over--and sing along. of course.    And for some of us, the hit version pointed us to Dylan for that one--who of course was indispensable if you wanted to rail against any number of perceived problems--or just annoy adults.

I even just ran across a country song done by the Byrds on YouTube--in a better version than the country singer who's also there. But I can't remember the song.

Of course, as a hopeless harmony addict, they had me from the first chord.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 06:12 AM

Curiouser and curiouser. Per Wiki, Roger McGuinn spent some time at the Brill Building as a songwriter, under the tutelage of (wait for it).......Bobby Darin.

They have a footnote source (book) for this--wonder what it's based on.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,Dave Illingworth
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 06:26 AM

Yes indeed, not easy to pick just one. I think, for me , it will have to be "Chestnut Mare".    Shamefully I have never read a book about the Byrds (must rectify), but I was (and still am) intrigued
by the spoken interludes. It tells the same tale told by the leading character in Ibsen's play "Peer Gynt" (Act One). Did they borrow it fron Ibsen, or is there a common folk source ? Ibsen was well versed in folk tales.
Whatever, a great body of work, and very difficult to choose.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:22 AM

The reason I asked that folks pick "just one" is because in the past I've asked about other bands and performers and get a list of 10 or 20 songs which isn't all that interesting...

Keep 'um comin'...

B~


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: fat B****rd
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:30 AM

"Eight Miles High" "So You Wanna Be A Rock'n'roll Star" "Why?"
"The Ballad of Easy Rider"


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:34 AM

Love the Byrds ...... can't stand watching Roger the Bobber or listening to him blather on whenever possible. A total jackass that looks in his older years like a child molester.

David Crosby is one of the best and most unusual harmony singers ever. As for a favorite.......I'm with the "Born to Follow" crowd but probably because of Easy Rider. I always find myself listening to it in my mind when I ride. Dunno' why but I guess it somehow translates well to anyone who loves bikes.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Midchuck
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:47 AM

Oh...you mean that rock band that Clarence played with for a while.

Black Mountain Rag/Soldier's Joy medley, of course.

Peter


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:53 AM

I also liked their version of My Back Pages


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: pdq
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:56 AM

Bobby Darin was important to McGuinn's evolution into a performer:

                                                                                                             fun read


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 09:15 AM

McGuinn runs a great website called The Folk Den which puts up lyrics, chords and Mp3's for alot of trad tunes.

Current favorite: "Lover of the Bayou" which is from a live Fillmore concert in 1970, I think, with Clarence ripping on the guitar. That edition of the Byrds was a great live band but good stuff came from all the lineups.

"Roger the Bobber"?


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,Spidercake
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 09:22 AM

I learned to fingerpick after hearing My Back Pages, so I'll go with that.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 02:04 PM

Yeah, My Back Pages was great--love to hear them sing:    "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now."

Bells of Rhymney perfectly fit the jangling guitars.

So many of their hits were fun to sing along with:    Mr. Tambourine Man, Turn, Turn Turn, So You Want to Be A Rock n Roll Star, etc.

All those songs about telling you how to become a rock n roll star were real fun-- like Bobby Bare's All American Boy, also.    Sure was easy to become a rock star--you could do it in 2 1/2 minutes.   Course Bobby Bare had to give up his guitar for a rifle.    The Byrds didn't make you do that.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 03:25 PM

for Byrds fans who have an hour or two to spare, there is a great documentary history of the band here...
The Byrds: Under Review


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 03:38 PM

Roger McGuinn folk den.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 04:41 PM

The Bells of Rhymney, followed by Mr Tambourine Man. But they both make me cry, they wrench the heart somehow. By the way, they mispronounce Rhymney. It should be 'Rumney' not 'Rimmney'. I was going through a very bad time when these songs first came out, and even now they evoke the sadness I felt then. Songs do that don't they?


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 05:08 PM

Roger McGuinn---Pervert


Spaw


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: PoppaGator
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 05:54 PM

After reviewing all of y'all contributions, I gotta vote for...

Eight Miles High


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 06:34 PM

A few years ago I picked up a DVD by Roger McGuinn on home recording with a computer. Good stuff. He shows you how he records a song on relatively inexpensive equipment, including such things as multiple dubs.

He says he produces recordings that, soundwise, are as good as anything he did in a professional studio.

He adds a second guitar part and sings harmony with himself—all things I would not particularly want to do, but at least now I know how!

His comments about recording studios are pretty interesting. He tells how he was never really happy with recordings that he (they) did in professional recording studios because there were times when he felt they didn't do something all that well and should really try it again, but that would run into another hour and another $150 bucks, so they let it go at "good enough." Recording on his own gear and on his own time (and dime), he came kick it, massage it, and polish it until HE's satisfied with it.

That's where I found out about "The Folk Den" website. A whole potful of good stuff there, and although I feel that he "overproduces" a bit (multiple dubs and all), I can pick up the songs I want and sing them my own way.

Somebody else posted the link above, but here it is again:    Drop in and browse. Categories of songs in the column on the left.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 06:43 PM

Oh, GREAT!   I'm still trying to recover from Chrispness festivities, I guess.

That should be "Categories of songs in the column on the RIGHT."

Sorry about that. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: voyager
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:05 PM

All of the above.....for today I''ll go with 8 Miles High

I heard Roger McG play this on his 2010 solo tour in Denver and he described the solo as part Coltrane, part Raga, part Hendrix and the music soared.

Voyager


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:30 PM

Yeah, I heard Roger Mcgwinn a couple months ago on NPR and he played "Eight Miles High" on the show live... He's a pretty cool guy... Not my favorite but cool guy... But his 12 string was always the best...

B~


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: pdq
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:42 PM

On their first recording sessions that produced "Turn, Turn, Turn" and "Mr.Tambourine Man", only three members were invited.

McGuinn and Clarks did lead vocals, Crosby did harmory.

McGuinn's 12-string electric is the only instrument played by any of the band members. The rest of the parts are done by the usual LA studio suspects, probably Spector's Wrecking Crew. Hillman and Clarke were not invited.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 09:05 PM

Thanks, pdq... I ever knew that...

B~


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 07:18 AM

McGuinn's guitar the only instrument played by a member of the group on the first 2 big hits.   Aside from his guitar, only vocals provided by group.

Fine with me.    His guitar and the vocals were what made the group.

And the company's decision is perhaps why the group sounds fullblown --crisp and masterful-- from the first chord on Tambourine Man.    Company may have well made the right decision.




Also, the documentary goes into this in detail.   Gist of it, as I recall, is that the company did not want to take a chance on the instrumental talents of the other young men.

This was in fact quite common at the time:   vocalists were hired but instrumentalists were provided by the company for recording sessions.    Beatles were perhaps one of the few exceptions--another reason to rate them above the rest.

The Wrecking Crew member who provided much of the commentary for the documentary (which I recommend, especially the early parts--later part deteriorates as it plods through the numbingly similar series of musical and personal disappointments---unless you enjoy such things) says he was on sessions for 147 gold or platinum records.

But it appears the Byrds, in their changing configurations, did all learn to play their instruments.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Allan Conn
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 07:48 AM

"Beatles were perhaps one of the few exceptions--another reason to rate them above the rest."

And even at that Ringo Starr isn't playing drums on the Beatles' first single!


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 08:04 AM

But is it a session man?


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 08:17 AM

Also, per Wiki, Roger's signature sound is due to a studio engineer's trick. But if that's so, how could he duplicate it outside the studio?


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 10:19 AM

Ron: I believe session drummer Andy White played on some of the Beatles' early releases. I think that "Love Me Do" was initially recorded with Best, regarded as sub-standard and re-recorded with Starr, regarded as sub-standard again then recorded for a 3rd time with Andy White. There's been controversy over whether the Starr or White version was the one generally released, but a couple of people I know who are really into their drumming are convinced that the drumming on LMD is "obviously" in White's style and "sounds nothing like" Starr. And Andy White was on a TV prog a couple of weeks ago saying that *he* recognised that the drumming on the released version of LMD was his.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 11:57 AM

I've got to join in here--the Byrds being a lifetime obsession, like everyone, it's hard to pick one, because it's often whichever one I just heard. Based on that, right now it's "John Riley", but every time I hear "Hickory Wind" I decide that it's the best song ever.

Though I agree with Bobert on the idea of avoiding those crack-headed lists, how can you pick one song from a band that featured some of the best work of Roger McGuinn, David Crosby, Chris Hillman, Gram Parsons, Clarence White, etc?

"Sweet Heart of the Rodeo" changed country/pop/rock music forever, and that wasn't even their most popular work. Give us a break, Bobert!


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 12:18 PM

Ballad of Easy Rider


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,Dave Illingworth
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 12:52 PM

Apologies for my ignorance regarding "Chestnut Mare" (see 28th December). I have now discovered that McGuinn and Jacques Levy intended the song for a country-rock stage production of "Peer Gynt",
entitled "Gene Tryp". The project was abandoned.
No doubt everybody knew that, except me...........


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,sturgeon
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 01:30 PM

'Lover of the Bayou' on the 'Untitled' album.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Beer
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 01:35 PM

I'm with Janie in that they're are so many. Here is one though that I always liked,"MY BACK PAGES".
Adrien


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 02:45 PM

Rob Naylor I seem to be the only one with you. I dislike the soft-focus sound they give to some really hard hitting songs. As for Mr Tambourine Man, well they just removed all the heartbreaking, plaintive poignancy from Dylan's original and turned it into a mushy MOR pop song.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 03:18 PM

According to the Byrds website and Mcguinn himself, the Rickenbacker 12 string was used prior to recording Mr Tambourine Man, but the ringing fat sustain that became the trademark sound was initially cooked up for that recording. The guitar was plugged directly into the mixing board and a series of tube compressors, the brainchild of a Columbia sound man. Later, Mcguinn wanted to achieve the same sound live, and created it by using a combination of the Rick, a JC-120 amp, and a device he tinkered together later commercially produced a "the jangle box", and now available for purchase by you and me, of course.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: pdq
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 05:18 PM

correction: instrument playing the song "Turn, Turn, Turn" is now credited to the Byrds and not the studio pros who helped on "Mr. Tambourine Man"...amazing how "truth" mutates


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: voyager
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 05:41 PM

Who is the British narrator/interviewee in the Byrds documentary? My first guess is Peter Asher.

BTW - in 1966 Henry Fonda threw a Malibu beach party featuring the Byrds as the house band. A bunch of us beach kids peered in from under the tent to listen in. I went home with Gene Clark's drumstick or pocket comb (I forget which).

voyager


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 06:06 PM

Can't vouch for the accuracy - but many facts listed here:


Interesting Byrds site


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 06:19 PM

I often wondered if Jesse Ed Davis was associated in any way with the Byrds (since he was associated, in sessions, with so many groups of the period). All I could come up with (under D below) was a loose association, one with Gene Clarks solo albums?




MUSICIANS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BYRDS


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 07:19 PM

One of my favourite Gene Clark songs (soory about the drift):

Where my love lies asleep


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 07:55 PM

Any one with Clarence White playing.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 08:27 PM

Thanks, Ed T, for the link... Very interesting reading...

B~


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 30 Dec 12 - 06:48 AM

British narrator in the documentary is not Peter Asher.    It's an editor, columnist or something similar for a British music magazine.    Can't remember the name right now but his captioned name does come up several times in the documentary.   If nobody else finds the name soon, I'll do it later today.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 30 Dec 12 - 09:30 PM

British narrator is Nigel Williamson of Uncut magazine.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Continuity Jones
Date: 31 Dec 12 - 04:44 AM

Drug Store Truck Drivin' Man


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 Dec 12 - 01:56 PM

Amazing how controversial the" Love Me Do drumming" is.   Per Wiki, which though chancy on politics seems to be pretty good on pop music, Andy White was indeed used on most pressings of the song, but supposedly it's hard to tell the difference. Main way is that on the White takes, Ringo plays another percussion--maracas? And Wiki says the problem appears to be that in those days the drum was expected to be exactly with the bass--but the looser R & B approach was coming in.

So in general the Beatles still rate pretty high--higher than most-- in playing their instruments starting with the first recordings.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: fat B****rd
Date: 31 Dec 12 - 02:41 PM

I forgot "King Apathy III" from Dr Byrds And Mr Hyde. Has anybody read the massive Volume 1 Requiem For The Timeless which I saw in Waterstones recently.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 31 Dec 12 - 05:44 PM

No, but it's supposed to be the essential document, FB.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 12:44 PM

So, since McGuinn's signature sound was based partly on an engineer's trick, how were they able to duplicate that in concert?   I'd still be curious about answers on that.   Is there a "desk" they could take which would achieve that?


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 03:53 PM

Again, McGuinn claims that he cobbled together a series of sound compression circuits in a box...he called it the "jangle box"... into which he would plug the Rick. From there, he fed to the Roland JC-120 amp with treble cranked up.
Someone is now commercially producing a facsimile which McGuinn endorses, it sells for about 300, and you can get one here.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 04:29 PM

Yes, I understand it was compression. So the idea is that he could take this box to any live gig and produce the same sound as in the studio?


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 04:32 PM

Strange, but the Byrds never moved me.
I saw them once at a folk rock fest in Lincoln ( 1971?).
I also them - sort of - back in the 1970s in Manchester, when Mcguinn, Gene Clarke and Chris Hillman appeared on the same bill each fronting their own band.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,Eric the viking
Date: 02 Jan 13 - 02:43 PM

Always, from the first time I ever heard them, I have been a Byrds fan. I have all their albums and re-mastered cd's but for me it has to be, "Everybody's been burned". I think there is a teenage truth in the lyrics that stretches into adulthood. Anyway that's my favourite apart from most of the rest of them.(I could give a list.....) The Byrds/ Beach boys,, Pet sounds get played more often than anything else over the last 40+ years.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,Seayaker
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 05:17 AM

Wasn't Born to Follow.

I find their version of Mr. Tambourine Man lethargic and much prefer the Dylan version.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 02:23 PM

Thanks for reminding me, Eric the Viking. That is a truly amazing recording--I love the way the bass meanders and weaves through the maze, and McGuinn's guitar soloing--is it folk, is it rock, or is it
Coltrane? Owing to my peripatetic musical tastes, I have listened to oceans of different things over these last 40+, and I keep coming back to the same as you--Pet Sounds, yes...


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: fat B****rd
Date: 03 Jan 13 - 02:46 PM

I forgot "Get To You" on The Notorious Byrd Brothers album. The 5/4 rhythm is, to me at any rate,quite unusual.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: Eldergirl
Date: 10 Jan 14 - 01:29 PM

How easily (almost) everyone forgets Gene Clark's contribution.
'Here without you' - lovely plaintive tune with hope at the end, yes I will see you again won't I?
'Set you free this time'. Was this the one where the rest of the band pushed off home?
'She don't care about time' . original b-side version please.
And quite a few others.
I'll leave it at that, for now. :)


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,BrendanB
Date: 10 Jan 14 - 04:33 PM

So you wanna be a rock and roll star. But that's today. It will probably be something else tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: The Byrds... Your favorite song...
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 10 Jan 14 - 04:40 PM

Clark also wrote and sang lead on the Beatlesque "Feel a Whole Lot Better When You're Gone" one of my favorites from their early stuff.


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