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Obit: Ray Collins (Mothers of Invention)

Gibb Sahib 28 Dec 12 - 07:18 PM
GUEST,joe offer at camp 28 Dec 12 - 09:20 PM
Gibb Sahib 28 Dec 12 - 11:39 PM
Elmore 28 Dec 12 - 11:41 PM
GUEST,Stim 29 Dec 12 - 02:51 AM
Brian Peters 29 Dec 12 - 05:14 AM
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Subject: Obit: Ray Collins (Mothers of Invention)
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 07:18 PM

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Subject: RE: Obit: Ray Collins (Mothers of Invention)
From: GUEST,joe offer at camp
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 09:20 PM

Gibb please give us a narrative and not just a link. Thanks. -joe

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Subject: RE: Obit: Ray Collins (Mothers of Invention)
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 11:39 PM

This may be of interest to anyone who was a fan of Frank Zappa's Mothers of Invention.

Evidently it was Collins who had the band which Frank Zappa joined and which became the Mothers of Invention. They parted ways, however, and Collins lived somewhat "off the grid" and as a transient ever since. Interesting to hear that he had been spending his final years in "the Village" of Claremont, California (where I now reside). (Zappa had also attended Pomona College here.)

Anyone not knowing would probably suspect Collins was "just a bum," without realizing he was instrumental in starting the whole Mothers thing.

I myself wonder why he'd have chosen Claremont -- a town quite unfriendly to transients -- as the place to spend all these years.
Perhaps irrelevant, but the Folk Music Center and Museum (set. 1958) is also in the Claremont Village.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Ray Collins (Mothers of Invention)
From: Elmore
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 11:41 PM

This shows how old and out of touch I am. When I saw the headline, "Ray Collins Dies", I thought of an actor who worked on the Perry Mason Show. That Ray Collins died in 1965. Good grief.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Ray Collins (Mothers of Invention)
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 02:51 AM

Ray Collins had a great voice, with a really natural R & B feel, and that, quite apart from Zappa's crazed genius, made those first few Mothers albums worth listening to over and over. He was underrated and overshadowed. This is from Cruisin' with Ruben and the Jets Ray Collins sings "Anything" , supposedly a doo-wop parody, but actually a beautiful R & B ballad.

He was one of those performers who wanted to play what he liked, and found it easier to let it go than to go where others wanted him to. Still, he left us some great music.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Ray Collins (Mothers of Invention)
From: Brian Peters
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 05:14 AM

Oh no, I don't believe it!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Ray Collins (Mothers of Invention)
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 11:59 AM

Got that, Brian;-)


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