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BS: Lingering Head Cold...

Bobert 28 Dec 12 - 07:48 PM
GUEST,999 28 Dec 12 - 07:51 PM
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Charmion 28 Dec 12 - 08:33 PM
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Subject: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 07:48 PM

I thought it was just me... Started out as common head cold which usually is done in 5 days... The worst part passed but the sinus is still congested...

Seems I've been hearing a lot of folks out there with similar symptoms...

Any Catters out there suffering???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 07:51 PM

I am, and you just pissed me off on another thread. To cure the head cold:

1) Do not catch cold
2) If you do, suffer in silence
3) Sympathy is in the dictionary between shit and syphilis

Yer friend, 999.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 07:54 PM

Hey, if ya' can't piss off yer friends now and then then, hey, who can ya' piss off???

I love ya', brucie!!!

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:06 PM

Backatcha, Bobster. I know where your heart is, and that means more to me than your writings. Always has, always will. You've ever had a kind word for people, and it don't get better than that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:13 PM

I had something that started the night after Thanksgiving (22 Nov). Started as a sore throat, went to the sneezing/nose stuff, went to a minor cough thing. The worst thing about it was that it totally killed my energy, and I'm just now starting to feel like doing anything.

I did not, however, start a thread.

Mainly, I didn't start a thread because I was not jonesing for attention. I considered who'd read my message and came to the conclusion no one really would gave a rat's ass, and I KNOW where one might find sympathy every single time one were to look.

Had I felt better, I might have gone on a worm hunt and made myself a sandwich...


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:19 PM

Well, gol danged, Jeri...

Asking folks for a little advice on home remedies ain't exactly trying to get attention...

My situation is that even though I'm kinda in a stabilized situation with congestion that the P-Vine is a tad worse... Going to doctors sometimes ain't the answer... Sometimes folks can help one another...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Charmion
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:33 PM

Steam, Bobert.

Fill a large bowl with boiling water and snuff up the steam. If you have some oil of wintergreen about the house, add a drop to the bowl.

If that helps, you might consider moving on to the advanced class: Snuffling Salt Water. This requires a small dish of warm salted water, or you might try a Neti-Pot if you feel the need for purpose-built kit. Close one nostril with your finger, and dip the other into the water, then sniff gently, pulling a little water up into your poor, clogged schnoz. Don't drown. Blow it out into the sink and repeat on the other side. Do this three or four times a day.

Don't forget to clean the sink ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:37 PM

Sorry. Must have lumped it together with some other stuff you started. It's not something that I'd think to start a thread about, but some suggestions might well enter the realm of "folklore".

Sleeping a lot helped.
Soup helped.
Drink way more water than you feel like drinking.
Also, try not to sniff or blow your nose. Later on, you'll get that viscous snot that's an awful lot like rubber cement and creeps down the back of your throat from your poor sinuses.
Guaifenesin (in cough syrup and that pill whose commercial has a little mucous family and all their friends partying in people's passages until the victim gets wise and takes the pill) works pretty good, but you have to drink water so the stuff can re-hydrate your snot so you can snort it or hack it out.
Netti pots would help, although I've never own one and use the saline spray instead to rinse.

About the only thing you can do is treat whatever symptoms you have, and just generally take care of yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:38 PM

Lethal Midline Granuloma

a really good selection of causes here


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:45 PM

Me??? I slept for two days when I first got it and taking naps every day trying to shake the lingering effects...

The P-Vine??? Sounds like it's movin' into her lungs but she has a history with bronchitis...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:54 PM

I agree with CET. Steam, interspersed with 1 1/2 oz shots of rum. Then steam.

Having tried this as a teenager, please believe me when I tell you you can give yourself a serious heat rash if you get pissed and fall face-first in the water. Put your hands in the water. Then you'll look good even as your hands are bandaged.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 08:57 PM

The guaifenesin name-brand I couldn't remember is "Mucinex". It's also in some cough syrups (such as Robitussin), and it's good to not over-dose on the stuff.
My father had chronic bronchitis + emphysema, and back in the 70s, he took a guaifenesin syrup several times every day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 09:03 PM

Thanks, Jeri... I'll round some up tomorrow for the P-Vine...

Yo, brucie... I don't have any rum but I got moonshine... Will that do???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 09:13 PM

THAT would deal with our sinuses, for sure.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 09:19 PM

Actually, I am familiar with "Mucinex"... I might even have some stashed around somewhere... I have been using a pill form of generic "nasal decongestant"... And so has the P-Vine... I was just tellin' her that I thought we needed a stronger decongestant...

Mucinex!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 09:56 PM

There's stuff that makes your schozz less stuffy, like sudafed or whatever the non-meth-related stuff that doesn't make you hper substitute is.
There are antihistamines that reduce histamines which cause symptoms
And there are snot-liquifiers (the guaifenesin).

You may find product that have all three and more, such as cough suppressants. You don't have to always use just one of them, but (and OF COURSE I know you know this) read labels. It might make sense to buy some product that has the right combo of things.

Me, I can't take anything (antihistamine) that "dries up" my runny nose. Last time I tried it (after telling the doc I could NOT take it and him telling me to "try") it (friggin' Actifed) worked for about 20 minutes and my nose slammed shut for the rest of the day. Afrin nasal spray does that too. Other people have no problems. Me, it's as if somebody shoved a pair of socks up my nose... with the feet still in them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 10:02 PM

I can't do antihistamine either, jeri... Stops me up and gives me headaches....Sudifed does that to me...

We'll try the Mucinex... I've done steam... The P-Vine hasn't... I been on her to try it but she hasn't done it... I used to put Vicks Vapo-rub in the water and that worked fairly well... Think I need to buy some of that and try it...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 10:12 PM

WHAT a bunch of winers/whinners/wineers complainers. Jaysus suffering jaysus, relax. Smoke grass. Your sinuses will still be in moderate pain but you won't give a shit! Work with me on this.
9


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 10:50 PM

"Close one nostril with your finger, and dip the other into the water, then sniff gently, pulling a little water up into your poor, clogged schnoz." Charmion

How does one do this, Charmion? I first read it as dipping one's finger into water and sniffing, but upon re-reading, it sounds like you're saying to dip the other nostril into the water. ?

How? A large shallow basin? I cannot picture this...


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Dec 12 - 10:57 PM

Ebs, read my post.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 06:44 AM

Infected sinuses need antibiotics.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Charmion
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 07:27 AM

Close the disengaged nostril with a finger. Dip the other nostril -- not finger -- into your little dish of warm salted water.

I use a little bowl about the size of the palm of my hand.

Yesterday, when I was at the drugstore waiting for a prescription, I whiled away the time perusing the shelves of cold nostrums. Among them I saw a saline aerosol with a long plastic nozzle obviously designed for sluicing the nose -- great idea, if you don't happen to have a little bowl.

If the P-Vine is coming down with bronchitis, she needs to see a doc and get an antibiotic. A sinus infection -- ditto, like Eliza says.

As a practising, card-carrying asthmatic, I consider myself something of a snot guru. The thing you need to do is check the colour of the gunk (disgusting, I know, but there it is). Yellow or green sputum means pus, which means bacterial disease. White or clear sputum means no bacterial disease, but continuing irritation in the bronchi and/or lungs. A constant headache focussed in the forehead and/or around the eyes means infected sinuses.

I have tried syrups with guaifenesin in them, but Mucinex is new to me; perhaps it's not available in Canada. The syrups never do me much good, possibly because the gunk factory in my lungs never lets up.

Now you know everything I know.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 08:18 AM

Go see yer doc!


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 10:01 AM

only in america..real men work through it..stop bleedin wingeing!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: bobad
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 10:07 AM

A snort of 0.1% Oxymetazoline will unclog those naries forthwith.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Charmion
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 10:08 AM

"Real men" who "work through" a head cold just share it with all the innocent by-standers in their lives.

Not fair! Not fair!


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 10:15 AM

There is a strain of cold (flu) where I reside that has resulted in bacterial Pneumonia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 11:46 AM

People often confuse flu symptoms with a cold. For those in the USA, the Center for Disease control has a website that tracks and maps confirmed flu cases.

Where I live, (from tracking our countries flu website) type A Flu seems to be what some folks seem to be getting:

Type A flu


This year's flu shot is supposed to protect against this flu. I got the shot, and my spouse did not. IMO, she has had this flu for a week - Luckily, I feel fine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 11:51 AM

Yup, sounds like H3N2 Flu to me... I was wondering why I have been feeling tired...

The poor P-Vine is worse than me and she got the shot... I didn't because I'd heard that for folks over 60 that they already have anti-bodies for it...

Guess not...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Charmion
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 11:52 AM

I know that germ rather too well, Ed -- it nailed me three weeks before Christmas and I'm only emerging from the bronchitis now.

Of course, I caught it at work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Jeri
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 12:04 PM

As a general rule, if you don't have a fever of 101° or higher, it's not the flu. Another way to tell influenza from a cold is by throat swabs, but the swabs are used to predict trends for future vaccines, not for patient treatmenet.

Around my neck of the woods (including my own neck), there's a particularly nasty type of cold going around. I'm guessing it's going around elsewhere too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Leadfingers
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 01:17 PM

The Scariest aspect of the American Non Health system is that because of the cost too many Americans dont go near a Doc until they feel they are at death's door, by which time , too often , they are !
Thank God or whoever for a Health Srtvice that WONT bankrupt me if I go the Doc with what MAY only be a minor ailment .
Hope you get sorted SOONEST Bobert .


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 01:31 PM

The other thing about many in the US is that they don't really live near a doctor. MY HMO happens to be 2 minutes away... walking distance if needed... but so many are MANY miles from a doc or hospital and they treat minor illnesses as a nuisance which is not as bad as a long trip.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 01:40 PM

I know we here in UK knock the NHS sometimes, but really we are so lucky. I can get an appointment with the doctor probably the same day if I suspect an infection of any sort. I would be prescribed antibiotics which are given to me at the in-surgery pharmacy. They'd cost me nothing at all as I'm well over 60. The consultation is free. I can go back again for a final check-up. The surgery is 5 mins away by car. If (touch wood) it turned nasty eg pneumonia, I'd get a free ambulance to be treated free in our spanking new hospital. 'What's not to like?' as they say.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Charmion
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 05:33 PM

Bill has a goodoint. When I first took up with my GP, his office was nice and convenient, across thecstreet from the church and less than five blocks from home. Then he joined a group practice in the west end, a long and nasty bus ride away in a horrid strp mall. By the time I arrive, I'm usually coughing heavily and on the brink of tears.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Ed T
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 05:59 PM

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention flu info:


Seasonal flu

flu activity maps


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 10:52 PM

Seeing / Hearing ... this stuff is dropping into the lungs.

(enjoy your vacation from mudcat ... the rest of us will)


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Dec 12 - 10:59 PM

Very strange post, GUEST...

No matter... We will go for the Mucinex tomorrow when we get into town...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Dec 12 - 02:02 PM

Speaking of Mucinex- it works.

I tend not to buy/use things that are highly-hyped and that is certainly true of Mucinex.

However, last winter I had a cold that didn't seem to 'move'; my chest stayed tight and my head ached. So I bought some Mucinex. It loosened my chest almost immediately and I got over the cold almost painlessly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 30 Dec 12 - 02:40 PM

Bobert, if your sinuses are infected, you probably do need antibiotics - the doc is the one to judge.
When you've got them, you might try a couple of other things:

1) Neilmed make a squeezy plastic bottle that comes with ready mixed saline powder; you boil water, let it cool to tepid, fill the bottle to the fill-up line, add a sachet's-worth of saline powder, shake and then squirt it up your nose. A lot less unpleasant than the other various ways of doing this, and it gives wonderful relief by making the mucous membranes shrink back and clearing out infected gunge. If you suffer from blocked sinuses generally, it's good to use this every day.

2) The trusty hot lemon, honey and ginger (and whiskey if that's your inclination) will help you sweat it out if you take it before bed.

3) L-Lysine is fantastic for any viral infection - it's some class of a vitamin or amino acid or something; you get it in the health shop. Also works brilliantly if you have cold sores.

4) Kimchi, spicy if you can find it spicy, the Korean pickled cabbage is very good against colds. The Koreans also claim it cures Sars and bird flu...

5) Chicken soup is the traditional "Jewish penicillin" for colds; best is to take the bones of a roast chicken, add 3 big carrots, 2 onions, a quarter of a celery plant, chop the veggies roughly and add them in (no need to peel), put bones and veggies in a pot with lots of water and a bay leaf (and whatever other herbs you like), bring to the boil and simmer for a couple of hours. Leave the doors open so the vapour comes through; apparently the vapour of chicken stock has a great effect on the infected mucous membranes. Drain off the stock and make soup with it - if you're not feeling well enough to make your standard soup, just throw in a tin of kimchi into the soup and then gobble it up over a couple of days.

6) If you do get your energy back, make lentil soup with the chicken stock: peel and chop three carrots, garlic to taste, an onion and a bit of celery, and a couple of handfuls of lentils, and cook them in butter, turning to coat them. Add a bay leaf and pour on the stock, and I like to add one of those jelly type chicken stockpot thingies that Knorr have started making. Bring it to a simmer and keep it simmering until the carrots are almost soft; now add about half a cup of chopped parsley. You can whizz this up or leave the vegetables whole - nice either way. Also nice with a squeeze of lemon juice, and very, very nice served with cheesy wholewheat scones.

7) Get lots of rest, keep warm and snug, and get better soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: gnu
Date: 31 Dec 12 - 06:25 AM

SinuCleanse.

hydraSense

I make a solution of salt water (plus baking soda is what my ENT recommends. At the first inkling of cold or flu, I use the squeze bottle and then the SinuCleanse (ENT recommended) upon waking and then every two hours. I also gargle with salt water after these. Ground ginger with a teaspoon of honey as required.

Steam is the only way to "get at" the lungs and the above posts are excellent regarding steam. Especially 9's safety tip.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: kendall
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 05:13 AM

Real orange juice and zinc. Take at the first hint of a cold. Works for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 10:48 AM

Yes, I have a cold like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: gnu
Date: 28 Sep 14 - 01:24 PM

Good thread. Last cold I had was about 1998. Caught in the hospital. Caught this one in my house showing a contractor some pics on Facebook. After he coughed for about the 6th time, I asked him if he had a cold. Yup. I told him he should go pic the apples in the yard that he asked about (deer season looms). Apparently, I didn't ask about his cold quick enough.

I've been at the salt water and vitamin C. It ain't bad and it only slightly started yesterday so we'll see how it goes.

So... anyone got any more home, or otherwise, remedies?


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: maeve
Date: 28 Sep 14 - 01:37 PM

Besides good suggestions above, sage/savory/thyme tea with honey and lemon is good. Feel better soon.
m


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Monique
Date: 28 Sep 14 - 01:53 PM

Rub good old Vicks Vaporup on your feet soles and put socks on -usually done before going to bed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: gnu
Date: 28 Sep 14 - 01:56 PM

Thanks! I like ginger and honey for the throat. I dunno where the Vicks is... must be some aboutst.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: GUEST,Rahere
Date: 28 Sep 14 - 04:41 PM

Too late now. I have kept my fruit and veg up, daughter gave me the usual change-of-seasons cold yesterday, it's already gone. She's still feeling like shit. The rest are simply feelgood: the virus triggers excess mucus, which traps bacteria. Keep your teeth brushed, drink more to dissolve the mucus, amd invest in paper products.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 Sep 14 - 07:24 PM

Something new to worry about:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2709686/From-symptoms-common-cold-bleeding-ears-eyes-What-happens-infected-Ebola-virus


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Subject: RE: BS: Lingering Head Cold...
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Feb 23 - 06:19 PM

Mine has only lingered for three days and I am already SO over it.


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