Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: Jack Campin
Date: 21 Jan 13 - 04:02 PM

Pink slime

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 22 Jan 13 - 10:24 AM

Our butcher has a customer who regularly asks for pigs' cheeks. The butchering skills involved in cutting them out are almost an art form - I've seen him do it and it was pretty amazing.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 22 Jan 13 - 01:29 PM

Glad to see, after reading your clicky Jack, that Pink Slime doesn't meet the requirements of UK for consumption.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: gnu
Date: 22 Jan 13 - 06:44 PM

"Interesting isn't it, why we abhor the idea of eating horses? Brits have always been tremendous meat-eaters, and have over the centuries had plenty of lamb, mutton, beef, poultry and pork to get their teeth into."

One of the "Brit tribes" (sorry about that term) eats haggis. I rather eat Trigger and Silver and Black Beauty.

If together, would that be a Neighopolitan?

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 04:20 AM

LOL gnu! Haggis is really delicious. It's slightly spicy and only contains lamb, onions and oatmeal. I suppose one could be put off by the whole thing being contained in a sheep's stomach, but when I was younger (about a hundred years ago!) sausages were put into pigs' intestines. I well remember the butcher pushing the tubes of skin onto the sausage stuffer like a long, giant condom!

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 04:39 AM

"But the younger women don't know how to"

My grandmother taught me to bake cakes and hand stitch, but other simple domestic skills that women of prior generations were taught by their mothers and took for granted, I never learned - like how to iron stuff properly (I just don't), how to sew my own clothes, how to knit or crochet, even how to properly clean a home, were never taught me. I have taught myself to cook from scratch, but that was something even my own mother never learned to do herself until later in life! I'm still an appallingly poor cleaner and I never have figured out how to get rid of dust and hairs in a bathroom! Crazy really. I often wish I could whisk up a magic fairy aunty (I don't have any) to patiently demonstrate to me the 'how to' of such things!

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 05:35 AM

Wiki.... "Haggis is a savoury pudding containing sheep's pluck (heart, liver and lungs); minced with onion, oatmeal, suet, spices, and salt, mixed with stock, and traditionally encased in the animal's stomach and simmered for approximately three hours."

OH! I thought it contained kidney also. I just might enjoy Haggis. But, I can't figure out a joke from it.

Hmmmm... if you made it from horse, would it be Naggis?

See what I mean?

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 07:25 AM

I don't own a horse, but I've heard a number of horse owners complaining about the extra cost to them of having to maintain older horses which would once have been shipped off to the slaughterhouse. Face it, most horse owners don't want a horse whose only available gait is a plodding walk. They want one who is fun to ride.

So, what are their options when a horse reaches broken down old nag state? A vet's not going to euthanize a healthy animal, and being too old to run is not a illness. The owner can't legally just shoot the thing and bury it on his property. That'd be two crimes: animal cruelty and unlawful disposal and could mean a hefty fine and/or jail time. So, the owner's left with no option but to continue feeding expensive feed to an old worn out nag until it dies a natural death. And even then, he's going to be saddled with the cost of cremation, the only legal means of disposing of animal carcasses.

Personally, I'd rather see old horses converted into Alpo than have them converted into ashes in a crematorium.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 08:22 AM

Naggis!! LOL gnu you are an absolute scream! Guest CS, I think you're extremely sensible, because if you haven't a clue about how to housekeep or cook, a man will be forced to do it himself. But if like me you're daft enough to know how and willing enough to get on with it all yourself, the man will let you. (Being lazy sods the lot of 'em!"

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 12:32 PM

Haggis. Ugh!

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: Charmion
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 02:41 PM

Some 25 years ago, I set out to make a genuine haggis from a genuine, old-time haggis recipe, but got no farther than the counter of the nice full-service butcher shop in the By Ward Market. The nice, full-service butcher behind the counter told me that the lungs, heart, liver and stomach of mature sheep are not legal for sale in Canada, liver fluke parasites being endemic in this country.

Oh, said I, and revised my menu accordingly.

Nowadays, there are farmers who will sell you a whole sheep, professionally butchered, cut up to order, wrapped and frozen, and I imagine that the essential ingredients could be obtained from one of these worthies at the farm gate, as it were. However, in the interim I married a fine individual who considers the whole notion of haggis repellent.

So I have revised my culinary bucket list accordingly.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 02:51 PM

Even in England you can buy haggises (is that the correct plural?) at any supermarket. In Scotland of course they're eaten regularly. Down here they're popular for Rabbie Burns Night Jan 27th for exiled Scots.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: Charmion
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 03:11 PM

The haggis you buy in the supermarket is usually made of beef; you have to put in a special order to get one made of lamb. Mutton just ain't gonna happen, at least not here.

Even a lamb haggis is packed into a casing made of beef tripe, and the offal content is limited to liver. No naughty bits!

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: Charmion
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 03:12 PM

Afterthought -- I believe the plural of "haggis" is "haggis".

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 04:04 PM

No, Charmion, the plural of haggis is ugh, ugh!

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 23 Jan 13 - 06:24 PM

...in the interim I married a fine individual who considers the whole notion of haggis repellent.

As compelling an argument for marriage you're ever going to hear.

*********

"If it weren't for my spouse, I never would have kicked my heroin habit."

"Well, if it weren't for my spouse, I would have prepared a haggis."

"Oh Jesus! You win!"

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 24 Jan 13 - 04:30 PM

Horses are surely just as non-kosher as pigs?

Meanwhile, the horse-derived protein additive, which came from the Netherlands, it seems, appears to have been contaminated with some nasty medicine or stimulant given to racehorses, which isn't necessarily safe for humans at all. (Or so I read in the more sensational British tabloids; perhaps a grain of salt may be needed.)

As far as I remember, Lidl and Aldi had a tiny trace of horsemeat, a fraction of 1%, in their burgers, whereas Tesco had something up to 30%.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Mar 15 - 02:50 PM

A rap in Russian from Kazakhstan about horsemeat:

http://tengrinews.kz/tv/interesnoe_v_seti/1900/

The butcher near where I work has started selling horsemeat (very thin-cut steaks or stewing packs). Good stuff. He isn't very far from the Edinburgh police horse stables. Maybe Rebus could investigate.

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: olddude
Date: 06 Mar 15 - 04:25 PM

A horse is a horse of course of course and no one can talk to a horse of course unless the horse is a talking horse Mr ed

Subject: RE: Folklore: Mama don't allow no hippophagy here
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Mar 15 - 08:18 PM

Unless that horse is mistered?How do you mister a horse?
After mad cow disease legislation made farmers and butchers jump through hoops, but when it gets to the supermarkets, they can't even tell what species it is.