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Bobert 03 Feb 13 - 10:58 PM
Amos 03 Feb 13 - 11:17 PM
gnu 03 Feb 13 - 11:35 PM
GUEST,bigrickpa 03 Feb 13 - 11:52 PM
open mike 04 Feb 13 - 06:04 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 04 Feb 13 - 08:23 AM
GUEST,999 04 Feb 13 - 08:36 AM
Bill D 04 Feb 13 - 09:33 AM
Bill D 04 Feb 13 - 09:43 AM
GUEST,leeneia 04 Feb 13 - 11:17 AM
GUEST,Rapparee 04 Feb 13 - 12:21 PM
Ron Davies 04 Feb 13 - 01:08 PM
Ron Davies 04 Feb 13 - 01:09 PM
Dave MacKenzie 04 Feb 13 - 01:28 PM
Raggytash 04 Feb 13 - 01:51 PM
EBarnacle 04 Feb 13 - 02:20 PM
GUEST,999 04 Feb 13 - 02:45 PM
Rapparee 04 Feb 13 - 02:46 PM
Raggytash 04 Feb 13 - 03:23 PM
Rapparee 04 Feb 13 - 03:35 PM
Dave MacKenzie 04 Feb 13 - 03:57 PM
gnu 04 Feb 13 - 04:57 PM
Little Hawk 04 Feb 13 - 05:09 PM
gnu 04 Feb 13 - 05:43 PM
Ebbie 04 Feb 13 - 05:54 PM
Rapparee 04 Feb 13 - 06:24 PM
Ron Davies 04 Feb 13 - 11:15 PM
Joe Offer 05 Feb 13 - 01:05 AM
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Subject: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 10:58 PM

Well, I started out kinda rootin' for the 49ers but by half time had switched... Not because of the score but because I know folks in Baltimore but I don't know anyone in San Fran...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Amos
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 11:17 PM

Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:47 PM EST
Baltimore Ravens Defeat San Francisco 49ers, 34-31, to Win Super Bowl
The Baltimore Ravens won Super Bowl XLVII, 34-31, by withstanding a determined second-half comeback by the San Francisco 49ers."

I do have to say that no-call on holding on that long pass was dubious and would have made all the difference. The Ravens strategy of sacrificing the safety points was brilliant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 11:35 PM

It was the obvious call (the safety). Maybe a mod can combine this thread with the one that has been on here for months?


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: GUEST,bigrickpa
Date: 03 Feb 13 - 11:52 PM

obvious, you mean like the roughing the passer when flacco was hit a yard out of bounds??? oh wait, that didn't get called, either.
sheesh... crybabies


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: open mike
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 06:04 AM

was about to give up hope for the 9'ers

but they did make a good effort in the last 1/2

the power outage seemed to have given them power...

i don't usually go for football, but have been trying

to learn to like it since my boyfriend does...


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 08:23 AM

Why do our American cousins insist on calling this game Football. During the course of the American "football" game the ball is only kicked with the foot occasionally. At such times a team member is brought onto the field of play to kick (with his foot) the ball. The rest of the time the ball is thrown by hand from one person to another.

There is a bit of a clue to the actual game of football played in the much of the world. The two words FOOT and BALL are combined to indicate that the BALL is played with the FOOT, hence FOOTBALL.

The rest of the world does have a game that the American "football" resembles and it is called RUGBY.

Perhaps you Guys and Gals over the pond could start a movement to rename your game.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 08:36 AM

Handball was already taken, Raggytash. Rugby and North American football are as alike as tennis and ping pong. And even football is a misnomer because the ball has an OAL of only eleven inches. We're fooked I tell you, fooked.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 09:33 AM

Well... how is it that the rest of the world who plays REAL 'football' calls lunging foot-first to try to steal the ball a 'tackle';>)?

A real tackle happens when a player is caught and dragged down or knocked over. I'm sure the Baltimore Ravens would be glad to demonstrate the difference to Manchester United. *grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 09:43 AM

Just to clarify... American football was named when there was a lot more kicking of the ball. Some players were experts at "drop kicking", similar to what is done on Rugby at times.
That fancy forward pass thing was kind of a surprise when it was used in about 1906, and the rules were changed several times as they tried to decide how to fit it into the game.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 11:17 AM

Thanks, Bill, for producing the sweet sound of reason.

The DH and I decided to go out for dinner yesterday, (3 pm) and the first four restaurants we went to were 'closed' for the annual staff party. We were told that it made sense to have the staff party on the slowest day of the year, Superbowl Sunday.

(This was all news to us.)

We had a lovely dinner at the fifth place, and we liked it so much I'm sure we'll be going back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: GUEST,Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 12:21 PM

I just won forty bucks on the game and I didn't even watch it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 01:08 PM

I've heard that US football--or whatever you want to call it--combines the worst of American culture:    senseless violence punctuated by committee meetings.

But any sport that gave us "Dropkick me, Jesus through the goalposts of life" can't be all bad.

I was at a bluegrass gig during the "big game" and tried to get the band to do it.   They like the song but weren't ready.    A terrible missed opportunity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 01:09 PM

Maybe I should have volunteered to do it.   That's my missed opportunity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 01:28 PM

If you compare the FA Laws of 1863 with the Melbourne Football Club Laws of 1858, you might come to the conclusion that Soccer is derived from Ausie Rules.

I might be wrong, but isn't Baltimore the only city to have won championships with 3 Pro Football teams: the Colts, then the Stallions (Grey Cup) and the Ravens (twice)?


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 01:51 PM

1858 .............Hmmmm I think if you read up about Mary, Queen of Scots 1542-1587 you'll find that she was fond of the game of Football and it is rumoured that Henry VIII 1491-1547 owned a pair of Football boots.

Sorry Lads but when it come to history Australia and America are somewhat lacking and the UK is somewhat lacking when compared to many other older civilisations.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: EBarnacle
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 02:20 PM

Welcome back, Raggy. Long time, no read.

The call it Football because all of the contenders are on foot...duh.

The reason for Henry's boots was to kick the heads of his various wives about the field.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 02:45 PM

Close, Dave MacKenzie. Heckuva memory though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 02:46 PM

In 1837 Swarthmore College (a Quaker school) "played" a game against Harvard College in which an ovoid bladder was kicked, carried and thrown so that one team could carry it over a goal at the end of the field. The Swarthmore team was composed of 200+ pound students, each of who was a farmer and could push a plow through a furrow without a horse or mule hitched. The Harvard team consisted of players whose greatest feat was to lift a mug of beer while singing "We are poor little lambs." Swarthmore won 77-1 (a pity goal allowed by Swarthmore) and Harvard named the new game "We're f***ed ball" because of the times the Swarthmore team ground them into the mud of the playing pitch and ran over their backs to score. Over the years this was shortened and made more acceptable in the drawing rooms and parlors of society, eventually becoming the game now known in the US and elswhere as "football."


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 03:23 PM

Now that I like !


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 03:35 PM

That's gen-u-wine history, too! Not a bit of it made up, like most history.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 03:57 PM

I'd written a long reply about the history of football, but it got lost. I'd forgotten about the USFL, but the rest is all in Wikipedia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 04:57 PM

Once again, a mastermind spins a yarn so sweet it's almost honey. Thanks for the laffs, Rap.

Yankee football shouldn't be called football if one can touch the ball one's upper appendages? Gee... where have I heard that before?... a thousand times.

For anyone who hasn't read countless threads herein about such matters, I shall state, yet again... I like em all but Yankee football is the best because it is as much a game of chess (perhaps moreso) as it is a game of physical prowess and it involves and engages it's fans far more than any other. It is, indeed, the ultimate sport. Short of warfare.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 05:09 PM

The way to get a super bowel is to drink lots of water, exercise regularly, and eat plenty of raw food and fiber.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 05:43 PM

No shittin?


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 05:54 PM

The Harvard team consisted of players whose greatest feat was to lift a mug of beer while singing "We are poor little lambs." Rapparee

I thought that was YALE's song?


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 06:24 PM

Yes, it WAS. Harvard won it from them in a game of draughts drawn at McSweeny's just the year before. Yale won it back in the Flowing Bowl of 1839.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 04 Feb 13 - 11:15 PM

Fight fiercely, Harvard.   Impress them with our prowess, do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 01:05 AM

There is no joy in Mudville.....

Word has it that many Californians stayed home sick today. I hear there was hardly any traffic on the freeways in Sacramento this morning.

Myself, I can't say I watch much football. We took a nice hike in the woods during "The Big Game." I did watch a few minutes, though. Then I got distracted and did something else.

-Joe in California-


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 05:58 AM

'The Harvard team consisted of players whose greatest feat was to lift a mug of beer while singing "We are poor little lambs." Rapparee

I thought that was YALE's song?'

Ebbie, did you mean "I thought that was Y'ALE's song?"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 09:50 AM

Couple of thoughts...

First, will a whacked out 49er fan be found to have played a part in the blackout???

Second, I agree with Amos about the safety... I was telling the P-Vine just before Baltimore elected to purposely take the safety that that is exactly what they should do... She didn't get it and then, bam, it happened... I felt vindicated...

Third, how about going back to leather helmets??? Players feel invincible with the ones they have now and if they knew that by leading with their heads was going to cause them pain then they would adjust their technique???

Fourthly and lastly... Pocket QBs v. Option QB's... What's your opinion???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 11:54 AM

They got seriously injured in the days of leather helmets, too.... there just wasn't video and 40 channels of news programs to document and list it all.

When 300lb. guys grab 185lb. guys and run into them and fall on them, stuff is gonna happen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 06:53 PM

"...if they knew that by leading with their heads..."

There are rules governing such and they are strictly enforced,,, even if not called during the game. A fine/suspension may be imposed.
Subsequent infringement can carry more severe penalty.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: gnu
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 07:12 PM

"Pocket QBs v. Option QB's... What's your opinion???"

A QB and a team who can't do both is limited and there are lot's of both that can. So it goes a lot deeper that just that question... all the way to leadership, respect and even if the QB can tell a good joke... hell, it's far more complicated than pocket or option.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 09:06 PM

It will come to the point where all the QBs will be mobile, a running threat who can pass on the move and have a strong arm. Kids will be selected and trained that way from now on. Its been trending that way for some time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Feb 13 - 09:10 PM

I agree, Jts...

The down side is that these QBs won't last much past 26-27 years old... You won't have 35 year old QBs...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 13 - 09:28 AM

I think for the most part you are right. But Mike Vick is over 30 and Brett Farve and Warren Moon had long careers. Some of them will last.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 13 - 11:33 PM

My friend Raptor is a huge 49ers fan. He must have been devastated by their loss to Baltimore on Sunday. I saw him today, mentioned that I'd heard his team had lost, and he said, "I don't want to talk about it."

He has a little stuffed 49ers bear...I think it's a Beanie Baby. It was lying comatose on a nearby counter top, staring at the ceiling with glazed eyes, obviously in a state of shock.

I tried to get the bear to talk about the game too, and got no response at all.

The 49ers football helmet thingie that holds chips and dip which you can eat while you watch the game sat forlornly on the counter. It was empty.

The 49ers flag that normally flies proudly in the front yard is now at halfmast.

The several 49ers 6" tall action figures of famous players on top of the TV all had their faces turned to the wall.

Why someone living in Ontario, Canada would be a 49ers fan, I don't know. It puzzles me. I don't get it. But then, I know very little about football. I'm sure Raptor has his reasons for loving that team, and I trust he will recover soon and pin his hopes on their chances in the next season.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 06 Feb 13 - 11:44 PM

Little Hawk, that is so sad. You are so perceptive and sensitive.
======
I have a question. As I mentioned before, I didn't watch the game. So tell me, what did the broadcasters do during the unexpected 20 minutes with lights out and no play?

To me, that would be a real nightmare. Somebody saying, "Millions of people are watching and there's nothing to see. Do something!"

What did they do?

(I've searched online and not found the answer.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 06:47 AM

What did they do?

I got more wings and beer and checked my email. The network executives and beer companies counted the $$$.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 10:34 AM

The two minutes (it felt like 2 minutes) between when the power went out to the broadcast booth while they were just panning the cameras around showing the lights, both on and off and confused players and coaches was among the best sports coverage I have ever seen. It made me wish I had a mute button on my tv which only cut out the jabbering jocks and just take in the game with the ambient noise.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 01:37 PM

Do what I do, Jack. You can turn the volume down to the point where you can't hear the announcers but you can still hear the sound of the crowd. I don't watch spots much, but when I do that's how I do it.

But I still want to know what they did in the 20 dark minutes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 05:45 PM

The P-Vine is always telling me to shut up during football games 'cause I am like a born annalist... I especially get on defenses... I mostly yell at linebackers and DBs...

Then the P-Vine asks me why this or that happened and I do X's and O's or set stuff up on the table... She likes that part... Just not the yelling...

BTW, she really impressed her sons a few years back at Thanksgiving when she commented that she commented on a game saying, "These guys should get out of that zone and play man"... Her sons all looked at each other with that "Oh shit, mom knows more than we do about this game"... It was funny...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 08:00 PM

Nobody will tell me what the broadcasters did to get through the unexpected 20 minutes with no play. Y'all probably don't know. You weren't really watching the game.

In a movie, a sweet young thing who's trying to make it in show biz as a minor member of Beyonce's show would step up and wow the crowd. That probably didn't happen.

Oh well. I tell my husband that there are only 800 people left who watch television, but he doesn't believe me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Baltimore Wins Super Bowl...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 13 - 09:29 PM

Sorry Leeneia,

Thought you were joking.

For one thing, it was 34 minutes, not 20.

Keep in mind that we the viewers did much as bobert and occupied ourselves otherwise. But from what I saw the announcers did what they usually do during delays. They engaged in pointless speculation about the rest of the game and gave situational updates every few minutes which were mostly useless speculation about when the lights would come on.

The players milled around on the field. It being New Orleans, it is likely that the fans mostly drank.


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