BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Feb 13 - 03:00 PM

While I appreciate the Leveller's views, I should say that there are some opinions, founded in ignorance and bigotry and prejudice, to which nobody has any right. We no longer tolerate racism, sexism, or religious bigotry and it is right that we should not.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 14 Feb 13 - 05:55 PM

Come on you lot grow up!!!!!!!! Any one with any sense knows what we are seeing is the downfall of capitilism and all its evils.

"I still have right to my opinion" NO YOU DONT!! if that opinion is as half arsed, biggoted and ill infrmed as some of you.

I would agree with you, but then we would both be wrong? MY ARSE!!

Stop blaming the chavs and chavesses, immigrants and whover the gutter press are telling us to blame at the moment.

The more intelligant of you out there should have grasped the fact that we are in the middle of a WORLD WIDE FUCKINBG DEPRESSION!!!!!!!!!! creatated by the super rich areseholes playing monopoly with our money.

It is about time some of you pathetic beige asshole woke up and took to the streets.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Feb 13 - 06:07 PM

Please, Guest,concerned, I think some of them are blue arseholes.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 14 Feb 13 - 07:07 PM

Well Richard, cut it anyway you like. Whatever colour there bumholes are,if they were to rise up of of them for once. Direct action is the only way we will get this lot to wake up and take notice

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 15 Feb 13 - 08:12 AM

No reply eh?..................I thought so, gutless as well as armchair socialists.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: theleveller
Date: 15 Feb 13 - 08:59 AM

Not sure what point you're trying to make in your inarticulate, troll-like rantings, GUEST:concerned. But if you're referring to me: how do you know I'm a socialist, armchair or otherwise; how do you know that I'm not involved in direct action (I have been most of my life), why do you think you merit a reply, and what the fuck has it got to do with you anyway? Might be good if you extracted your fat head from your constipated arsehole and took a look at what the real world is like.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 16 Feb 13 - 08:31 AM

Dont like critism eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 16 Feb 13 - 08:45 AM

It really is laughable... you slag me off for my inarticulate troll like rantings and then launch a very insulting written attack on me.

Think it merits a reply?.. you did.


I dont know you, and by your posts dont want to. You sound like a very self oppianated extremly unpleasant person.

My remarks were of a general nature and from the heart.I, like you say you do spend my life challenging through direct action.

Dont like what I say? tough.. live with it... I do.

BTW I do live in he real world.. and I dont like it very much

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: theleveller
Date: 16 Feb 13 - 10:21 AM

At least I can spell :)

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 16 Feb 13 - 03:55 PM

Shallow and hollow little man.Your responce has justified my opinion of you.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 16 Feb 13 - 04:02 PM

Have a nice day

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 16 Feb 13 - 04:26 PM

................while you can.............

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,Guestlex
Date: 16 Feb 13 - 04:29 PM

At least I can spell :) " My guess dyslexic usually means high IQ too,cept in my case I got the looks.Anyway you usually end up getting pwnd like that, so wouldn't take it personal.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 16 Feb 13 - 04:33 PM

Thanks GuestGuestlex,

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Feb 13 - 04:38 PM

No prob don't like to see it,should mind my own, and any point he has just gets dismissed like he dismisses you for your spelling.Mad 8)

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: theleveller
Date: 17 Feb 13 - 03:54 AM

So, concerned, you come on here, start an argument, insult people, and when they turn round and kick your arse you play the 'poor little me' card. I think you should go back to your playpen and not try to play with the grown-ups.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 17 Feb 13 - 06:39 AM

Well mr leveller,few things before I retire undefeated from this post.

1 I suppose you feel remarks like * at least I can spell" constitutes a intellectual victory in your book.

2. never played the poor me card EVER, no evidence in this post of me doing it.

3. No evidence of ass wuppin'

4. Only person to get out of his playpen is you.

5. suggest you take note of guest post and what he says about you.

6.I think you should lighten up and grow up.

You are so way, way ,way out of my league it is embarrasing to carry this on.

And , finally, quite frankly ,you are boring the ass of of me

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie
Date: 17 Feb 13 - 04:11 PM

Bridge forgot to mention political bigotry in his little list.

Talking of which, I notice that Ian Duncan Smith said today that the rulings are just a minor set back and he is pushing through revised regulations to countermand the court for any future attempt. He also said people who think they are too good for supermarkets deserve the Shitty end of the stick, or words to that effect.

You know, when he led the Tories I thought he wasn't representative of the nasty element. Seems I'm wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,okie from muskokee
Date: 17 Feb 13 - 04:14 PM

Hey youse guys..this is some of the funniest shit i have read i.n Years. Keep itup guys common leveller dont let the concerned lollygagger get away with it!! He aint to much of a wiseacre for you is he?

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 17 Feb 13 - 09:02 PM

What little list of mine?

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 18 Feb 13 - 04:40 AM

Thread creep.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 18 Feb 13 - 04:48 AM

whats a lollygagger?

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 18 Feb 13 - 04:56 AM

I was made redundant while we were still under a Labour government. My ex-employer paid me a pension but I thought I'd better sign on because I was under the illusion that the Job Centre might be of help in my search for alternative employment. They promptly informed me that, as a result of my pension, they would be paying me £0 job seekers allowance and that I would 'lose' this princely sum if I didn't turn up for regular interviews (!) Out of curiousity I turned up for my interviews, clutching a folder full of application forms, and they told me that I was "doing all the right things" but they provided me with no help whatsoever.

So I went from being a manager in a R&D department to working in a call centre - which filled a gap until I'd paid off my mortgage. I now find that my pension pays me enough to cover my needs, but not necessarily my wants. All I can say is that I am glad that I was born at a time when people and their skills were valued and were given a 'helping hand up life's ladder'. God help the next few generations!

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 18 Feb 13 - 07:06 AM

Bless you Shimrod. Me thoughts are with you

.But we need to start doing summatt about it ourselves.

Don't look at the labour party ..a real fucking joke... the way out left are that disjointed they spend all their time in intellectual posturing (like some on this thread) and the traitorish liblab or what the fuck they are calling themselves these days.

No Comrades, the only way forward is for us all to form our own coalition of common interest groups.. Trade Unions, green party, tenants associations unemployed, pensioners RMA associations.

A way forward?

please discuss

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 18 Feb 13 - 07:55 AM

Yes, 'concerned', we certainly do. Trouble is that politics in this country are presently dominated by two huge dinosaurs who are still fighting the class wars of the 19th and 20th centuries and have become unfit for purpose. Most Tory voters seem to vote for 'their' party because they hope that it will punish those of a lower social status to themselves (their hopes are presently being fulfilled). Labour party supporters vote for their party because "grandad mined coal with his teeth and if it were good enough fer grandad, it's good enough for me!" - whilst failing to notice that the Labour Party is now another centre-right party that has swallowed the baleful ideology of the neo-liberal, free marketeers 'hook-line-and-sinker' and grandad is revolving so fast in his grave that he's causing local seismic disturbances!

Trouble is, there's not even a hint of a credible alternative on the horizon ... is there?

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 18 Feb 13 - 12:23 PM

Yeh Shimrod you are damned right..but one does live in hope..

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 18 Feb 13 - 12:37 PM

There is no party of any size fighting the class wars (of this or any other century) from the perspective of the oppressed. The current "New Labour" party is not doing it and the conservatives and the lib-dems are actively on the side of the oppressors.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 18 Feb 13 - 02:10 PM

I'd agree with that, Richard, but ask the average Labour supporter/voter and they seem to think that their party IS on the side of the oppressed. It's because of that wilful blindness that we'll probably get another Labour government next time and then all of those blind puppets, who are presently ranting and raving about the evil Tories (can't argue with that!), will fall silent whilst their party pursue neo-liberal 'Blacherite' policies and continue to widen the gulf between rich and poor.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 18 Feb 13 - 05:03 PM

It is less against them than the other main parties. IT is the least bad option.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 18 Feb 13 - 06:32 PM

Hhhhmmm! Yes, do I want to die from TB or smallpox?

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 19 Feb 13 - 06:45 AM

"It is less against them than the other main parties. IT is the least bad option."?

that is exactly the wishy washy, unjoined up thinking that let Hitler come to power.................God, you people really make me want to VOMIT!!!

Was you not born with a brain, dont you read books, or do you wander around blowing bubbles when you aint got your head stuck up your arses?

What really upsets me is that these pricks have got the vote!!! the vote that working folk struggled for years to get.

When are you lot are going to wake up and reallise that this so called Government are the worst we have ever had, with the weakest opposition in the History of the world..

Have none of you read the Ragged Trousered Philanthropists? Read it you intellectual poseurs, it may give some of you some sadly needed ideas of what is wrong.   Then come back and tell me things have changed since that was written.

I will give you an idea what is wrong while you are all goiNg DOHHHHHHHHHHHHH and trying to get your minds out of neutral and your thumbs out of yer bums?

IT IS SIMPLE, THE GODDAMN CAPITALIST SYSTEM..GETTIT?.


And before that smug clown leveller comes back at me..no apologies for the spelling..

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 19 Feb 13 - 07:10 AM

One can be 'concerned' without being vulgar. Never mind your spelling; but do you really not appreciate the extent to which your modes of expression

VOMIT!!! ...when you aint got your head stuck up your arses? ...these pricks ...get your minds out of neutral and your thumbs out of yer bums?...

are liable to have a counter-productive effect on the force of your arguments? You may recall that no such locutions occur anywhere in the book you recommend, The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists, which manages to make it points all the more cogently thereby. We all realise how strongly you feel on these topics. Seems a pity to spoil a good case with such foolish and otiose intemperance.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 19 Feb 13 - 07:36 AM

FYI I have read Ragged Trousers Philanthropist three times, and given two copies away.

I am actively involved in the coop movement, and employed by a worker cooperative.

I see societies I grew up in, and social values I've lived with being torn apart and it gets me right in the stomach.

Wherever possible I advocate for a more cooperative society which RTP talks about and recognises flaws in both capitalism and municipalism, and calls for common ownership from the bottom-up.

I am worried when tories start trying to own the cooperative agenda with no commitment to the values and principles it stands for.

And know I am not a champagne socialist - life is a struggle for me, but I don't moan about my personal lot, but injustices do make me angry.

I do see that capitalism is unsustainable, but so is a municipal top-down approach to social justice. So what is likely to happen because of this? A number of scenarios:

(1) Those with wealth lording over a dispossessed underclass - whether they live or die being of no concern to them.

(2) Societies ruled by international corporations.

(3) A complete breakdown of the social fabric where the man with the biggest gun rules

(4) Societies take responsibility for their own well being and cooperate with each other - derailing the gravy trains but aiming for the common greater good.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 19 Feb 13 - 07:41 AM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.Thanks your comments M.

However, some times it is only the use of approbrious ephithets that can make people aware of the extent of your anger.

I make no excuse for this.One of the most articulate men I know is Billy Connolly and he swears a bit and for the same reasons that I do.

If you want to make this a general sermon, address your remarks to the rank outsider leveller as well, I have had my ration of patronising today.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 19 Feb 13 - 07:46 AM

Good man Comrade cooperator.

Some one at last with a more than modicum of sense

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,okie from muskokee
Date: 20 Feb 13 - 06:20 AM

c'mon you'all..keep it going, were are you all with your smart answers?Or is he to much for you?

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 02:27 AM

He's too much for me. Mind you, he seems to have Bridge weighed up. Nice seeing someone more rabid Trotskyist than M'Learned Friend.

History shows us though that come the glorious revolution the likes of "concerned" are usually first up against the wall. Nobody is a prophet in their own land. It's easy to be cynical when the democratic majority don't share your vision.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 04:49 AM

Oh, I thought you were the posturing clown he was criticising, Mither.
I largely agree with Mr concerned.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 08:02 AM

thankee Comrades..

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 12:34 PM

Hang on a bit though, musket,

"It's easy to be cynical when the democratic majority don't share your vision".

Whats that about then?.It has never been easy to be cynicsl when the so called majority dont share your vision. Im wish I had a pound for every punch up I have had with so called martyred proleteriat, with their muddied minds and half formed political views. In fairness the views that the gutter media has drip fed them.

But I thought no, I thought I may get some kind of an intellectual debate going on this site.. but no here we go again. let down by you wet farts again.

I fucked up, I let me guard down.Here you come again, with half baked clever soundin sound bites that you read in the daily mail or the express..or meebe the guardian

I can see you all now down at the pub, pewter tankard in hand, sweater knotted casually round your shoulders going" oh, of course I am liberal with a small l" tossers and cake eaters to a man.

Better red that goddamn dead you prancing parasites.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: Megan L
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 12:39 PM

Another thread ruined

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerned
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 01:22 PM

Your easily put off arent you Megan pet?

If you dont like it go away and start you own thread.

Mebbe something like." I like knitting egg cosies" or " should I go all the way on the first date?"

This is the real world love, get with it.Or dont worry your pretty little(or otherwise)head about mens matters.

Or meebe get back to Womens Own, or more like Bunty for you.

All that comments like yours do is justify my opinion of you

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: Megan L
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 01:45 PM

Son i grew up in a family fighting against the Glasgow gangs a wee nyaf like you wid feel the wrang end o ma walkin stick. And for your information ya silly wee laddie I am at the moment fighting to retain my invalidity waiting to go to tribuneral so don't gie me yer patronising claptrap.

You want to give me a piece of your mind don't bother its clear you need the little bit you have you want a fight come here and do it face to face not hide behind the internet like a bairn.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 01:50 PM

oooooooooooooooooooer!!

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 21 Feb 13 - 02:03 PM

"But I thought no, I thought I may get some kind of an intellectual debate going on this site.. but no here we go again. let down by you wet farts again".

.,,.


Much entertained, Mr Concerned, by your concept of what passes for 'intellectual debate'!

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 22 Feb 13 - 03:56 AM

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn!talk to the hand MtheGM, the ears aint listening if that is the best you can do.

As I said before go and preach to that other no mark leveller.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 09:24 AM

I see the condems are now undermining the health service.Not privatising as such but not far of.

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 04:07 PM

*when will they ever learn?"

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: GUEST,Richard Bridge on the Laptop away
Date: 23 Feb 13 - 06:56 PM

A bit late noticing that, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Compulsory Unpaid Work Found Unlawful
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 24 Feb 13 - 02:18 AM

talk to the hand MtheGM, the ears aint listening if that is the best you can do
.,,.
Not the best I can do by any means, Concernedy·Bum, but just about what the fatuity I was responding to was worth. Why would I waste the best I can do on one of your exiguous intellect.

☺〠☺~M~☺〠☺