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Rain Dog 06 Dec 12 - 02:54 AM
Gibb Sahib 06 Dec 12 - 03:10 AM
GUEST,Big Al Whittle 06 Dec 12 - 05:00 AM
GUEST,Big Al Whittle 06 Dec 12 - 05:58 AM
Charley Noble 06 Dec 12 - 07:52 AM
Gibb Sahib 07 Dec 12 - 05:18 PM
sciencegeek 26 Feb 13 - 09:00 PM
GUEST 26 Feb 13 - 09:06 PM
GUEST 27 Feb 13 - 01:51 PM
Gibb Sahib 27 Feb 13 - 02:32 PM
GUEST,Mrr 22 Mar 13 - 12:14 AM
Lighter 22 Mar 13 - 08:57 AM
Rain Dog 22 Mar 13 - 11:38 AM
r.padgett 22 Mar 13 - 12:28 PM
GUEST,Russ 22 Mar 13 - 12:38 PM
Kim C 22 Mar 13 - 03:48 PM
GUEST,Folknacious 22 Mar 13 - 04:16 PM
Mrrzy 23 Mar 13 - 12:44 PM
GUEST,Russ 23 Mar 13 - 04:22 PM
r.padgett 24 Mar 13 - 05:57 AM
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Subject: Son of Rogue's Gallery
From: Rain Dog
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 02:54 AM

Remember when Johnny Depp, his Pirates of the Caribbean director Gore Verbinski, and producer Hal Willner corralled a group of artists-- among them Lou Reed, Nick Cave, Bono, Van Dyke Parks, and Bryan Ferry-- to record new versions of old "pirate ballads, sea songs, and chanteys"? That 2006 compilation, Rogue's Gallery, is getting a second installment.

Willner, Depp, and Verbinski have spearheaded the sequel, which is out on Anti- on February 19, and called Son of Rogue's Gallery: Pirate Ballads, Sea Songs and Chanteys. The two-disc comp features Tom Waits teaming up with Keith Richards, Patti Smith teaming up with Johnny Depp, Courtney Love teaming up with Michael Stipe, Iggy Pop teaming up with A Hawk and a Hacksaw, plus Nick Cave and Warren Ellis, Michael Gira of Swans, Broken Social Scene, Antony, and many more.

Listen as the Pogues' Shane MacGowan, Depp, and Verbinski take on the chanty "Leaving of Liverpool" at Rolling Stone.


Leaving of Liverpool


Depp, Verbinski, and Willner were inspired to put together the Rogue's Gallery albums while on the set of the 2006 film Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest.

Disc 1:

01 Shane MacGowan: "Leaving of Liverpool" [ft. Johnny Depp and Gore Verbinski]
02 Robyn Hitchcock: "Sam's Gone Away"
03 Beth Orton: "River Come Down"
04 Sean Lennon: "Row Bullies Row" [ft. Jack Shit]
05 Tom Waits: "Shenandoah" [ft.Keith Richards]
06 Ivan Neville: "Mr Stormalong"
07 Iggy Pop: "Asshole Rules the Navy" [ft. A Hawk and a Hacksaw]
08 Macy Gray: "Off to Sea Once More"
09 Ed Harcourt: "The Ol' OG"
10 Shilpa Ray: "Pirate Jenny" [ft. Nick Cave and Warren Ellis]
11 Patti Smith and Johnny Depp: "The Mermaid"
12 Chuck E Weiss: "Anthem for Old Souls"
13 Ed Pastorini: "Orange Claw Hammer"
14 The Americans: "Sweet and Low"
15 Robin Holcomb and Jessica Kenny: "Ye Mariners All"
16 Gavin Friday and Shannon McNally: "Tom's Gone to Hilo"
17 Kenny Wollesen and The Himalayas Marching Band: "Bear Away"

Disc 2:

01 Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention: "Handsome Cabin Boy"
02 Michael Stipe and Courtney Love: "Rio Grande"
03 Marc Almond: "Ship in Distress"
04 Dr John: "In Lure of the Tropics"
05 Todd Rundgren: "Rolling Down to Old Maui"
06 Dan Zanes: "Jack Tar on Shore" [ft. Broken Social Scene]
07 Sissy Bounce (Katey Red and Big Freedia): "Sally Racket" [ft. Akron/Family]
08 Broken Social Scene: "Wild Goose"
09 Marianne Faithfull: "Flandyke Shore" [ft. Kate and Anna McGarrigle]
10 Ricky Jay: "The Chantey of Noah and his Ark (Old School Song)"
11 Michael Gira: "Whiskey Johnny"
12 Petra Haden: "Sunshine Life for Me" [ft. Lenny Pickett]
13 Jenni Muldaur: "Row the Boat Child"
14 Richard Thompson: "General Taylor" [ft. Jack Shit]
15 Tim Robbins: "Marianne" [ft. Matthew Sweet and Susanna Hoffs]
16 Kembra Phaler: "Barnacle Bill the Sailor [ft. Antony, Joseph Arthur, and Foetus]
17 Angelica Huston: "Missus McGraw" [ft. The Weisberg Strings]
18 Iggy Pop and Elegant Too: "The Dreadnought"
19 Mary Margaret O'Hara: "Then Said the Captain to Me (Two Poems of the Sea)"


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogue's Gallery
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 03:10 AM

What, no 50 Cent?


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogue's Gallery
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:00 AM

Cor blimey guv! Them posh folk don't arf know how to live...


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogue's Gallery
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:58 AM

the absence of Mick Peat is puzzling....not that we're big mates or anything.


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogue's Gallery
From: Charley Noble
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 07:52 AM

Catch the wave, so they say!

I certainly can say that this rendition of "The Leaving of Liverpool" is not to my taste; I'd start by deleting the drum track. Then I might be able to hear what's left... But the promoters are launching a major nautical music initiative which will attract the attention of a vastly larger and younger audience that currently attends our concerts and special events.

I wish them well!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogue's Gallery
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 05:18 PM

I'm all for launching initiatives, ships, etc.

Disappointed that these projects are almost entirely rock-ish performers doing "COVERS" of Folk Revival recorded renditions. It's another layer of veneer over the paint of a broken down barn.


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Subject: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: sciencegeek
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 09:00 PM

Well, as of Feb. 19 the world of rock once again meets music of the sea, 2 CDs worth. Yo ho, me hearties, yo ho.


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Feb 13 - 09:06 PM

And it is a wondrous thing. My copy turned up from Amazon today. It contains the best version of Sally Racket I ever heard.


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 01:51 PM

It's a great collection but I know the purists will hate it.


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:32 PM

Is liking this so taboo that one must be an anonymous guest to do so? :0

Say more, guys/gals! Elaboration!

I think some of the renditions are very well done. I suppose I am both a purist *and* someone who appreciates creativity, so I can find things in it that both please and irk me. "Sally Racket" was well done, in my opinion.
The items I like least are the ones that feel like direct cover songs of earlier "folk revival" versions. I'd have preferred the new renditions were crafted from more "original" sources. I also think there needs to be more acknowledgement of the use of folk revival renditions as sources. In the absence of that acknowledgement, one creates the impression that the versions are "traditional" and "out there". I'd have to check, but for example I guessed that a song like Iggy Pop's was just a cover version of Jerry Bryant's recorded rendition. I think it's relevant to credit Jerry Bryant rather can giving the illusion that the song floated over to Iggy Pop out of the nebulous and free pool of traditional song... Dunno if I have the details right, though; I don't own the physical album.


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Subject: Review: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 12:14 AM

There was a kickass review of this new compilation of sea chanteys pirate songs etc, I heard on npr - search npr.org for "pirate songs" snd it pops right up. Sorry am on my rectangle so cannot copy&paste. Loved almost all the songs despite them being nee to me... opinions? Chanteyranger?


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: Lighter
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 08:57 AM

> It's another layer of veneer over the paint of a broken down barn.

Exactly.

I'm not a purist, but when performers with zero feeling for the real thing turn out for quick cash "covers" (as Gibb says) that masquerade as historical and cultural artifacts, and the old gorge starts to rise.

There were a handful of respectable performances on the first album (Eliza Carthy was great) and I expect there are some on the second.

Of course, I'd never quarrel with anyone's right to spend money on and enjoy the hell out of crap. Its production is a cornerstone of our economy. Party on!


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: Rain Dog
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 11:38 AM

Interview on NPR with Hal Willner the producer of this cd

NPR-Hal Willner

and it seems that the Waits/Richards version was based on a recording by the X Seamen's Institute

The X Seamen's Institute - "Shenandoah"


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: r.padgett
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 12:28 PM

What I have is in my view appalling

Can't sing, rude and is absolutely awful, not folk in any sense and a very poor advert for folk music, if it is meant to be (well they are folk songs but now come on)

Must be a very bad joke meant to detract from the brilliant shanty singers, in uk

Basically hands off****

Ray


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 12:38 PM

Idiosyncratic arrangements but a lot of fun to listen to.
Russ (Permanent GUEST)


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: Kim C
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 03:48 PM

I agree with Russ. It's fun party music, and it's interesting to see the spin the different artists put on these songs, but that's about it for me. I won't be singing along with it in the car or anything, and I won't be putting it on my iPod.


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: GUEST,Folknacious
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 04:16 PM

What I have is in my view appalling Can't sing, rude and is absolutely awful, not folk in any sense and a very poor advert for folk music

In other words its brilliant. My favourite album of the year so far.


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Mar 13 - 12:44 PM

Reminds me somehow of Enjoy Every Sandwich...


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 23 Mar 13 - 04:22 PM

What Kim C. said.

Russ (Permanent GUEST)


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Subject: RE: Son of Rogues Gallery
From: r.padgett
Date: 24 Mar 13 - 05:57 AM

Yes it is absolutely awful stuff!

Ray


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