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BS: Nixon and Treason

GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 17 Mar 13 - 11:09 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 17 Mar 13 - 11:44 AM
Ebbie 17 Mar 13 - 12:07 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 17 Mar 13 - 01:39 PM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 17 Mar 13 - 01:53 PM
gnu 17 Mar 13 - 04:20 PM
bobad 17 Mar 13 - 04:41 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 17 Mar 13 - 05:53 PM
gnu 17 Mar 13 - 06:44 PM
Ebbie 17 Mar 13 - 07:30 PM
Bobert 17 Mar 13 - 08:17 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 18 Mar 13 - 01:18 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 18 Mar 13 - 01:29 AM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 18 Mar 13 - 04:41 AM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 18 Mar 13 - 04:46 AM
Stringsinger 18 Mar 13 - 10:48 AM
Bobert 18 Mar 13 - 11:01 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 18 Mar 13 - 11:27 AM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 18 Mar 13 - 01:32 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 18 Mar 13 - 02:59 PM
Bobert 18 Mar 13 - 05:41 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 18 Mar 13 - 08:17 PM
GUEST,Niggardly Bastard 19 Mar 13 - 01:30 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 19 Mar 13 - 02:43 AM
Bobert 19 Mar 13 - 07:41 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 19 Mar 13 - 11:45 AM

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Subject: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 11:09 AM

This is news to me.
Tricky Dick was committing treason even before he became president.
And LBJ just let it slide. ( I hear LBJ was in on the Kennedy Assassination too, but that's another can of b.s.)
Nixon the Traitor


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 11:44 AM

Hi, Niggardly..I got the same story...and bobert and others don't think the two paries don't co-operate...When they finally find out why, it'll rock their world!
Oh well, as I've said in the past..."Snap now, and avoid the rush!"

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 12:07 PM

Question: If LBJ/Nixon are to be accused of treason, what about
Everett Dirksen? According to the story- and I would like to read a WHOLE LOT more - LBJ informed Dirksen- and Dirksen did nothing? Something smells.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 01:39 PM

According to the law, EVERYBODY or ANYBODY who knew about it, and didn't come forward, at least to the Justice Department, is guilty...according to the law...as if anybody even cares, anymore.
..but then, what have I been saying all along?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 01:53 PM

Now we know why Ford gave Nixon a blanket pardon covering any and all crimes. They knew Watergate was only the tip of the iceberg.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: gnu
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 04:20 PM

Gosh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: bobad
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 04:41 PM

He wasn't called Tricky Dicky for nothing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 05:53 PM

Not to mention, the activity, and players over in 'Golden Triangle Land'.....oh, you mean the same players in 'Group 40'...you mean the same group of Cubans found in the Watergate Hotel??...Whadya' mean??..Why Cubans??.....oh wait, I remember..left overs from the 'Bay of Pigs' fiasco....but what does that have to do with Nixon..dummy??....oh wait, that's right!..the same Nixon that met in the Fountain Blue Hotel, in 1959 with Meyer Lansky's main guy, Santo Trafficante....oh yeah..it's all coming back to me...Let me see..what did that group do?

Need I say more?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: gnu
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 06:44 PM

Whoa up here... he was a Republican and he did all that shit? And then resigned? And then got a free pass from all of it? Nahhhh... come on. That kinda shit can't happen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 07:30 PM

Like I said, Gary, something smells.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 08:17 PM

I don't know about treason but...

...both Nixon and LBJ were complete screw-ups...

Johnson didn't have the balls to end the war after Kennedy got killed even though he knew it was a screwed up war... He told his chief of staff that much and said he would end it after the '64 election... That didn't happen...

Nixon basically edged Humphrey because of two factors... First, Humphrey has vowed to end the bombing as part of his presidency... Then three weeks before the election LBJ ordered the bombing stopped taking one of the biggies outta Humphrey's hand while, second, Nixon was campaigning on his "Secret Plan" to end the war... It was so secret that Nixon himself didn't know what it was...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 01:18 AM

That's right, gnu...and even more, but things just began to have a life(or lives), of their own. The same folks who were involved in the Golden Triangle, later became key figures in Central America, but instead of heroin, the commodity was coke....and later fomented the Iran-Contra affair....which problems and aftermath we still live with today. Jeez, it's a long history, but it's all true...and got uncovered during the court case, brought by the Christic Institute, in Florida. It wasn't covered much in the media, (probably for 'National Security(?)' reasons). If you're really interested, there is a book, entitled 'Out of Control', it will blow your fucking mind! I'm pretty sure all this stuff is readily available....(or if not, I'd better put a lid back on it!).
Forget this 'party' nonsense, that, in reality has been out the window for a long time..it's only the dupes who perpetuate the myth.....but we all love mythical characters!....don't we?..and we all root for 'our side' or boo 'your side'...but the beat goes on, and the 'government(?) that you think we have...well, I'm sorry to say, doesn't exist! This is all theater...a distraction, from the real workings that have been going on for some time, and it blows me away, that the folk/protest movement people, have completely been blinded...when years before, a lot of them had the inside poop on a lot of stuff...but then, that's what distractions are designed for...and you thought Hollywood was the only ones paying for script writers!
'T would be really nice, if certain folks, in here, (and other wheres) would get their ever-lovin' heads out of their asses, THEN start writing in the spirit that the could, before they got co-opted!!
Oh well, that's another story...
In the meantime, I guess they'll be championing all the 'hot topic' nonsense...no matter how much horseshit the have to shovel!
As for me, I clock the angst that exists between the imaginary popularizations, and incorporate it into the music....and I don't even have to use lyrics.
It's in the music!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 01:29 AM

Scrap the other post...I had edit, insert, and to correct some typos.


That's right, gnu...and even more, but things just began to have a life(or lives), of their own. The same folks who were involved in the Golden Triangle, later became key figures in Central America, but instead of heroin, the commodity was coke....and later fomented the Iran-Contra affair....which problems and aftermath we still live with today. Jeez, it's a long history, but it's all true...and got uncovered during the court case, brought by the Christic Institute, in Florida. It wasn't covered much in the media, (probably for 'National Security(?)' reasons). If you're really interested, there is a book, entitled 'Out of Control', it will blow your fucking mind! I'm pretty sure all this stuff is readily available....(or if not, I'd better put a lid back on it!).
Forget this 'party' nonsense, that, in reality has been out the window for a long time..it's only the dupes who perpetuate the myth.....but we all love mythical characters!....don't we?..and we all root for 'our side' or boo 'your side'...but the beat goes on, and the 'government(?) that you think we have...well, I'm sorry to say, doesn't exist! This is all theater...a distraction, from the real workings that have been going on for some time, and it blows me away, that the folk/protest movement people, have completely been blinded...when years before, a lot of them had the inside poop on a lot of stuff once...but then, that's what distractions are designed for...and you thought Hollywood was the only ones paying big bucks for script writers!....the media should get an Academy Award for 'Best Original Screenplay for a Fictional Soap Opera'!!!....and a lot of you are even caught up in it!
'T would be really nice, if certain folks, in here, (and other wheres) would get their ever-lovin' heads out of their asses, THEN start writing in the spirit that they could, before they got co-opted!!
Oh well, that's another story...
In the meantime, I guess they'll be championing all the 'hot topic' nonsense...no matter how much horseshit they think they have to shovel!
As for me, I clock the angst that exists between the imaginary polarizations, and incorporate it into the music....and I don't even have to use lyrics.
It's in the music!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 04:41 AM

Do you recall when President Obama was newly elected and he started mumbling things about Bush and Cheney and War Crimes?
I think Mr. Obama got this message from his owners on Wall Street.
Mister Obama?


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 04:46 AM

Link didn't work. Try again.
Mister Obama?


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: Stringsinger
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 10:48 AM

Actually the Tea Party is treasonous. They are out to destroy the American government.
The GOP is also implicated.

Nixon was one of many.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 11:01 AM

Yup...

Don't tell me that the Tea Party and it's host, the Republican Party, don't fully understand that Keynsian economics... Oh, they understand alright... That's why they are intent on the wrongest of wrong policies: austerity...

And they are real pissed off at Paul Krugman because he has consistently called out their little ballgame...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 11:27 AM

So, if you point out the Tea Party, how does that annul the fact, that Nixon, and the rest is any more justified???
Bobert, with all due respects, we've been around this bush before, about how corrupt Johnson was. I posted NUMEROUS links for you, when both Congress and the Senate, on both parties were grilling Bernanke and Geithner(among others) about, their handling of the finances...and you posted that you didn't even look at them....and, of course, I've maintained, even more NUMEROUSLY that the whole shootin' match is corrupt beyond belief..to which you reply that I'm just posting Republican 'talking points' or you shift the attention over to the Tea Party, which you're doing now.
What did Nixon have to do with the Tea Party??? Rather, what we have is one corrupt enterprise layering another corrupt enterprise.
That being said, I believe that most of the rank and file, of the Democrats, Republicans or Tea Party are sincere believers that 'their party' is the correct path..but now you know....and hopefully it matters. The best tool/weapon you have, is located somewhere between your heart, brain, has strings on it, and in your hands! ...just like before!! We should really stop fighting each other, and the petty issues that divide the country, stay focused, and be a force for truth...which is NOT found, nor is a monopoly in any of the political parties. They've all been 'given' a little truth and some misinformation...just enough to leave them powerless, but enough to make them vulnerable, to the 'other party's arguments! The last thing that the lying crooks want, is to have the public armed with the truth!...not just about 'little issues'...but the bigger picture, in which we all, as a people, nation, world ALL lose!..and have lost enough.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 01:32 PM

Truth Prevails.( my family motto ).
I approve GfS's message.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 02:59 PM

Well you must have come from an honorable family!
You seem to be neither niggardly..nor a bastard!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 05:41 PM

Yo, GfinS, if you think I'm going to defend LBJ or Nixon on their Vietnam policies then you'll be waiting a long time... Never going to happen...

As I pointed out, LBJ told his chief of staff that he would end the war after the '64 election... But he didn't have the balls to do it... The hawks were too strong...

As for Nixon??? He was even worse... He lied in the '68 campaign saying he had a "Secret Plan" to end the war... Uh huh, Dick...

Treason??? I donno... War criminals??? Yeah... Both of them...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 08:17 PM

No, I wasn't waiting for anything....but you did say, before, that you thought LBJ was a really great President....we went 'round about about it..I was calling him corrupt....remember?
glad to see you're seeing better.

Regards To Better Eyesight!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard
Date: 19 Mar 13 - 01:30 AM

I think bobette just suffers from Oppositional Defiant Syndrome.
He likes to argue.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Mar 13 - 02:43 AM

You mean he argues BOTH sides of an argument???
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.

OK..OK I'll settle it,,It was the Tea Party and the Republicans!!!
The Democrats are above all that....my Mommy told me so!!

You think he really believes that??

No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.
No, he doesn't.
Yes he does.

Damn Tea Party!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Mar 13 - 07:41 AM

LBJ a great president??? Did I say that??? Hmmmmmm??? I don't think I said that, GfinS...

I have stated, however, that when it came to domestic issues he had the balls to do a lot of stuff that, as a Southern senator, he didn't have to do but did anyway... He has my respect for those accomplishments... He could have taken the path of least resistance... Anyone who believes in civil rights owes him at least a little respect for that...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Nixon and Treason
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Mar 13 - 11:45 AM

If you look though the history books that are presented to our children. If you listen to politicians and pundits. If you talk to your neighbors or friends. Most, would not even believe many facts of the lost history in the Civil Rights Movement. This is a travesty of truth, and the people that have been most afflicted by this have been the African American community for not really understanding the truth about the Democrat Party and how they have buried the truth about their past.

Were you aware that even under FDR's "New Deal" program that was to benefit lower income segments of the population, African Americans were still segregated in Soup Lines and Bread Lines?
In the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes.

It was not until Truman used the executive order that the military finally became desegregated. It should also be noted that LBJ was not the great Crusader of Civil Rights. President Johnson made a 360— turn in his civil rights position when he became President, from 1940 to 1960 Johnson voted with the South 78% on civil rights issues. Prior to 1957, Johnson voted with the South 100% on civil rights issues. He also voted against the C.R.A. of 1957 and 1960.

Were you aware that in order to break the racist ways of Southern Democrats, it was Republican President Eisenhower who sponsored both Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act and it was a LBJ lead Senate who fought tooth and nail against them? Ike finally signed a watered down Civil Rights Bill. Yes, let me repeat that, Republican President Dwight Eisenhower sponsored and signed the first Civil Rights Bill. Did you know that? In 1957 President Eisenhower signed the Civil Rights Act of 1957, which was intended to guarantee the voting rights of all African Americans. This was the first Civil Rights legislation to pass since Reconstruction. He also was forced to send Federal troops to Little Rock Arkansas to escort black students entering a formally all white school. Now today all we here in regards to Civil Rights legislation centers around the 1964 C.R.A., but this is leaving out some of the most important parts. Including the fact that LBJ, prior to moving up to the Executive Office, opposed legislation favoring civil rights for African Americans in this country. One should ask, why this is no longer taught in our schools to children?


I apologize for the following language but we have to understand the truth that is not being told any longer. The following quotes are LBJ quotes:

    "I'll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One -

    "These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference."—LBJ


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