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BS: The seasons

Dave Hanson 21 Mar 13 - 05:02 AM
Will Fly 21 Mar 13 - 05:05 AM
GUEST,Eliza 21 Mar 13 - 06:15 AM
Nigel Parsons 21 Mar 13 - 07:23 AM
Rapparee 21 Mar 13 - 08:24 AM
ranger1 21 Mar 13 - 08:47 AM
Sandra in Sydney 21 Mar 13 - 09:42 AM
Dave Hanson 21 Mar 13 - 09:45 AM
Dave Hanson 21 Mar 13 - 09:48 AM
Rumncoke 21 Mar 13 - 11:13 AM
Will Fly 21 Mar 13 - 11:58 AM
Ebbie 21 Mar 13 - 12:12 PM
Dave Hanson 21 Mar 13 - 12:23 PM
Pete Jennings 22 Mar 13 - 11:17 AM
GUEST,DrWord 22 Mar 13 - 11:37 AM
Jack the Sailor 22 Mar 13 - 03:29 PM
Dave Hanson 22 Mar 13 - 04:23 PM
gnomad 22 Mar 13 - 05:08 PM
JennieG 22 Mar 13 - 05:08 PM
Jack the Sailor 22 Mar 13 - 05:14 PM
Bill D 22 Mar 13 - 07:25 PM
ragdall 22 Mar 13 - 07:53 PM
GUEST,999 22 Mar 13 - 09:09 PM
Sandra in Sydney 22 Mar 13 - 09:14 PM
Dave Hanson 23 Mar 13 - 05:24 AM
Pete Jennings 23 Mar 13 - 06:54 AM
McGrath of Harlow 23 Mar 13 - 09:49 AM
Bonzo3legs 23 Mar 13 - 10:45 AM
ranger1 23 Mar 13 - 11:09 AM
Ebbie 23 Mar 13 - 11:48 AM
keberoxu 16 Sep 16 - 11:09 AM
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Senoufou 09 May 18 - 03:46 AM
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Subject: BS: The seasons
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 05:02 AM

Here in the UK we are now into the sixth month of winter, this leaves only six months to fit in the other three seasons before we are back into winter, how does that work out then ?

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Will Fly
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 05:05 AM

Define your terms, sir.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 06:15 AM

I know Dave, and it's driving me mad! I'm just aching for some warmth and sunshine, so are the poor birds and wild creatures. It's very depressing isn't it? Normally at this time, I've got the unheated greenhouse choc-a-bloc with the hanging baskets planted up, seedlings, cuttings, tubs etc. It's standing there empty and bare, and covered with frost. I've got spring flowers in the garden firmly shut, crocuses sulking, snowdrops still in flower, daffs and tulips half an inch tall and stunted. Would this be global warming do you think?


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 07:23 AM

To quote Flanders & Swann:

A Song of the Weather

January brings the snow,
Makes your feet and fingers glow.

February's ice and sleet
Freeze the toes tight off your feet.

Welcome March with wintry wind
Would thou wert not so unkind!

April brings the sweet spring showers,
On and on for hours and hours.

Farmers fear unkindly May
Frost by night and hail by day.

June just rains and never stops
Thirty days and spoils the crops.

In July the sun is hot.
Is it shining? No, it's not.

August, cold and dank and wet,
Brings more rain than any yet.

Bleak September's mist and mud
Is enough to chill the blood.

Then October adds a gale,
Wind and slush and rain and hail.

Dark November brings the fog
Should not do it to a dog.

Freezing wet December, then
Bloody January again!


Cheers
Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 08:24 AM

By cracky, if you can't stand the cold get out of the refrigerator, I always say! You just move to Scotland if you want balmy weather, by cracky!


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: ranger1
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 08:47 AM

Welcome to our weather.

ranger1, posting from Maine where we just got a foot of snow on the first day of spring.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 09:42 AM

Sydney's summer is still going strong! It's half-past midnight & we have 22.6 Celcius with 73% humidity.

In a few hours we will get our forecast minimum of 21C & later today we will get 28, with a chance of a storm late afternoon

We'll have a cool night of 19 later this week! but all others will be 20 to 22, & days 27 to 29.

On Wednesday we'll head south to Canberra for the National Folk Festival where nights will fall to 10-14, & days rise to 25-29.

I'm glad I'm not in Canberra now as temperature is 15.6 & humidity 94%. Why am I complaining about Sydney's humidity?

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 09:45 AM

Sydney's summer still going strong, soft southerner.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 09:48 AM

To Will Fly, how long will spring last ? how long will summer last ? and how long will the autumn last ? we've only got 6 months to get them all in.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Rumncoke
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 11:13 AM

We'll probably just get them all within one day from time to time - or one day it will alter from wet and cold to blistering drought and remain unaltered until it changes to hurricanes or an ice age.

That is the thing about climate change, it is totally unpredictable.

I'm just glad that I chose a house on top of a ridge last time we moved. We can see the millionaires' houses down on the water's edge in Poole harbour from the back windows - we might have some interesting things to watch in our old age.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Will Fly
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 11:58 AM

Ah, Dave - Spring runs from March 21st to May 20th. Summer is from May 21st to 20th August. Then Autumn from 21st August to 20th November. Finally, Winter - from 21st November to 20th March.

Those are the seasons. They all fit together into 12 months.

Now - the weather - ah, well, that's a different matter...!

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 12:12 PM

Rain Country

In the Winter it's raining; the clouds are dark and low
It's the normal condition, everybody wants it so
With snow-covered mountains, the valleys wet below
In Southeast Alaska, we have more rain than snow

In Spring the clouds are heavy with impending change
Fog and hail, brief sun and wind we go all the range
There is no predicting but always -or in the main-
In Southeast Alaska in Spring there is rain

Ah, but in the Summer the misty air's serene
Clothes damp-dry on the line, the grass is cool and green
But hang your coat by the fire lest you go out again
In Southeast Alaska Summer brings rain

In Autumn the storms return, dark clouds are in the sky
Wind strips leaves from all the trees and sends them flying high
Waters rush and galoshes slosh, a familiar refrain:
In Southeast Alaska it's raining. Again.

We're a special kind of people who live here, don't you know
We've made our peace with weather, with rain not with snow
So we take pride in saying, though it may cause some pain:
This is Southeast Alaska- bring on the rain!


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 21 Mar 13 - 12:23 PM

Well done will, although it may officially be ' spring ' there is heavy snow forecast this weekend, so to all intents an purposes, it's still winter, probably until April, at least.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 11:17 AM

The snow came early, Dave! Ww had blizzard conditions last night here in Staffs.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: GUEST,DrWord
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 11:37 AM

No success in my attempt to catch the "zodiacal light" after equinox sunset, whether too much thin cloud, too much moon, don't know. But the recent dump of white stuff atop the meter already on the ground made for a pretty sunset. Seasons? More likely than not, we'll have flooding on the Red River [of the North]. Then we'll see about summer. We usually get some. For now, it's just great to have the extra daylight.

keep cool sandra
keep dry ebbie
I'm off to the woodpile, through way too much white stuff

keep on pickin'
dennis


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 03:29 PM

Semi-serious question. In school in Newfoundland we learned that England had "semi-tropical" weather with very mild winters and relatively long summers because of the Gulf Stream. Has the Gulf Stream change or is winter there still better than the rest of Northern Europe?


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 04:23 PM

Pete, up here [ West Yorkshire ] the snow started last night and it still hasn't stopped.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: gnomad
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 05:08 PM

I seem to remember that UK schools taught that we have a maritime climate, though I forget what they reckoned that meant.

A significant element is said to be the Gulf Stream, which gives us milder winters than continental places of similar latitude, but also cooler (and damper) summers than those same places. A sort of moderating effect overall, and it seems widely believed that if it were not for the Gulf Stream our islands would be a less pleasant place to live.

I hadn't previously considered our climate as semi-tropical (it seems pretty unlikely here during the winter on the north-east coast of England) but any term is likely to mean different things to different folks.

There's a large wikipedia entry here which has much to say on the subject of UK climate. Last summer felt pretty feeble, and this winter a bit harsh, but it would need some serious study to say whether this is more than just an anomaly.

I wish I could remember who came up with the lovely view "Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody actually does anything."


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: JennieG
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 05:08 PM

Ah, Sandra.....don't believe everything you read! Last night was a wee bit chilly here in beautiful Canberra, the minimum was 7.4 deg C just an hour ago at 7.14 am. Lovely autumnal Canberra weather.......


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 05:14 PM

I'd like to shake the hand of the man who said "Don't talk to Aussies about weather

gnomad, I thought that "semi tropical" was a stretch at the time and I was not yet a teen. I now living in Coastal North Carolina, we have palm trees and this is called "temperate."


But as compared to Northern Newfoundland, on "Iceberg Alley" where the Labrador current rules, It is very "tropical" here.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 07:25 PM

Washington DC... went below freezing last night.

I have spent far too long now using a heating pad and/or socks filled with microwaved rice to make my bed tolerable to get into.
We have NOT, however, had the 12-18 inch snows like we did a couple years ago, so I haven't had to dig the car out for 3 days each time.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: ragdall
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 07:53 PM

First Day of Spring in Northern British Columbia.

Dave, with all due respect, your expectations are the problem. In some places, "Spring" is blossoming boughs and daffodils. Not where you are, not this year. Where I live it's wetter snow, lots of it, and the sound of returning swans and geese.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 09:09 PM

"Here in the UK we are now into the sixth month of winter, this leaves only six months to fit in the other three seasons before we are back into winter, how does that work out then ?"

Best I can reckon you have two months each of spring, summer and fall ahead. Here in Canada, we have but two seasons. They are winter and July.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 22 Mar 13 - 09:14 PM

Good to hear from you Jennie, as always I'll be bringing my 80% down quilt! I'm not planning to bring my heavy coat, cos I have a new red fleece jacket & other warm layers.

And a new red summer shirt for the day time!

red is the theme this year

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Mar 13 - 05:24 AM

The last 2 days have seen the UKs heaviest snowfalls this winter ? or spring if you would be pedantic, and it's still feckin snowing.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 23 Mar 13 - 06:54 AM

Yep, still blowin' a blizzard here in Staffordshire. At this time of year the ducks come off the canal to find a nesting place on one of the local lawns. There's a couple of them outside now, trying to find a lawn, but it'll be a while yet before they're able to see one...


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Mar 13 - 09:49 AM

"Always Winter and never Christmas."


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 23 Mar 13 - 10:45 AM

Flying to Malaga sun on Tuesday - always assumimg that the roads are clear to London Gatwick Airport! My sister's flight to Pisa delayed by 150 minutes this morning due to shortage of plane de-icers!


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: ranger1
Date: 23 Mar 13 - 11:09 AM

When you get 32 inches of snow in two days, you can call it a blizzard. Otherwise, it's just a regular snowstorm.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Mar 13 - 11:48 AM

Well, that's not quite right, Tami. I believe a blizzard designation depends on three criteria: velocity, temperature and volume.

I remember when I was on a train heading to Chicago on my way to Toronto, the wind blew, it was AWFULLY cold, so cold the snow turned to thick ice on the tracks and we repeatedly had to stop and wait while they deiced them- but there were only six or so vertical inches of snow so they said it wasn't a blizzard.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 Sep 16 - 11:09 AM

Seasons versus weather? Seems to be where most of the previous posts are headed. Right now the seasons are changing where I live. That means that last night was cool enough for comfortable sleeping, for the first time in a long while.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Sep 16 - 11:55 AM

The most accurate description of the British climate I heard (can't remember where now) was that it consists of nine months of winter and three months of bad weather.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 16 Sep 16 - 10:32 PM

Where I live in the US, we say we have two seasons: winter and road work.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 May 18 - 04:41 PM

It's one of the changeable times of year again.
The antipodes are cooling down
and to the North it is warming up.

My car still has an ice scraper tucked into a door compartment.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Senoufou
Date: 09 May 18 - 03:46 AM

It must be late Spring. Those blessed swans have produced SIX cygnets again and no doubt will soon be leading them painfully along our main street in the village every morning heading for the lakes, then staggering back half a mile to the river for the night. Lorries and too-fast cars may squash them flat. So upsetting. Why DO they do this every year?
On a happier note, heard the cuckoo yesterday, and the house martins are back, although far fewer than last year.

And all the fields around here have been set with oil seed rape. Garishly bright yellow flowers and wretched pollen. Husband sneezing already.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: keberoxu
Date: 11 May 18 - 01:13 PM

I'm cheering for spring, over here, as versus summer.
It will be summer soon enough.

But if it would just stay a bit on the cool side for now, please.
Now that the freezing stuff is well and truly gone,
it would be nice
if the weather did not heat up too fast.

Give the green growing things
time to enjoy being green
before being browned by the heat of the summer sun.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Senoufou
Date: 11 May 18 - 01:39 PM

Same here keberoxu. We have a large circular flowerbed filled with wild bluebells. Over the Bank Holiday the temperature was 27 degrees, and the bluebells shot into flower, went pale then died off. If you blinked you missed them!


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons in DC
From: Donuel
Date: 12 May 18 - 09:35 PM

Tornados to our south
blizzards to our north
hurricanes from the east
and hail from the west
but the worst storms are in
the political season
from inside the beltway


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 May 18 - 11:19 AM

Although yesterday was a bummer to be out driving and running errands,
the long soaking rain
gave the green growing things cause to rejoice.
So this coming week
a lot of blooming, greening, and growth can be expected.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Donuel
Date: 13 May 18 - 08:36 PM

Being There, Chauncey Gardner would have to agree with you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 May 18 - 02:09 PM

Good Golly Miss Molly is it ever GREEN.

A month ago we had a snowstorm and the trees were bare.


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Subject: RE: BS: The seasons
From: Joe_F
Date: 14 May 18 - 06:22 PM

Vermonters say they have two seasons, winter and the Fourth of July.

In Arizona the tourist bureau says it is "Where Summer Spends the Winter", and natives add "And Hell Spends the Summer".


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