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John MacKenzie 01 Apr 13 - 03:19 PM
Ed T 01 Apr 13 - 03:31 PM
Megan L 01 Apr 13 - 04:04 PM
The Sandman 01 Apr 13 - 04:09 PM
Megan L 01 Apr 13 - 04:11 PM
John MacKenzie 01 Apr 13 - 04:14 PM
John MacKenzie 01 Apr 13 - 04:18 PM
Jeri 01 Apr 13 - 04:21 PM
Kenny B (inactive) 01 Apr 13 - 04:23 PM
Jack the Sailor 01 Apr 13 - 04:26 PM
MGM·Lion 01 Apr 13 - 05:23 PM
The Sandman 01 Apr 13 - 05:27 PM
Megan L 02 Apr 13 - 03:38 AM
Dave the Gnome 02 Apr 13 - 04:41 AM
John MacKenzie 02 Apr 13 - 05:08 AM
The Sandman 02 Apr 13 - 05:12 AM
Megan L 02 Apr 13 - 05:17 AM
GUEST,Peter Laban 02 Apr 13 - 05:21 AM
Dave the Gnome 02 Apr 13 - 06:18 AM
Big Al Whittle 02 Apr 13 - 06:21 AM
John MacKenzie 02 Apr 13 - 06:27 AM
Doug Chadwick 02 Apr 13 - 07:51 AM
Dave the Gnome 02 Apr 13 - 08:22 AM
Mr Happy 02 Apr 13 - 09:53 AM
The Sandman 02 Apr 13 - 10:09 AM
GUEST,Peter Laban 02 Apr 13 - 10:11 AM
The Sandman 02 Apr 13 - 10:23 AM
GUEST,Peter Laban 02 Apr 13 - 10:54 AM
Doug Chadwick 02 Apr 13 - 11:10 AM
The Sandman 02 Apr 13 - 11:14 AM
GUEST,Peter Laban 02 Apr 13 - 11:17 AM
John MacKenzie 02 Apr 13 - 11:44 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Apr 13 - 12:14 PM
Vic Smith 02 Apr 13 - 12:29 PM
John MacKenzie 02 Apr 13 - 01:29 PM
The Sandman 02 Apr 13 - 01:42 PM
Dave the Gnome 02 Apr 13 - 01:45 PM
GUEST,Peter Laban 02 Apr 13 - 02:02 PM
GUEST,Spleen Cringe 02 Apr 13 - 02:09 PM
MartinRyan 02 Apr 13 - 02:16 PM
The Sandman 02 Apr 13 - 02:40 PM
GUEST,Peter Laban 02 Apr 13 - 02:52 PM
Richard Bridge 02 Apr 13 - 02:57 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 02 Apr 13 - 03:03 PM
GUEST,Stim 02 Apr 13 - 04:11 PM
John MacKenzie 02 Apr 13 - 04:15 PM
Dave the Gnome 02 Apr 13 - 04:57 PM
The Sandman 02 Apr 13 - 05:12 PM
GUEST,Ralphie 02 Apr 13 - 05:38 PM
MGM·Lion 02 Apr 13 - 06:03 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 03:19 PM

Oh dear, I thought he'd gone


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Ed T
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 03:31 PM

"Even my PM's are getting funnier."

Some people are just naturally funny.
If you are one of those fortunate folks,
ever considered a stand up comedy career?

:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Megan L
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 04:04 PM

If people are posting a quote I do wish they would say where from so that the veracity of the words posted can be checked.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 04:09 PM

the quote is from the mudcat membership site, flaming[ oo you are a[precious boy] is impolite, likely to cause an argument[ argumentative]. john mackenzie please take note you are breaking the mudcat rules.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Megan L
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 04:11 PM

And you never have?

Be careful how you answer that


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 04:14 PM

Yes Dick, so your bitchy PM's tell me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 04:18 PM

"Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Good Soldier Schweik - PM
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 11:35 AM

As I understand it the purpose of this forum is to discuss music, is posters stuck to that this forum would in my opinion be better, for that reason I have nothing more to say on this thread,good bye.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 04:21 PM

If it makes life easier, consider this the April Fools' thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 04:23 PM

If there are fewer people posting does that mean that the search facility or the power of google etc has improved and people are getting the info that they want and going on their merry way.
I would reckon the value of the site is its library resource.
The search is good and i reckon that someone wanting wants background or words of songs on songs Mudcat along with wikipedia provide great inf sources. If i post or am looking for song words and i get corrections i am quite happy that folks in general try to give informed comment.
Older age group folk music is on the decline due to something called "age"
As for the BS section many of the comments and opinions show the character of the posters and many of the comments i find in most cases are justified.
Having worked in front line mental health for a number of years I was used to being abused and threatened with extreme violence by opiniated people. For that reason I find that the BS section although sometimes tedious is in general informative and entertaining.
I dont think that in all the years (possibly around 15 years) that I have been looking in on Mudcat that the discussion is in any way contributing to a lower number of posts as the quality of the discussions is roughly the same as i was all those years ago reflecting all the colors of the rainbow.
"Just a thought" - - Bluebottle of the Goons (if its not someone will correct me ... hee hee)


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 04:26 PM

Jeri, They all are ;-)

How else do you find 20 posts about soccer on a define "Heaven and Hell" thread?

Maybe there should be a help page called "Starting your own g-danged thread!" or a button next to "Submit Message" saying "Make this post a thread."


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 05:23 PM

You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what*-we-do-not-speak.
.,,.
I hate to appear either naive or ignorant ~~ but what is that, please?

~M~

*...and, in conformity with my status as Official Legendary Pedant, that 'what' would be more seemly rendered as 'which'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Apr 13 - 05:27 PM

John MacKenzie         whos a precious boy         1 Apr 2013 02:31 PM         
                        
Message:
an absolutely puerile comment,and an example of flaming. John MacKenzie         Re: Re: whos a precious boy         1 Apr 2013 03:12 PM         
                        
Message:
another puerile and ignorant remark , i have a sense of humour , it Happens to be different from yours.
john mackenzie these are the personal messages, perfectly accurate you were and still are flaming/trolling.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Megan L
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 03:38 AM

GSS do not ever PM me again if you cannot say something to me in a thread then do not bother saying it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 04:41 AM

I am a bit concerned over this publication of PMs as well. Surely the idea is that they are PERSONAL messages? I have always believed that personal messages should remain so. I will certainly never PM people who then go on to publish the messages!

Maybe another reason that people are posting less? Lack of trust in their fellow posters?

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 05:08 AM

Just Dick living up to his name.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 05:12 AM

Megan you are flaming /trolling,SO HERE IS THE POST THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO INSINUATE HAS SOMETHING FRIGHTENING IN IT. HERE IS THE MESsAGE FOR ALL TO SEE. Megan L         abuse         1 Apr 2013 05:15 PM         
                        
Message:
I do not recall abusing or bullying anybody, in fact i make point of not doing so as a general rule, despite severe provocation. please do not tell me how to answer things as that in itself is attempting to browbeat me."
    if megan and john mackenzie cannot see the provocation /flaming elements in their posts and cannot see why people leave mudcat, goid help us.
this is supposed to be a music discussion site, there are certain mudcat rules, which i displayed, Megan could not even recognise where they were from.
Megan and John should make themselves aware of those rules and always bear them in mind when posting


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Megan L
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 05:17 AM

Nothing I posted insinuated anything I merely stated that I did not wish to EVER receive a PM from you.

As to your tirade and selective memory While my husband was critically ill in a hospital several hundred miles from our home you took exception to something I said and made a point of following me from thread to thread haranguing me. It took three other members telling you in no uncertain terms to back of before you left me alone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 05:21 AM

Dick's post history is there for everybody to check. On several forums.

Enough said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 06:18 AM

Isn't publishing personal messages a form of bullying?

Maybe bullying is in the eye of the beholder!

Anyway - I suspect we will get no further sensible discussion here. Thanks are mainly due to Joe for providing the stats. They are far from conclusive as, as was pointed out, the number of spam messages has declined dramatically. Maybe that accounts for a 20% reduction? I don't know. What I do know is that, in the main, Mudcat is good resource and platform for exchanging ideas. It's a pity when people abuse it, and abuse it they do. Maybe I am just as guilty by pointing out what I feel is crass stupidity but, as I said, that is the way I am. I accept that some people feel the same about my postings and perhaps when I see something that makes my blood boil I should just keep quiet. I probably won't. But neither will I stop contributing and reading valuable posts, throw my toys out of the pram or resort to childish games.

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 06:21 AM

It could be the effect of global warming......

The polar ice caps melt. The Polar Bears heads south. Swimmers off Coney island and Torquay report attacks by polar bears. their food source is being threatened.

In blind panic, people stop posting on Mudcat. The attack of the Polar bears is imminent, and everyone huddles together for safety - or in some cases, because they like huddling together.

I blame the tories.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 06:27 AM

Another insightful, and prescient post from Big Al there.
Thanks Al, I love that post. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 07:51 AM

You don't need to blame the Tories or find any other scapegoat.
GSS has already identified the source of the problem:

It's all my fault!

Dick says so and that's good enough for me.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 08:22 AM

Megan is speechless!

:D


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 09:53 AM

Well Mudcat's been up & down with highs of superb music & other types discussions + lows of bitching squabbling since I joined up circa 2002.

I guess its a sort of sine curve but all in all still the best place for info, mostly intelligent discourse & social networking


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 10:09 AM

Doug, again you have it wrong, I pinpointed three people ian anderson, who accused me of being on hallucinatory drugs, ralph jordan who made personal remarks about my music career, and yourself who suggested I would be playing to smaller audiences because i did not think borfolk was funny.
as for megan, firstly i disagreed with three things she said that is not abuse or bullying, lastly her family background is not something i could possibly have been aware of, and if I had known, I probably would have understood, why she hadpreviously ben unpleasant to me.
peter laban, this discussion is about this forum, this is just another example of you throwing in their tuppence worth, to flame a discussion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 10:11 AM

Well Dick, your posting history on this forum is also available for everybody to see. Nothing to do with flaming. Fact.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 10:23 AM

peter, you are a flamer of the first order, you are still doing it now. my posting history is here the same as yours, you have been stalking me for years, you flamed on concertina net, as member of that forum dirge pointed out , you seem to have taken exception to something i said about kitty hayes concertina playing and you have borne a grudge ever since.
my posting history here, as you say and i take great care not to give personal abuse to anyone.I try to observe the rules of this forum


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 10:54 AM

So far for discussing this forum only.

Let's put the record straight. I started posting here on a obit thread when a friend died.

I stayed on and anybody checking the posting record can see for themselves I had no interactions with you until you unleashed a bullying campaign. I am sorry to say I have at times responded in kind but really, it's energy wasted.

The reason you were ejected and declared unwelcome at concertina.net was in your own posting and some PM you sent me.

You were ejected again when I recognised your posting style in the posts of someone posting as Martin Gibson. Paul Schwartz, the owner of concertina.net, confirmed it was you and banned that username.

That's all there is to it. Anybody can check what's there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 11:10 AM

GSS,
I missed something of my last post. Let me repost the last line with the bit I left off:-

…………………………………
…………………………………
Dick says so and that's good enough for me.   ;-)


DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 11:14 AM

a bullying campaign? complete rubbish.
    i am aware of your derogatory comments on various you tube videos of mine, and your provocations on session org and also your flaming and trolling on concertina net, which all seemed to start after i made some comment about kitty hayes playing, get over it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 11:17 AM

Believe what you will dick. I am sticking with my version and anybody who feels so inclined can check the facts on the forum (and the other forums you now insist on bringing into it).


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 11:44 AM

Well now that it's down to bile, inability to discern the diference between criticism, and bullying, total sense of humour failure. hyper thin skin, and sense of humour failure. Methinks it'd time this thread was put out of it's misery.
Interesting the someone would choose the nom-de-guerre of Martin Gibson though. Makes one wonder if it was a steal, or a continuation?


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 12:14 PM

I'm one of the fedwer people, almost to the point of noit posting at all. I dodn't state that as a point of dissrespect or criticism. Communities change. I know change is a four letter word to folkies, but change happensI check mudcat occasionally. , but usually don't see any threads I feel have anuthing to contribute to. The good news about mudcat is that it is tightly focused. The bad news about mudcat is, it's tightly focused. How much an person gets out of mudcat depends on their range of inerests.

For me Facebook is a much better fit. And nop,m people don't just post abour what they ate this morning. I can be me on Facfebook, which was far more difficult to do on mudcat. The nice thing about facebook is that if people are anti-religion, or hate anything electric, they don't have to read my posts. Friendship is optional. I'm also not much into to political wrangling (which is a major part of mudcat,) so I can just unfriend people who are diatribe-prone in a quiet, respectful way.

These days, I spend my time o9n www.talk music.It just fits me better. They are threads on every kind of music, including folk, and minds are pretty open. Ifr you're not interested in a particular type of music, you don't have to open the threads. That's true here on mudcat, too, but there are enough attack dogs on here thatopen aa thread just to be combative. That never happens on talk/music. Religionor the antagonism toward religion never surfaces on talk/music, while it's always been a raging part of mudcat. I don't preach what I believe, but I don't need to avoid posting any reference to my faith out of concern that I will be attacked by all the people who say there should be no preaching on this site, yet preach the superiority of atheism until the cows come home, are mild and asafely installed in their stalls for the night.

I still think mudcat is a good site, and deoes wqhat it set out to do very well. I havce many mudcat friends who are also facebook friends, so I don't feel completely disconnect. I still value the friendships I made here, and will pop in from time to time.

If you aren't anti-facbeook, "friend" me, so we can keep in touch, or drop by talk-music sometime, if you have a broader insterest in music.

All the best

http://talk-music.proboards.com/


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Vic Smith
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 12:29 PM

Dick Miles wrote:-
"I pinpointed three people ian anderson, who accused me of being on hallucinatory drugs,"


Dear me. Are we back to that one again after all these years? Without wishing to get into an unwelcome disagreement, could I point out that some time after the remark, when you raised it on this forum, I was able prove to you that it was largely your problems with spelling and punctuation (at that time) that caused Ian to make the comment which I seem to remember was something like "What are you on?, At the time this was a common if scathing and very unkind remark; I remember thinking at the time did not put Ian in a very good light.
I also seem to remember that you ended up apologising to Ian on this forum.
Was this not the case?


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 01:29 PM

Jerry, Mudcat's problem is the determined warts and all approach, at any cost. Other sites probably delete many of the combative posts before many folks see them. If that happened in a controlled manner on here, there would be less nasty posts for people to react to.
I too like the 'Chose your friends' approach on FB. I might add that several of my FB friends, are also Mudcatters ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 01:42 PM

I apologised to Ian, because I had been mistaken in thinking it was a folk roots review,the review was written by one jams o donnell who gave the impression it was a review in folk roots.
I certainly did not apologise for IAN ANDERSON suggesting I was on hallucinatory drugs, in fact I reckon he owes me an apology. that particular problem was caused by a reviewer pretending it was a folk roots review.
   peter laban, you have continued to stir the pot? flame/ troll,you have made at least one derogatory remark on a you tube video of minein that you were not alone, along with another member of www.session .org, a certain Zina lee,
you by your own ad mission went sneaking off to paul schwarz on concertina net, this might suggest someone with a grudge, does it not? you by your own admission have been wasting energy on hounding me on the internet,please desist.
john mackenzie, again is stirring the pot,flaming trolling, I have no connection with MARTIN GIBSON, who was on this site before my time.
   the fact of the matter is this, many internet forums are run like private fiefdoms, I will give you an example, I have had many musical disagreements with Michael Gill, on www.session .org, but i do not bear him any malice, I wonder why he has been suspended for 11 months, when he has done nothing[ on the last occasion, apart from apparantly say sheesh] to warrant it.
concertina net is another private fiefdom pretending to be democratic, your sneaking off to paul schwarz,   only shows that you bore me malice and had an agenda against me, and bears out that it is you that has a grudge against me, you should be ashamed of yourself, you have the mentality of a police informer.
you come here with the particular purpose of libelling me, please give proof of this personal message, I am very careful what i say in personal messages, and have never sent you a bullying or abusive message, unless you can prove otherwise you should go away with this malicious gossip


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 01:45 PM

Anyone ever wish they had not asked a question..?

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 02:02 PM

Dick you're losing it.

I left you any comments on youtube. If you think otherwise, prove it and post a link.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 02:09 PM

I just wasted 15 minutes of my life reading this thread. It served to remind me why I spend so little of my time on Mudcat these days. Shame, really.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: MartinRyan
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 02:16 PM

I continue to meet people at festivals and other musical occasions who comment: "Mudcat? No, don't go there much now - too unpleasant.". Interestingly, I've met several Americans who blame it on "those bloody Brits" and several Brits who blame it all on "those bloody Americans"!

Regards


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 02:40 PM

I will find it in due course,mean while you produce this so called bullying personal message, and explain why you maliciously went to paul schwarz as an informer, why else other than you had and have had a personal grudge for along time., and then your continuing attempts to insinuate that I was Martin Gibson who used to post here, it says one thing you have a malicious hidden agenda against me, which is your only point in posting on this thread.
internet forums run by power freaks such as www.session .org and concertina net, and who rely upon sneaky informers to continue a pretence of democracy are in my opinion worth avoiding , i find i visit both the sites less and less, there is much misinformmed claptrap[ about concertinas] and only the occasional useful information


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 02:52 PM

Anyone who wishes can check the fact Dick. Let's leave it at that. Contact Paul Schwartz and ask him who was hiding behind the Martin Gibson identity and why it was deleted from concertina.net.

I have no wish to have any interaction with you whatsoever but your constant twisting of things is not something that is to be left unchallenged.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 02:57 PM

Too much wilful ignorance (or pretend illiteracy) and racism (not just against the English) and irrationality and defence of the foregoing (which I suppose is as good an explanation of conservatives or republicans as any).   And the ubiquity of the pink and fluffy brigade, and idiots who want to be John Wayne. But there again if you go onto any of the wide-open sections of facebook look at the shit that crawls out from under stones there.

The inability to discuss certain areas of "political thought" is also a handicap. MtheGM, you DO indeed know what that is as I have messaged you about some of it and teh misuse of your name or image on other sites, so your pretence that you do not know is another aspect of trolling.

Also the serious scholars of folk music seem to have died or gone so as a folk music resource the value of this place reduces.

But it is still a good place to exchange information about folk (and not-quite-folk) events.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 03:03 PM

I think this thread is the best evidence anyone could present on why people don't come here as much any more. Yuck! I haven't seen this kind of beavior since I left my playground days behind. I'll check in again in aother six months... God bless!


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 04:11 PM

Athough a few of you would like to think that the decline in Mudcat posting has to do with your determined and unrelenting petulance, the change is more likely connected to the fact is that there is a lot out there that didn't used to be, and not as much here as there used to be.

One can, for instance, now go to YouTube and hear and see nearly all of the artists that one can only discuss here. And there are discussion threads attached. Even better is Spotify--I spent most of last evening listening to the Almanac Singers, and last week, spent nearly 6 continuous hours listening to Dave Swarbrick.

One cannot come to Mudcat and listen to artists, and if one wants to hear what a tune sounds like, it is catch-as-catch-can--abc files, though useful, are far from the state of the art, and Mudcat Midis were never comparable to those at The Contemplator. If one wants to hear a folk tune, there are collections sound files and midis of the different genres all over the internet.

People used to come to Mudcat to request chords for tunes, but there was never any effort to standardize the way that they were posted, let alone collate them or make them easier to use, and, as a consequence, chords are much better elsewhere--

If you want to complain about Dick Miles, Guest from Sanity, Spleen Cringe, this is the place, but if you want to hear them, or any of the dozens to hundreds of Mudcatters who are also performers, good luck, because there are none of the clickable sidebars that have gotten to be the norm on other sites.

And even the ads, which support the site, are mostly inappropriate-where are the Martin Guitar ads, the ads for capos and strings, the ads for portable sound systems, the ads for folk and traditional recordings?

And finally, where is an online platform for folk/traditional and ethnic music? Instead of supporting the creation of one, the good folks at Mudcat(you know who you are) decried MP3 files, P-to-P, Napster, Limewire, and such things as "stealing", and browbeat anyone who mentioned them. Now take a look around...

I am not criticizing Max, Joe, or any of the others for any of this. They have had a lot on their plates over the years, and have handled it very well. New ventures require new people, new money, and new commitments, and the "Mudcat community", hasn't stepped up to the plate. Yeah, you throw a few bucks in when somebody begs for it, but just a few...and you fight change tooth and nail...and so it goes...


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 04:15 PM

Pretty accurate summary there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 04:57 PM

Very good points indeed, Stim. Strange thing is though that if the other sites are taking 'custom' away from here it is quite a slow migration. 20% fewer postings than last year and a lot of that could be down to better spam filters. I would expect the lure of YouTube et al to have created a larger loss of posts. Maybe there is a big loss here but a some gains from another source? I suppose we can only guess. But at least that is better than all the other stuff going on in this thread!

Will you lot stop it please. You know who you are!


Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 05:12 PM

I have no wish to have interaction with a sneaky malicious troll who clearly has an axe to grind, who comes on to this thread with the sole intention of discrediting me.
I came on to this thread to give my opinion that i thought lizzie cornish had been bullied,
the people that did this were john mackenzie, ralph jordan, ruth archer,folkie dave, to name a few, it should have been stopped long before it was.
i too have received personal abuse, there was some anonymous person who claimed i had run a concertina workshop at lewes and that i was incompetent, the organiser of the lewes workshops pointed out that i had in fact never done a workshop for them, what sort of people do this stuff, malicious, nasty, sneaky cowards, the same sort of people who go informing and sneaking to the owners of concertina net, people with malicious hidden agendas.
then we have the curious banning from this site of roger galt[shambles]
ok, moderators are all volunteers trying to do their best, but on both occasions they have either acted too late or unfairly.
my suggestion is that the bs site is closed


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 05:38 PM

Dick. Thanks for the insulting remarks. You're quite right. I didn't find yout last recording very exciting (Mind you Napalm Deaths last waxing left a lot to be deired too!) You probably think my last CD was crap as well. Your prerogative. I don't mean to lose any sleep over your thoughts on the matter. So, carry on with the insults if you wish. I really don't mind one way or t'other,


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Subject: RE: BS: Are fewer people posting?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Apr 13 - 06:03 PM

Richard: Your last post is, in part, addressed to me; it seems to be in reply to something I have posted on this thread, on which I have in fact posted nothing but an enquiry about the ex-member Elsie who had been ref'd to; and refers to some points you seem to think I have made which I have no recollection of, & some messages [PMs?] which I have received from you of which I have likewise no recollection.

Here is what you actually posted above ~~

"The inability to discuss certain areas of "political thought" is also a handicap. MtheGM, you DO indeed know what that is as I have messaged you about some of it and teh misuse of your name or image on other sites, so your pretence that you do not know is another aspect of trolling."

It would be an understatement to assert that I have not the vaguest notion as to what you are on about in this post, or how it relates to anything on this thread, to which, I repeat, I have barely contributed, & have certainly made no comment as to the expressability of any view, political or otherwise; or what 'trolling' [a serious accusation in the context of this forum] I am supposed to have been indulging in.

If, as appears possible, you are raking up some old exchanges of which I have no immediate recall, some ref would be helpful in understanding what is going on in your mind.

As it would seem here that I am being attacked for reasons which I find entirely incomprehensible, would it be too much to request some clarification, please?

Thanks in anticipation ~

~M~


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