BS: Is Obama a Fascist?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 01:10 PM

Firth: "Gee, folks, I really got up his nose, didn't I?"

Just more of your stink...that you mentioned earlier!
You're still squirming to get out of your lying bullshit!

GfS

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We're done here. --mudelf

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 12:44 PM

Gee, folks, I really got up his nose, didn't I?

One sentence or a word or two and I can keep him spinning for hours.

Don Firth (with better things to do than watch Goofball pee himself.)

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 12:24 PM

You're such a bullshitter, I can't believe it!
To bad so many of the simple minded do!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 12:20 PM

Firth: "I didn't listen to the song."

Then how did you know it was a song?...and then proceed to quote the line form the fourth verse, second line....'Just sees what he wants to see'???? You are both slipping AND LOSING IT!

Don Firth
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 08:12 PM
"And Goofball, I have posted innumerable facts, But you don't do facts. "You see only what you want to see.""

Here, I'll refresh your memory....

'Nowhere Man'

He's a real Nowhere Man
Sitting in his Nowhere Land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody

Doesn't have a point of view
Knows not where he's going to
Isn't he a bit like you and me?

Nowhere Man, please listen
You don't know what you're missing
Nowhere Man, the world is at your command

He's as blind as he can be
Just sees what he wants to see
Nowhere Man, can you see me at all?

Nowhere Man, don't worry
Take your time, don't hurry
Leave it all 'til somebody else lends you a hand

Doesn't have a point of view
Knows not where he's going to
Isn't he a bit like you and me?

Nowhere Man, please listen
You don't know what you're missing
Nowhere Man, the world is at your command

He's a real Nowhere Man
Sitting in his Nowhere Land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
LENNON, JOHN / MCCARTNEY, PAUL


....and now for your listening pleasure, Again...'Nowhere Man', The Beatles

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 12:11 AM

Another example of Don staying on topic.
Hey, do you want me to fart into some more bottles, again and send them to you?...Last time I did, you couldn't even wait till Christmas, like you were supposed to!

Back to topic?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 09:41 PM

I didn't listen to the song. Just you, passing gas again.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 08:57 PM

Firth: "And Goofball, I have posted innumerable facts, But you don't do facts. You see only what you want to see. Which isn't much."

..and, now you're copying lines from the song...(how'd you like it?..fits ya' as snug as can be, huh?)
...as far as posting some facts related to, the thread topic, and on this thread...bring one back up..I seem to recall only name calling and pontifically spun opinions!.....and note even an 'original thought'!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 08:12 PM

And Goofball, I have posted innumerable facts, But you don't do facts. You see only what you want to see. Which isn't much.

And I don't have to "obsess" about getting a following. I have a following and have had for years.

As to my accomplishments, would you like me to post my resumé? It runs several pages ….

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 07:59 PM

Sawzaw, you have your mule hitched up butt forward. Fascists, characteristically are the racist bigots.

See Hitler's Germany in the 1930s and 1940s.

So many really stupid things would NOT get said if people would just learn a little history.

Don Fith

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 12:00 PM

Hey Don ?..Do you have a fact to post?...or just more of your baseless, desperate blathering? Come on, you can do better than to demonstrate your small minded obsession with trying to get a 'following'(?). Name some accomplishments, not accompanied with spin....just something simple(beyond simple name calling and denigrating attempts to call attention away from the fact that you DON'T have diddly squat!
Go ahead, give it your best shot!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 10:37 AM

If all else fails, just call anyone that does not agree with you a "racist bigot" That is what fascists do. Why bother with facts?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 09:09 AM

Yup.
Anonymous guests ain't the problem
Folks with handles... Multiple handles... is what mucks this place up

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 01:09 AM

Yep. He's losing it. . . .

But then he wasn't very tightly wrapped to begin with. . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Feb 14 - 12:35 AM

Such compelling arguments! Pretty 'depthy' for the cheery Mudcat dysfunctional 'activists'...and guess what??...on this thread, I never called Obama a Fascist!
So what is it that makes you such devotees??...His honesty??..His effectiveness?....Obamacare for the insurance companies?..His crony payoff, to his 'supporting corporations'?..His Color?..He's supposedly a Democrat??...His golf scores?..His haircut??...His shovel ready jobs??...His speeches??...What is it??..His NDAA?....How he chased the Russians out of Syria, and Syria was so intimidated, they threw away all their chemical weapons??...How he had a guy thrown in jail,blaming his video for Benghazi???....ummm, is it how you like to spend trillions of borrowed money??....and I could go on....but maybe you guys can come up with something...Convince me.
The only things you held up, for which I suppose you are proud of, for some banal reason, is your childish whining and accusatory name calling!
...and 'Handy Jack' gives it all a pass....and SRS must be impressed at all your 'insights'.......and with all that said, none of you appear capable of an adult conversation with facts to support your 'point of view'.
Interesting!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 10:22 PM

. . . snicker snicker. . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 09:14 PM

:)

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 08:38 PM

"Well, some things don't change...like the truth....it always wins out, in the end. 'Some' people sure spin themselves 'dizzy' tryin' to spin it though. But in the end, they are just talkin' out their end."

How true! Have you checked your arse recently, for teeth and a tongue?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 08:31 PM

"Obama's cutting of the Supplemental Nutrition program for children and reduction of food stamps will lead to the deaths of Americans. His ethanol initiatives early in his first term have resulted in the deaths of no telling how many millions worldwide, people who depended on America's grain surplus for sustenance. His Obamacare is now shutting down American hospitals, depriving sick people of life-saving health care. He aided British Petroleum in poisoning the Gulf of Mexico--he capped their losses at 20 billion, so they really had no need to clean up after themselves. The Gulf is now polluted beyond reclaiming, its people sick and dying. He is pouring money into gun running to Mexico, drone bombing babies in the Middle East, and so on. Pick your genocide."

You are arguably the most deluded paranoid schizophrenic who ever posted on this or any other forum.

Really! Seek help before the voices tell you to kill yourself or somebody else.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 08:22 PM

"When time plays out its course, truth is going to win out EVERY time."

That'll scupper you then, won't it Goofus!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 12:39 PM

I agree.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 10:57 AM

Well, some things don't change...like the truth....it always wins out, in the end. 'Some' people sure spin themselves 'dizzy' tryin' to spin it though. But in the end, they are just talkin' out their end. Maybe they should just end it.....open their mind for another point of view that doesn't require so much spinning, and accusing people of hating and denigrating anyone who doesn't agree with their dizziness.
Maybe they should just 'end it'!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 03:43 AM

Oh, I'm SO flattered. (Keep in mind that the main reason I don't natter at you as much as some do, is that I know it would change nuffin.)

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 01:53 AM

Hey Ebbie, Talk to Don....perhaps some of your intelligence will rub off onto him. YOU, at least, are keeping your political views tempered with focus on the topic., and not so banal. Whether we agree or not, your perspective has more to consider in substance, than his....ummm... behavior(?).

I'm Rooting for ya'!
(See, I haven't forgotten)

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Amos
Date: 22 Feb 14 - 12:37 AM

Except that he has not enforced birth control on anyone--he has simply pushed for legislation that ensures it is included in insurance. That's a whole world of difference, isn't it?

Trying to twist that into enforced birth control is very similar, IMHO, to accusing Mother Teresa of "enforcing" tolerance of criminal conduct. It requires a really dedicated twisting of facts to make your point. The kind of ferocious alteration that only someone like Songwronger could come up with.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 09:48 PM

Well, Goofus, then why do you have Shinola all over your tongue?

That IS Shinola, isn't it?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 05:35 PM

Firth: "Can you say, "racist bigot?"

Can you not?

I guess you're back to that bullshit again. You really need to get a new 'playbook' of Democrat Party talking points and tactics...nobody is paying attention to THAT one anymore. Perhaps you should invest in a Hula-Hoop. Maybe it will come back in fashion!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 04:48 PM

What?????!!!!!!!!!???

Who's lickin' boots here, Bucko??

What I posted was not anymore acceptable when the Reagan administration did it, or Johnson, or Nixon, Carter, or Ford or Clinton...or Bush!!

It's called CORRUPTION, as if you could distinguish that from 'politics as usual'! You really should stop being such a hardcore Democrat operative, hiding under the guise of an 'independent'...maybe that way you could resort to posting some verifiable facts, instead of your incessant denigrating those who do!
It's getting old...and isn't working. If anything, it's making you look like more of a lunatic than you'd really like to be portrayed as!...or deluded that you're not!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 04:29 PM

Get real, Sawzaw! You know exactly what I mean and you make yourself look foolish with your obvious deliberate misinterpretation.

No matter what President Obama tries to do, Songwronger--and apparently YOU--(and of course the resident boot-licker, GfS) would manage to twist it into some kind of evil.

Can you say, "racist bigot?"

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 04:18 PM

"Once again, if President Obama could heal the sick"

A logical Fallacy. You have no idea what Songwronger would say or squawk if President Obama could heal the sick. Unless you are making a prediction about something that will not likely happen. A very safe and self serving smug prediction that is proof of nothing except your use of rhetoric to replace facts.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Feb 14 - 03:43 PM

Firth: "Once again, if President Obama could heal the sick, Songwronger would squawk that he's trying to destroy the medical profession.
If President Obama could raise the dead, Songwronger would accuse him of putting morticians out of business.
And if President Obama could walk on water, Songwronger would complain that he is polluting the world's oceans with his dirty shoes."

...after all, he IS the 'Commander in Chief'!...isn't he?... and he IS concerned about 'healthcare', isn't he??
Well, at least you left out changing water into wine...he doesn't need to!

What's in your wallet??

GfS

P.S. Ebbie: "Incidentally, "medias" and "pre-planned" ?"

"medias",,,as in printed, T.V., internet, radio....but maybe I should have used 'forms of media'...."pre-planned"... ummm... 'premeditated'?
(I didn't want to insult those who 'meditate')

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 Feb 14 - 10:50 PM

"We just have to be repetitive about this. It's not enough to have a catchy ad on a Monday and then only do it every Monday. We have to do this every day of the week and just really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way."

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Songwronger
Date: 20 Feb 14 - 10:35 PM

I give the definition of genocide, plus a concrete example of it, and you people call me names. And Firth pictures Obama walking on water and healing the sick. He's transferred his religious ideation to Obama. Obama's a fucking genocidal monster, and Firth views him as Christ-like. Amazing.

You Obama defenders are victims of severe brainwashing. You have gone beyond the point of being unable to see the obvious; you are now ascribing supernatural attributes to a huckster politician.

Snap out of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Feb 14 - 02:15 PM

Once again, if President Obama could heal the sick, Songwronger would squawk that he's trying to destroy the medical profession.

If President Obama could raise the dead, Songwronger would accuse him of putting morticians out of business.

And if President Obama could walk on water, Songwronger would complain that he is polluting the world's oceans with his dirty shoes.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Feb 14 - 09:05 AM

"what group, tribe, race or nationality has the GOP erased? "

Moderate Republicans. :-D

Crist in Florida was the last one.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Feb 14 - 01:59 AM

"Obamacare forces birth control on us:"? My god. Here I thought it was my age.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Feb 14 - 12:49 AM

he forces birth control on you.......

pity he didn't force it on your Mum

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 11:15 PM

What harm is there in a straw man thread creator weaving straw man threads.
Perhaps a new, straw silly or even bizarre POV changes could help someone better organize their thoughts and opinions.



naaaaaw



Songwronger, try a fresh approach, not just fresh straw.

Sheep may eat hay when grass goes away but I pray it will return by spring.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Songwronger
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 10:15 PM

And his birth control initiatives are genocide. Technically, enforcing birth control on a people is genocide. And Obamacare forces birth control on us:

The international legal definition of the crime of genocide is found in Articles II and III of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide....

Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Article III: The following acts shall be punishable:
(a) Genocide;
(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
(d) Attempt to commit genocide;
(e) Complicity in genocide.

http://www.preventgenocide.org/genocide/officialtext-printerfriendly.htm

So, if you support Obamacare (with it's abortions and birth control), then you are a genocidalist, just like Obama. Article III says the acts are punishable, too, so all of you who have supported Obamacare are now complicit in genocide. You will be punished, according to international law.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Songwronger
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 10:06 PM

Obama's cutting of the Supplemental Nutrition program for children and reduction of food stamps will lead to the deaths of Americans. His ethanol initiatives early in his first term have resulted in the deaths of no telling how many millions worldwide, people who depended on America's grain surplus for sustenance. His Obamacare is now shutting down American hospitals, depriving sick people of life-saving health care. He aided British Petroleum in poisoning the Gulf of Mexico--he capped their losses at 20 billion, so they really had no need to clean up after themselves. The Gulf is now polluted beyond reclaiming, its people sick and dying. He is pouring money into gun running to Mexico, drone bombing babies in the Middle East, and so on. Pick your genocide.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 09:32 PM

but would you want him to move in next door.....?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 09:02 PM

Hmmmm I obiously missed something - what group, tribe, race, nationality has President Obama erased? For that matter, what group, tribe, race or nationality has the GOP erased?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Songwronger
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 08:05 PM

Obama's not black, he's mixed race. His father was either Barack Obama Sr or Frank Davis, both of whom were black. His mother was Caucasian.

But you have to judge Obama on his actions, not the color of his skin. And he's doing business with fascists. He's carrying out a watered down version of the opposition party's genocidal austerity agenda, but still, a little bit of genocide is genocide nevertheless. Obama commits fascist genocide, hence, he is a fascist.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 06:43 PM

BTW, 'oppErtune' bothers me. I know better.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 05:26 PM

but the proposition isn't does the office of president have fascist overtones?

the proposition is :-

is Obama a fascist?

which in the context of him being the first black president strikes me as abuse?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 04:46 PM

"I don't remember EVER hearing President Nixon described as a statesman, true or not. "

I kind of do, but only in conjunction with Kissinger. The media in Canada loved the outreach to China.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 04:14 PM

You have a good grasp of the nature of government, Ebbie.

'Twas ever thus.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 04:01 PM

A good deal of what you say there, GfS, (19 February, 4:19 am) no doubt is true, and sometimes for the reasons you state. My take on it is a lot simpler: I can easily believe - and accept - that Machiavellian means are planned and implemented, and that the populace is frequently kept in the dark about them. That is not surprising. Government is a messy business. However, I firmly believe that there are more people who wish to do good - and want to go down in history with that reputation - than there are people who are single-mindedly bent on risking the destruction of not only their own little piece of the world but the entire shebang.

I contend that few people in a government, probably any government, believe that their leaders are willing to plot long term goals that are just plain evil, but I have little doubt that the people who attend the Bilderberg groups, say, come away having become convinced of the global need for financial manipulation and even the need for 'handling' problems of rogue nations. That outcome makes sense to me.

I believe that few people are willing to put their own lives and their family's lives at risk, not to mention, this world's future at risk, in the name of profit and power. In other contexts I have read the implication that literal generations have plotted for such payback.

I think that the same people who believe that there are hosts of shadowy figures guiding the world's progress are the people who prefer to believe, and spout, conspiracies ranging from assassinations to complicit terrorism and back again. It is easy to sit back and point to various situations as proof that they demonstrate such manipulation while ignoring the many issues and events that just don't fit the scenario .

A couple of observations:

I don't remember EVER hearing President Nixon described as a statesman, true or not. The label was tentatively proffered AFTER his presidency during his rehabilitave years.

"Positions change after election"? Of course. As President Kennedy said after election, his biggest surprise was discovering how little real power presidents have.

I believe that candidates and nominees have all kinds of plans, ideas and perceptions only to discover after election that they didn't have enough information previously, including the discovery that there are competing priorities, that needs, and therefore, efforts have to be balanced, have to be initiated and presented at oppertune times.

Incidentally, "medias" and "pre-planned" ?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 04:00 PM

I think this thread has passed it's "sell by" date

It's beginning to smell a bit. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 03:52 PM

Read this CAREFULLY...see if it rings a bell!! (even the posted comments!

AND........This!!!( and to think, I posted this over two years ago!)

Europe Stunned After Being Told "Obama Is Not In Charge"

EU Times

Sun, Sept 18, 2011

Subject: Obama is Not In Charge

Tim Geithner Says He's In Charge

"A new report prepared by Russian Deputy Finance Minister Tatyana Nesterenko about the Eurogroup meeting of the Informal Economic and Financial Affairs Council (ECOFIN) in Wroclaw Poland on the growing European debt crisis states that EU Finance Ministers were "left stunned" Friday after they were told by US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner [photo top right] that President Obama was "not in charge."

According to this report, the "uninvited" US Treasury Secretary showed up at the ECOFIN conference and engaged in what can only be described as a "temper tantrum" where he slammed Europe's economic policy makers for their intransigence in provided further bailouts to Greece and when queried by European Central Bank (ECB) Chief Jean-Claude Trichet as to if this was "Obama's position too" was told by Geithner, "He's (Obama) not in charge, I am."

ECB Chief Trichet, according to other news reports, rebuked Geithner and stated that the financial position of the 17-member Eurozone is better than that of other major economies, especially the United States.

This shocking revelation as to who is actually running the United States comes on the heals of further allegations that Geithner deliberately ignored Obama's orders to prepare a plan to "wind down" the mammoth international banking group Citigroup Inc. in order to help save the American economy, and as we can, in part, read as reported by the San Francisco Chronicle:

"U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner ignored an order in 2009 from President Barack Obama to prepare a plan to "wind down" Citigroup Inc., once the biggest bank in the world, according to a book to be released next week.

Geithner didn't proceed with Obama's order to develop a plan to dissolve New York-based Citigroup in March 2009, several months after the bank had received a $45 billion taxpayer bailout, according to "Confidence Men: Wall Street, Washington and the Education of a President" by Ron Suskind, a former Wall Street Journal reporter."

Even more stunning, this report continues, are revelations being brought to light by the New York Times Magazine that Geithner, along with the director of the White House National Economic Council Larry Summers, formed an "unholy troika" with the banking behemoth Goldman Sachs to literally steal the entire US economic system away from Obama and the American people for the sole purpose of looting it for the benefit of a few elite bankers, politicians and other such parasites.

The power vacuum created in the White House allowing these banksters to take over was exacerbated by Summers who upon joining the Obama team declared "there's no adult in charge" thus allowing him and Geithner to be "insubordinate" to Obama and hijack the American economy for themselves and their cronies.

agt2 ObamaScare Tim Geithner Says Hes In Charge

To the damage wrought upon the American economy by Geithner and his "allies" is called nothing short of "catastrophic" as tens of millions have been thrown out of their homes, tens of millions more are jobless, and the poverty level has reached heights not seen since the days of Great Depression during the 1930's.

To any relief being seen coming for the American people before their nation is totally destroyed by these monsters it appears unlikely as the veil of oppression keeping them check shows no signs of loosening.

Even worse, new and shocking reports coming from the United States are warning that under what is called their new "Obamacare" laws, patients in US hospitals are being declared "incompetent" in mass numbers thus allowing these same hospitals to claim "guardianship" over these people and then sell of all of their assets thus reducing them to poverty.

Sadly to note are that laws such as these allowing a government to begin mass confiscation of their citizens private wealth, like those enacted by the former German Nazi Empire and Soviet Russian regimes, always presaged mass civil unrest, revolution and outright war.

In fact, just this past week, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg warned Washington that if things aren't changed, and soon, riots could very well begin breaking out. And as quoted by the New York Daily News, Bloomberg said, "We have a lot of kids graduating college, can't find jobs. That's what happened in Cairo. That's what happened in Madrid. You don't want those kinds of riots here."

Bloomberg's predictive warning of unrest appears to be spot on as, even while these words are being written, US police forces have "locked down" the financial capitol of America on Wall Street after thousands of protesters descended upon it in a "Day of Rage" demonstration invoking Mideast rallies and calling for an end to corporate greed that favors the rich over the poor.

To how soon these types of protests riots, if not outright revolution, will spread across America it is not in our knowing, other than to note that never in the history of the world have people that have been so destroyed by their "leaders" not fought back."


So what is He(Obama)?...Does it matter????????????

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Feb 14 - 02:38 PM

But more importantly:

Is Ofaschia a Bamist?