BS: Domestic Rates Were Never Abolished in Ireland

Subject: BS: DOMESTIC RATE WERE NEVER ABOLISHED IN IR
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 05:54 PM

There seems to be a myth that Haughey abolished domestic rates in Ireland,.He increased the rate of vat by 2 per cent while going through a charade of abolishing domestic rates, so there was no loss of revenue to the government at that time.

Subject: RE: BS: DOMESTIC RATE WERE NEVER ABOLISHED IN IR
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Apr 13 - 05:58 PM

Good to know. Is "IR" Ireland, Iraq or Iran?

Subject: RE: BS: Domestic Rates Were Never Abolished in Ireland
From: Ron Davies
Date: 10 Apr 13 - 06:58 AM

C'mon, Jack. Just read the first post.



I'd like to know what the VAT currently is in Ireland.

Subject: RE: BS: Domestic Rates Were Never Abolished in Ireland
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Apr 13 - 07:17 AM

What are you buying? Ron. Here is a table you can look it up. http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/rates/index.jsp

Sorry if I offended GSS just making a little joke about your title. Looks good now.

Subject: RE: BS: Domestic Rates Were Never Abolished in Ireland
From: gnomad
Date: 10 Apr 13 - 05:17 PM

Following that link by JtS it seems that the Republic currently has some 4 different rates of VAT from 4.8% up to 23%.

I remember we in the UK were told on the introduction of VAT that such measures were possible, but I don't think we ever implemented them, so we just have the one rate.

Does that system work well for you guys? I can see that it might offer choices to the taxation authorities, but does it cause problems too?

Subject: RE: BS: Domestic Rates Were Never Abolished in Ireland
From: GUEST,Voluntary Exile
Date: 11 Apr 13 - 02:41 PM

In Ireland, the Government would bleed ye white.

Subject: RE: BS: Domestic Rates Were Never Abolished in Ireland
From: GUEST,Backwoods man
Date: 11 Apr 13 - 03:52 PM

"I remember we in the UK were told on the introduction of VAT that such measures were possible, but I don't think we ever implemented them, so we just have the one rate."

Errrrmmm, on a point of order M'Lud, we have three - Standard Rate (20%), Reduced Rate (5%), and Zero Rate (0%).

Subject: RE: BS: Domestic Rates Were Never Abolished in Ireland
From: gnomad
Date: 11 Apr 13 - 04:46 PM

Yeah, I was discounting the zero rate but I confess to being unaware of any reduced rate...what is that one for? (I know I should look it up, but one so seldom gets the chance to simply ask someone that I can't resist).

Subject: RE: BS: Domestic Rates Were Never Abolished in Ireland
From: Howard Jones
Date: 12 Apr 13 - 04:33 AM

Most changes in taxation anywhere are designed simply to shift the burden (and gain political advantage) rather than reduce overall tax revenue. Domestic rates were abolished, and I'm surprised that GSS is surprised that the government sought to recoup this from other taxes.

I believe Ireland is about to introduce a local property tax, which at a quick glance seems to be on a similar basis to the community charge in the UK. I wonder whether they will make any corresponding reductions to the tax burden elsewhere - I suspect not, which is probably more of a reason to complain.

Subject: RE: BS: Domestic Rates Were Never Abolished in Ireland
From: GUEST,Backwoodsman
Date: 12 Apr 13 - 08:23 AM

"Yeah, I was discounting the zero rate but I confess to being unaware of any reduced rate...what is that one for? (I know I should look it up, but one so seldom gets the chance to simply ask someone that I can't resist)."

Fuel - gas, electricity etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Domestic Rates Were Never Abolished in Ireland
From: The Sandman
Date: 12 Apr 13 - 09:37 AM

howard i presume you get some services for paying council tax, i do not have a refuse collecton, i do not have street lighting, i pay motor tax which is supposed to pay for the upkeep of the road, the introduction of the property tax is to pay off the gigantic debt incurred by the anglo irish bank , for which i am no way responsible.

Subject: RE: BS: Domestic Rates Were Never Abolished in Ireland
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Apr 13 - 02:36 PM

yo