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Lyr Req: Mr Radalum? / Raddle-um / Crabfish etc.

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OLD SHE-CRAB
THE CRAYFISH


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Crabfish


Llewellyn 05 Nov 99 - 09:09 PM
Joe Offer 05 Nov 99 - 09:29 PM
Liam's Brother 05 Nov 99 - 10:38 PM
Joe Offer 06 Nov 99 - 04:20 AM
Llewellyn 06 Nov 99 - 08:11 PM
Joe Offer 07 Nov 99 - 03:11 AM
pavane 27 Jun 02 - 11:49 AM
Mr Happy 28 Jun 02 - 02:48 AM
Steve Parkes 28 Jun 02 - 05:51 AM
masato sakurai 28 Jun 02 - 02:02 PM
pavane 29 Jun 02 - 04:47 AM
GUEST,Ken Duffy 13 Jan 12 - 11:15 AM
Jim Carroll 13 Jan 12 - 12:55 PM
Lighter 13 Jan 12 - 02:10 PM
GUEST,Liam ( Australian version) 10 Jul 13 - 09:09 AM
Jim Carroll 10 Jul 13 - 11:37 AM
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Subject: Mr Radalum ?
From: Llewellyn
Date: 05 Nov 99 - 09:09 PM

Heard this great funny song a while ago about a Mr Radalum ?? who went fishing and caught a crab fish but I can't remember all the lyrics. Can anyone help?


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Subject: RE: Mr Radalum ?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Nov 99 - 09:29 PM

Hi, Llewelyn - Dan Milner (Liam's Brother) sings it. I'll send him a link to this space, and I'm sure he'll post the lyrics if nobody beats him to it. Could it be in the database? You'll never find it with the title, which could be spelled any number of ways, but maybe you can remember enough words to bring it up. I tried, and had no luck. The All-Knowing Dan will soon rescue us, I'm sure. Say, Dan, can you tell us a little of the history of the song, too?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE CRABFISH
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 05 Nov 99 - 10:38 PM

The song is The Crabfish and I learned most of the words from Donal Maguire. Donal is from Drogheda, Co. Louth. He went with his parents to live in Manchester when he was 16. He is a regular on the British folk circuit, a terrific singer, a former student of the late Ewan MacColl. One extra verse came from Mick Moloney. The timing of the request is uncanny because I would ordinarily only see either of them once every few years but I'll be staying with both of them in the next 10 days.

This song is very widespread in one version or another... some pretty vulgar.

Here are the words. Words and music are in my collection: A Bonnie Bunch of Roses, Oak Publications, 1983. Folk-Legacy has it in case anyone's interested. You can find it through our website

THE CRABFISH

Oh, there was a little man and he had a little horse
And he saddled it, bridled it and threw his leg across.
Mister raddle-um, faddle-um
Oh, Mister raddle-um, faddle-um a-day.

He rode, he rode till he came to brook
And there he saw a fisherman, a-fishing with his hook.

"Fisherman, oh fisherman, oh fisherman," says he,
"Have you got a lobster that you can sell to me?"

"No sir, no sir, no sir," says he,
"But I've got a crabfish that I will sell to thee."

Well he grabbed the crabfish by the backbone,
Put it o'er his shoulder and galloped off home.

Well when he got home he couldn't find a dish,
So he put it in the pot where his missus used to pish.

In the middle of the night, she got up to squat
And the crabfish grabbed her by the glory-be-to-God!

"Oh, husband, oh husband, oh husband come hither,
The devil's in the pish pot and got me on his tether."

Well, she grabbed the brush and he grabbed the broom
And the beat the little crabfish all around the room.

They beat him on the head and they beat him in the side
And they beat him in the bollix till the poor old bugger died.

Now the moral of this story is very plain to see:
Take a good look in the pish pot before you take a pee.


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Subject: Tune Add: THE CRABFISH
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Nov 99 - 04:20 AM

Thanks, Dan. guess I should have looked in your book first. Here's the tune, transcribed from Dan's book.
-Joe Offer-

MIDI file: CRABFISH.MID

Timebase: 192

Name: THE CRABFISH
Text: By (traditional)
Key: E
TimeSig: 2/4 24 8
Start
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End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:The Crabfish
M:2/4
Q:1/4=120
K:E
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G2G2G2G2|E2E2E2E2|B,4B,2A,2|G,2B,2B,2B,2|
G,2G,2B,4|G2B2B2A2|G2A2B2B2|A2G2F2D2|E8|E7/2||


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Subject: RE: Mr Radalum ?
From: Llewellyn
Date: 06 Nov 99 - 08:11 PM

That's the one, thanks guys


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Subject: crabfish crayfish shecrab seacrab
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Nov 99 - 03:11 AM

Click here to go to the MIDI for "Crabfish." Can't say my effort sounds as good as when Dan does it in person. Don't know why - I copied it straight out of his songbook.
-Joe Offer-
Crayfish is here (click) and Crabfish is here and Sea-crab is here and Shecrab is here, but no lobster yet.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lobster / Crabfish
From: pavane
Date: 27 Jun 02 - 11:49 AM

Just noticed this ole thread. Lobster and Crayfish (bawdy) are found Here

The Lobster song is current in the forces - I have heard soldiers singing it on a train. I don't expect they realised how old it was.


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Subject: RE: Mr Radalum ?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 02:48 AM

whenever i've heard this song, the chorus goes:

' singin' roe tiddley oh,roe tiddley oh, roe tiddley oh,tiddley oh, toe toe'


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Subject: RE: Mr Radalum ?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 05:51 AM

I had the song from Sean Cannon (name-dropper!) back in the seventies, with slight differences: "When she sat down for to make what she had/The crabfish grabbed her by the Glory-be to Gad". Always goes down well with the WI!

Steve


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Subject: RE: Mr Radalum ?
From: masato sakurai
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 02:02 PM

From The Traditional Ballad Index:.

Sea Crab, The

DESCRIPTION: A man stows a crab (lobster) in the chamber pot while his wife is asleep. She gets up to relieve herself; the crab grabs her "by the flue." He seeks to free her; the crab grabs his nose. Caught in this predicament, they send for a doctor to free them
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: c. 1620 (Percy Folio Manuscripts)
KEYWORDS: animal bawdy humorous husband injury marriage
FOUND IN: Canada (Ont) Britain(England,Scotland) US (Ap,MA,MW,Ro,SE,So,SW)
REFERENCES (7 citations):
Cray, pp. 1-4, "The Sea Crab" (2 texts, 2 tunes)
Randolph-Legman I, pp. 66-73, "The Sea Crab" (4 texts, 1 tune)
Sharp-100E 77, "The Crabfish" (1 text, 1 tune)
Kennedy 196, "The Crab-Fish" (1 text, 1 tune)
Hugill, pp. 277-278, "Whiskey Johnny" (2 texts, version "D" of "Whiskey Johnny) [AbEd, p. 206]
Logsdon 52, pp. 245-248, "The Sea Crab" (1 text, 1 tune)
DT, CRAYPOT, SHECRAB

ST EM001 (Full)
Roud #149
CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "Cod Fish Song"
ALTERNATE TITLES:
The Crayfish
The Fishy Crab
The Lobster
The Old She-Crab
Notes: This is one of the oldest of English language traditional ballads. F.J. Child deliberately excluded it from his canonical ESPB, presumably because of its indelicate nature. - EC
Kennedy says of this piece, "...it seems likely to be either French in origin or in imitation of French balladry (at any rate this is a chance to disown it as an English composition)." - RBW
Sharp's version differs from the canonical one in several ways, aside from having been cleaned up. The main theme of the song is that the woman is sick, and craves the crab, so the man goes and buys one. She goes to smell it, and it bites her, then him. Same song, very different emphasis. -PJS
File: EM001

Go to the Ballad Search form
Go to the Ballad Index Instructions
Go to the Bibiography
Go to the Discography

The Ballad Index Copyright 2009 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle.


....................................................
Percy's Folio Manuscript version is HERE.

~Masato


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Subject: RE: Mr Radalum ?
From: pavane
Date: 29 Jun 02 - 04:47 AM

I have also heard it called Mr RAZZLEDUM, with a similar text.

The last line was

'be sure you have a shufti before you have a pee'

Note: shufti is slang for look, derived from the arabic and I think it was probably brought back to the UK by soldiers after WW1


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Radalum? / Raddle-um / Crabfish etc.
From: GUEST,Ken Duffy
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 11:15 AM

Just came accross this thread. I have come accross some alternative lyrics recorded on Songs of the Irish Travellers cd and sung by Michael McDonagh in 1972..

The Crabfish

Oh, there was a little man and he had a little horse
And his saddle and his bridle dicky-pole accross

Mr Deedle-um, Doodle-um,old Mr. deedle-umpa-die-do-day

For he rode and he rode till he came to the brook
And he see the little fisherman fishing with his hook

Mr Deedle-um, Doodle-um,old Mr. deedle-umpa-die-do-day

Saying, Oh Mr fisherman, oh fisherman if you catch a crafish
Give unto me and I'll bring it home

Mr Deedle-um, Doodle-um,old Mr. deedle-umpa-die-do-day

But the fisherman, the fisherman he cotch a crabfish
He gave it unto me and I brought it home

Mr Deedle-um, Doodle-um,old Mr. deedle-umpa-die-do-day

Oh, when I brought it home sure Id neither pot nor dish
And I put it in the chamber where me mother used to piss

Mr Deedle-um, Doodle-um,old Mr. deedle-umpa-die-do-day

The mother got up for to do alittle drop
And the little oul crabfish stuck to her spot

Mr Deedle-um, Doodle-um,old Mr. deedle-umpa-die-do-day

Oh husband, oh husband, as sure as you are born
The devils in the pisspot giving me the horn

Mr Deedle-um, Doodle-um,old Mr. deedle-umpa-die-do-day

Oh, the master got up and he run for the whip
And the more he beat the codfish the more he held his grip

Mr Deedle-um, Doodle-um,old Mr. deedle-umpa-die-do-day

He beat him in the head and he kicked him in the side
And then the little codfish, then he did die

Mr Deedle-um, Doodle-um,old Mr. deedle-umpa-die-do-day


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Radalum? / Raddle-um / Crabfish etc.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 12:55 PM

Extra verse from Nora Cleary, The Hand, Miltown Malbay, Co. Clare, July 1976, The Hand, Miltown Malbay, Co. Clare, July 1976.
Jim Carroll

10 When you get married, don't get married too soon.
For if you don't use the poker, you'll surely use the broom.
Chorus


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Radalum? / Raddle-um / Crabfish etc.
From: Lighter
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 02:10 PM

Ed Cray prints an otherwise commonplace version sung to the tune of "The Old Chisholm Trail." Has anybody else heard that tune used for this song?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Radalum? / Raddle-um / Crabfish etc.
From: GUEST,Liam ( Australian version)
Date: 10 Jul 13 - 09:09 AM

Dad used to sing a different version as below. I just googled the first line which is the same and this is the most I could find. I was hoping to learn the rest of what I remembered, but perhaps he made up his own version. As below.

There was a little man and he had a little horse,
He came to a river by he couldn't get across.

Singing hey jimmy ho, jimmy come along with me
Singing hey jimmy ho jimmy Johnson

He tried to catch a fish, but he caught a bloomin crab
So he sent it back home in a black and white cab

Singing hey jimmy ho, jimmy come along with me
Singing hey jimmy ho jimmy Johnson

Hey mrs, hey mrs, cook this up for me
I gotta have a shower and I gotta have a pee

Singing he jimmy ho jimmy come along with me
Singing hey jimmy ho jimmy Johnson

Hey doc, hey doc, you better come quick
The crab's got his claw, where I ought to have my dick

Can't remember the rest and i probably missed or mixed up some parts but any help or similar version would great.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Mr Radalum? / Raddle-um / Crabfish etc.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 10 Jul 13 - 11:37 AM

Johnny Raddlum somewhat misses an important point covered by other versions, that the wife is pregnant, which is said to be the reason why she sends the man out for the crab in the first place.
Jim Carroll

From Mrs Overd's version, The Crabfish' collected in Somerset by Sharp

"Her belly it grew big and all she did wish
Was to get a taste of a little crabfish,
With me row dow dow, diddle al a day,
With me row dow dow, diddle al a day.


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