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Tech: Connection problem with old eMac

McGrath of Harlow 21 Apr 13 - 02:33 PM
McGrath of Harlow 21 Apr 13 - 05:26 PM
Sandra in Sydney 21 Apr 13 - 08:26 PM
GUEST,Jack Campin 21 Apr 13 - 09:12 PM
andrew e 21 Apr 13 - 10:58 PM
GUEST,Stim 21 Apr 13 - 11:51 PM
McGrath of Harlow 22 Apr 13 - 07:49 AM
GUEST,Stim 22 Apr 13 - 04:35 PM
McGrath of Harlow 23 Apr 13 - 02:36 AM
McGrath of Harlow 23 Apr 13 - 04:53 PM
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Subject: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Apr 13 - 02:33 PM

I've an old eMac my son passed on. It works fine, and I've put it in a shed reading room at the bottom of the garden, and want to connect it to the internet, using the router in my house, with a network adapter plugged in to a USB connection.

There's a good signal in the shed, shown by the fact my iPad works fine there - and when the eMac was in my house standing next to my computer, it worked fine, using the network adapter. In the shed I've entered the relevant key string from my router, and the eMac shows the router and the home network OK, and for ten seconds or so it shows a good connection, 80 or 90 % or more. Then it cuts out completely for a couple of seconds, and then shows the good connection as re-established for ten seconds or so, before cutting out completely and that keeps happening, And the browser consistently reports no connection.

Any savvy Mudcatter got any useful suggestions? Aside from "junk the old machine". It still works beautifully, aside from this little problem.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Apr 13 - 05:26 PM

Once again - but since it's in the music section:

My old Mac I stuck out the back,
To use in a desultory way.
So I switched on the box and on came the picture,
Then I stuck in the plug of the net connector,
But it shillied and shallied it shallied and shillied,
Lost the signal time and time again
I can't get my head round this old computer -
So I thought I'd ask my friends.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Apr 13 - 08:26 PM

maybe everyone can sing their tech requests!

sandra


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Subject: RE: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: GUEST,Jack Campin
Date: 21 Apr 13 - 09:12 PM

Run cat-5 cable to the house?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: andrew e
Date: 21 Apr 13 - 10:58 PM

I've done this using a Netgear WG111v3.
It did have trouble with the program not opening sometimes. Another USB port sometimes fixed it, and sometimes a short cable to the Netgear thingy.
It settled down eventually and then worked OK.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 21 Apr 13 - 11:51 PM

This could be a range problem or compatibility problem with the network adapter, or it could be an issue with security encryption. Open up the setup wizard for your router using another computer (preferably one that's hardwired to the router) and check thru the parameters.

Sometimes, when you're working with technology from different generations, they don't get along, and you may need to get the original airport card for your emac.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 07:49 AM

Open up the setup wizard for your router using another computer (preferably one that's hardwired to the router) and check thru the parameters.

That sounds like the way to go. The house computer is wired to the router, and so far as I camn see the numbers that show up seem to match the ones showing on the eMac. But I'm pretty ignorant about what I should be checking.

When it was in the house standing next to the router, but not wired in, it all seemed to ork without any worry about setting it up. So even though it shows as a pretty god signal, till it spontaneosly disconnects, and is fine with the iPad I'm wondering if it's just that it's too far from the router.

Andrews comment about it settling down sounds hopeful though. I'll try switching it on and leaving it for a few hours.

A cable from the house would be last rsport, and nor really worth it. If it came to that I'd probably forget about trying for an internet link, and just use it for other stuff. I'd use the iPad for getting on the net in the shed.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 04:35 PM

Some years ago, I was having trouble getting an old iMac connect to my wireless network(sound familiar?) and discovered that the Linksys setup wizard actually had a pull-down key that explained all of the settings and functions. You can also generally find documents and such things that explain every function at the mfg. website.

Also, check lowendmac.com for lots of info, support, and random things from and for folks who are using old mac stuff.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 02:36 AM

Thanks people. I'm off for a couple of days, so I probably won't be able to acknowledge any further helpful advice till I'm back. Then I can crack in with trying to sort things out with the eMac.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 04:53 PM

That linksys thing sounds just what Would be handy. However the router I'm using is the superhub supplied by Virgin, still, with luck that might have something equivalent. However my impression is that the techies online with Virgin, while polite and helpful, would regard anything to do with an eMac or an iMac as awesomely antiquated.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 23 Apr 13 - 05:37 PM

1. One significant change noted in summaries of "what was an eMac" report that the eMac used a PowerPC processor while all later stuff uses Intel. The flop between bigendian/littlendian data streams occured sometime around the switch, so connection to anything that assumes a different bit order than what you're connecting to could require a "thunker" that might be missing in your setup.

(thunking is a sort of generic term for describing swapping bit order or "cutting" back and forth between byte length packets. seldom encountered in the last decade or so since they've found simpler ways of doing it that don't merit bragging about it.)

2. For about the last year that eMacs were sold (and intermittently before that), sales were strictly limited to educational institutions, and it's possible that an "educational license" may have lapsed or been disabled and the eMac may not be able to boot past a startup (which might include finding a network, but not maintaining the connection).

(Random speculations from reading something somewhere, and with no significant knowledge of anything Apple, so don't take it seriously.)

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: Connection problem with old eMac
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Apr 13 - 01:24 PM

The thing is, while the eMac was standing next to the router, but only linked to it wirelessly via the network adapter plugged into the USB socket, it worked perfectly. But when I took it out to the shed it wouldn't recognise it. And then when I keyed in the key string from the router (which I hadn't needed to do before) it recognised the router, but started doing this connect then disconnect thing.


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