Lyr Req: Seven Deadly Sins

Subject: Seven deadly sins - lyrics plese!
From:
Date: 12 May 97 - 04:37 AM

I'm searching for the lyrics to an Irish song, called Seven deadly sins, or something like that. If you have them, please mail them to me.

Cheeers! /Sara

Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From:
Date: 12 May 97 - 06:22 PM

Uhmm.. I know a song that could also go by that title, but.. You know Irish folk songs, one song, ten names, thirty tunes.. If you could give a line of the song you know, I'll see if it's the same song I know, and if I can help! :)

Petra

Subject: Lyr Add: SEVEN DEADLY SINS
From:
Date: 15 May 97 - 05:27 PM

I can't believe I entered a request three days after someone else and didn't catch it sorry:

Petra and Sara,

The one I know goes as follows:

As I come home on Monday night, I had nothing at all to drink.
I spied a horse beside the door. That made me stop and think.
A boot, a hat, a pipe I spied, and then upstairs I ran,
And there beside me wife in bed was a great big hairy man.
"Must you come barging in?" she cried. "You've put him off his thrust.
For me and the village smithy we are practicing our lust.”

CHORUS
As I come home each night me troubles all begin,
For there's the missus practicing the seven deadly sins.

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 4-Feb-02.

Subject: Lyr Add: SEVEN DEADLY SINS
From: Lance Frodsham
Date: 15 May 97 - 06:35 PM

Here's the rest of what I have: As I posted a couple of days ago, I'm missing two days of sins. Any help with the two missing parts and or variants would be much appreciated.

As I come home on Monday night, I had nothing at all to drink.
I spied a horse beside the door that made me stop and think.
A coat, some boots and a pipe I spied, then upstairs I ran,
And there beside me wife in bed was a great big hairy man.
“Oh, must you come barging in?” she cried. “You’ve put him off his thrust.
For me and the village smithy we are practicing our lust.”

CHORUS:
As I come home each night me troubles all begin,
For there’s the missus practicing the seven deadly sins.

Well as I come home on Tuesday night as sober as a judge,
I saw no tea upon my plate where my old tea should lodge.
So I called my wife and I said to her, “Well, here’s a rum old do!
I got no tea upon me plate. Has it something to do with you?”
“I’ve sinned! I’ve sinned!” she cried. “There’s nothing for your tea.
For I have been a-practicing the sin of gluttony.”

CHORUS

As I come home on Wednesday night as dry as any old bone,
I saw a cat upon the stairs where no cat should have gone.
So I called me wife and I said to her, “Well, what’s all this here then?
Why is the cat all on the stair where no cat should have been?”
“Oh, I’m upstairs practicing pride,” she said, “in my best Sunday hat.
“I come before the fall,” says I. Then I fell over the cat.

CHORUS

As I come home on Thursday night, me tongue all hanging out,
I saw no books upon the shelf. They was all strewed about.
So I called me wife and I says to her, “Don’t tell me. Let me guess.
You’ve found another deadly sin and it’s called untidiness.”
“No, I’m trying to find out what covetousness means.
I wish we owned the dictionary I saw down at the dean’s.”

CHORUS

Well as I come home on Friday night a-gasping for a wet,
I saw no spouse upon the chair where my old spouse does set.
So I called me wife and I said to her, “Well, what’s a going on?
I left my spouse upon the chair. Wherever has she gone?”
“Look up, look up, you silly old fool. I’m hanging from the light.
For I’m a practicing sloth,” she says, “and I’ll be here half the night.”

CHORUS

The version I have comes from The Kipper Family, Yorkshire. If anyone knows where I can buy the Kipper Family songbook I would be eternally grateful. Andy's Front Hall used to carry it.
Lance F
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Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From:
Date: 16 May 97 - 06:38 AM

I've heard another "Seven Deadly SIns" sung by Ronnie Drew of the Dubliners: "Some say that kissings a sin, but tell me how can that be through, for kissing has been in this world since the very first day there was two" Is this the one you mean?

Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 20 Jun 97 - 03:57 AM

I'd be interested in the lyrics of the song Ronnie Drew sang. It's not a variant it's a completely different song. Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Lyircs to: Seven deadly sins
From:
Date: 20 Jun 97 - 09:35 AM

I'll try and find then over the weekend - Håvard

Subject: Lyr Add: SEVEN DRUNKEN NIGHTS
From:
Date: 22 Jun 97 - 01:52 AM

This is a very interesting thread to me. The words to 'Seven deadly sins' are very similar to a Dubliners song called "Seven Drunken Nights" - The other Dubliners song mentioned in this thread is really a totally different song.

Here's a bit of "Seven Drunken Nights":

Oh, as I came home on Monday night as drunk as drunk could be,
I saw a horse outside the door where my old horse should be.
Well, I called me wife and I said to her, “Would you kindly tell to me:
Who owns that horse outside the door where my ol' horse should be?”
“Ah, you’re drunk, you’re drunk, you silly old fool! Still you cannot see!
That’s a lovely sow that me mother sent to me.”
Well, it's many a day I've traveled, a hundred miles or more,
But a saddle on a sow sure I never saw before.

Oh as I came home on Tuesday night....

It goes on from there. Tuesday was a coat that she says was a blanket, Wednesday was a pipe that she says was a tin whistle, Thursday was pair of boots that she claims are geranium plants (!) and Friday is a head upon his bed that she insists is a baby boy...

Steve

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 4-Feb-02.

Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 22 Jun 97 - 04:08 AM

The "Seven Drunken Nights" song is a version of Child #274, "Our Goodman". There is even an Aussie version called "Shickered As He Could Be" (I'm not making this up) I can post the lyrics if there is any interest.

Cheers,
Alan

Subject: Lyr Add: SEVEN DEADLY SINS
From: Håvard
Date: 23 Jun 97 - 10:24 AM

SEVEN DEADLY SINS

Some say that kissing's a sin, but tell me how can that be true?
For kissing has been in this world since the very first day there was two.

CHORUS:
And if it was illegal, then the lawyers they would sue,
And the prisons would be full of folk who had a kiss* or two,
And if they didn't like it, then away the girls would run,
And if it wasn't plenty, then the poor folk would have none.

Some say that swearing's a sin, but where is the man that can tell?
For swearing has been in this world since the Devil was told, "Go to Hell!"

Some say that gambling's a sin, but I bet you thousand to one
That gambling has been in this world since horses and greyhounds could run.

Some say that smoking's a sin, but a pipe now and then is enough.
For smoking has been in this world since Adam taught Eve how to puff.

Some say that drinking's a sin, but a dram is the blessing of men.
For drinking has been in this world for ever and ever. - Amen!

*) Insert kiss, curse, bet, smoke and drink.

Unfortunately The Dubliners doesn't sing the last two verses of this song either (compare to 7 drunken nights). One can only imagine... (Anyway I'd be very interested to get them) -H

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 4-Feb-02.

Subject: Lyr Add: SEVEN DRUNKEN NIGHTS
From: Håvard
Date: 23 Jun 97 - 10:38 AM

And just in case anyone was wondering about the two last verses of "Seven Drunken Nights"....

As I came home on Saturday night as drunk as drunk could be,
I saw an arse up in the air, where my auld arse should be.
I called me wife and I said to her, "Would you kindly tell to me:
Who owns that arse up in the air, where my auld arse should be?"

“Ah! You're drunk, you're drunk, you silly auld fool! Still you cannot see!
That's a lovely pumpkin that me mother sent to me.”
Well, it's many a day I've traveled, a hundred miles or more,
But a pumpkin quite as smooth as that sure I never saw before.

And as I came home on Sunday night, as sober as could be,
I saw a thing in my wife's thing, where my auld thing should be.
So I walked up to the mantelpiece, took down the auld twelve-bore,
And you never saw two dirty bastards run so fast before!

-H

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 4-Feb-02.

Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 23 Jun 97 - 11:10 AM

thanks a lot!

Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Oct 97 - 03:56 AM

Well, has anybody found sins six and seven?
-Joe Offer, refreshing this thread-

Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Oct 97 - 03:57 AM

Well, has anybody found sins six and seven?
-Joe Offer, refreshing this thread-

Subject: ADD: Kissing's a Sin / Kissing goes by Favour
From: Bruce
Date: 25 Oct 97 - 11:38 AM

Here is "Some say that kissing's a sin" and an earlier version. No relative of "Seven deadly sins".

Herd's 'Scots Songs', II, 15, 1776.

Auld Sir Simon the King [i.e., tune, not song]

Some say that kissing's a sin,
But I say that winna stand:
It is a most innocent thing,
And allowed by the laws of the land.

It it were a transgression,
The ministers it would reprove;
But they, their elders and session,
Can do it as weel as the lave.

Its lang since it came into fashion,
I'm sure it will never be done,
As lang as there's in the nation,
A lad, lass, wife or a lown.

What can I say more to commend it,
Tho' I should speak all my life?
Yet this will I say in the end o't,
Let ev'ry man kiss his ain wife.

Let him kiss her, clap her, and dawt her,
And gie her benevolence due,
And that will a thrifty wife mak her,
And sae I'll bid farewell to you.

An earlier version

Kissing goes by Favour:
Or, A new composed Ditty, shewing how kissing began when the world began, and is like to continue till the worlds end: Here is also contained may pretty conceited passages concerning kissing, whcih cannot chuse but make all the people merry that will stay to heare it.

The tune is, I marry and thank you too.

To complement and kisse,
some hold to be a sin,
But I can tell you first of all,
how kissing did begin:
First Adam he kist Eve,
and so be got a sonne,
Tis above five thousand years agoe
since kissing first begun:
Since kissing first begun, brave boyes, [Chorus
since kissing first begun,
'Tis above five thousand years agoe,
since kissing first begun,

And after in a short pace,
the world bagan to increase,
Of men and women plentiously,
and then they kist a pace:
And ever since that time,
the trade come on amaine,
And she that hath been kissed once,
must needs be kist againe.
Must needs be kist again brave boys,
must needs be kist again, &c.

And now kissing is us'd,
I think all the world over,
In London, Gloster, Bristow and
in Cicest and Dover:
And in every place beside,
this kissing it is us'd.
I hold it for a practice good,
if it be not abus'd:
If it be not abus'd brave boys, [Chorus
if it be not abus'd.
I hold it for a practice good,
if it be not abus'd:

And now by consequence,
to you I can approve,
That kissing is the readest way,
and nearest step to love:
Suppose a brave young-man
should meet a handsome maid,
To kisse her over and over againe,
he will not be afraid:
He will not be afraid brave boys, [Cho.
he would not be afraid,
To kisse her over and over againe,
he will not be afraid:

At wakes and revills when
young people they doe meet,
They'l send for fidlers for to dance
and shake their nimble feet:
At every dances end,
the brave young blades will kisse,
Their lasses round, whose joys are crownd
what harm can come of this?
What harm can come of this brave boys
no harm can come of this.

Kissing is of such vertue,
'tis never out of date,
Both morning, evening, noon & night
it never comes too late:
Nor can it be refrained,
by any man or woman,
From highest to the lowest degree,
'tis every where so commnon:
Tis every where so common brave boys,
'tis every where so common.

The rich can doe no more Sir,
the poore will doe no lesse,
but when they with their sweethearts meet,
they'l clip, cole, hugge and kisse:
It hath so sweet a smack,
that none can it refraine,
From the Tamberlaine,
unto the weakest swaine:
Even to the weakest swaine brave boys,
unto the weakest swaine, &c.

If kissing comes in kind,
it sweet content doth bring,
'Tis as lawfull for a begger,
as it is for a king,
For if it were not lawfull,
then lawyers would deny it,
And if it were costly,
their clyants could not buy it:
Their clyants could not buy it brave boys,
their clyants could not buy it:
Let kissing be never so costly
some lawyers clarks will buy it.

And if it were not plenty,
young wenches could not have it,
And if it were not dainty,
old widows would not crave it:
And if it were not wholsome,
brave gallants would not use it,
And if it were not toothsome,
faire ladies would refuse it.
Gay ladies would refuse it brave boys
faire ladies would refuse it.
And many of their waiting maids
would not so often use it.

If kissing were out of fashion,
it would soone be laid aside,
By merchants wives in the Exchange
and also in Cheap-side:
Kissing's like Hampshire honey,
'tis wondrous rare and sweet,
Else country John would not kiss Jone
so oft when they doe meet.
So oft when they doe meet brave boys,
so oft when they doe meet.
Jack will kisse Gill, & Ned kisse Nell
when they together meet.

And now for to conclude,
and end my kissing song,
In which I meane no honest man
nor woman any wrong:
But faithfull friend-ship may abound
when folks together kisse:
When folks together kisse brave boys,
when youngmen maids do kisse,
And maidens then kisse them again
not harme can come of this.

Printed for Thomas Vere, at the signe of the Angel, without Newgate.

This is the first ballad in the 'Book of Fortune' collecion of ballads in the British Library. The latest ballad of the 32 in the collection appears to be one of mid-July, 1655.

The tune is a puzzle. "I marry and thank you too", here, is far earlier than the "Aye, marry and thank you too" ballad. See Simpson's BBBM. Simpson obviously realized this, and didn't mention the above as being sung to the later tune.

Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From: Rebecca H
Date: 25 Oct 97 - 11:52 AM

Thanks for the previous info, but it still doesn't provide me with the last two verses! I'll keep looking, but if anybody finds them, please post them!

Subject: Lyr Add: THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS
From: AndyG
Date: 27 Oct 97 - 05:08 AM

To enter once more into discussion of this song.

The Seven Deadly Sins

Well as I come home on Monday night, I'd had nothing at all to drink.
I saw a horse behind the door, that made me stop and think.
A coat, some boots, a pipe I spied, and then upstairs I ran.
And there in bed beside my wife, a great big hairy man.
Oh must you come barging in she cried, you put him off his thrust.
For me and the village smithy we, are practising our lust.

Well, as I come home each night, my troubles all begin,
For there's the missus practising, the seven deadly sins.

Well as I come home on Tuesday night, as sober as a judge.
I saw no tea upon my plate where my old tea should lodge.
So I called my wife, and I said to her, well here's a rum old do.
I've got no tea upon my plate is it something to do with you.
Oh I've sinned, I've sinned, I've sinned she said there's nothing for your tea,
For I have been a-practising the sin of gluttony.

Well as I come home on Wednesday night,as dry as any old bone.
I saw the cat all on the stairs, where that should not have gone.
So I called my wife, and I said to her, well what's all this here then,
Why is the cat all on the stairs, where that should never have been.
Oh I'm upstairs practising pride she said, in my best Sunday hat.
Pride come before a fall says I, and then I fell over the cat.

Well as I come home on Thursday night,my tongue all hanging out.
I saw no books upon the shelf, they was all strewn about.
So I called my wife, and I said to her, don't tell me let me guess,
You've found another deadly sin that's called untidyness.
No ! I'm a-trying to find out what covetousness means,
I wish I owned that dictionary we saw round at the Deans.

Well as I come home on Friday night,a-gasping for a wet.
I saw no spouse upon the chair, where my old spouse do sit.
So I called my wife, and I said to her, well what's a-going on,
I left my spouse all on this chair, wherever has she gone.
Oh, look up, look up, you silly old fool, I'm hanging from the light
For I am practising sloth she said and I'll be here half the night.

Words:Kipper Family
Tune: Kipper Family

The Kipper Family are residents of Trunch, Norfolk.
The Kipper Family are Dick Nudds & Chris Sugden.

NB The tunes are parodies in themselves and the songs don't always scan properly if you use the obvious traditional tune.
This is a parody of The Dubliners (recorded) version of Seven Drunken Nights, which had only five verses, so it too has five verses.

AndyG

(Disclaimer: I'm at work, my copy of the DT isn't, trans-atlantic connection is currently slow so I've not checked the on-line DB for entries)

Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From: Wolfgang
Date: 27 Oct 97 - 07:01 AM

there are two totally different songs both with the title "Seven deadly sins".
1. the one AndyG has posted: a parody on "Seven drunken nights".
2. a song starting "some say that kissin's a sin" posted june 23rd 1997 by Havard (see above).

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From: Nonie Rider
Date: 27 Oct 97 - 01:46 PM

AndyG: No, "Seven Deadly Sins" isn't in the DB by any search I can do.

So, does anyone know if there ARE two more verses for the other sins?

Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From: Rebecca H
Date: 28 Oct 97 - 01:30 PM

After reading the posting of an earlier version of a song called "Some Say That Kisssing's a Sin", I believe that the song that I'm looking for is a newer version of that because some of the lines are similar. But that's only one of the "sins" in the five verses. There are also gambling, smoking, drinking and swearing. There just has to be two more verses out there somewhere!

Subject: Lyr Add: SEVEN DEADLY SINS (Jim McLean)
From: Jim McLean
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 04:40 PM

OK Joe, as requested, here are the relevant details.I wrote the song called Seven Deadly Sins for the Dubliners. I obviously used the trad song Kissin's Nae Sin but wrote different lyrics and set the chorus to a variant of The Jolly Beggerman. The copyright details are Words and music Jim McLean, published by Scott Solomon Publications (now Carlin Music I believe) round about 1966.

Seven Deadly Sins
(Jim McLean, 1966)

Some say that kissing's a sin,
But tell me how can that be true ?
For Kissing has been in this world
Since the very first day there were two

Chorus :
Now if it wasn't legal, well the lawyers they would sue,
And the prisons would be full o'folks who'd had a kiss (bet/curse/smoke/drink) or two
And if they didn't like it -away the girls would run
And if there wasn't plenty, well, the ?poor they would get ?none

Remaining verses :
Well, some say that gambling's a sin,
But I'll bet you fifty to one,
That gambling has been in this world,
Since greyhounds and horses first run.

CHORUS

And some say that swearing's a sin,
But where is the man that can tell,
For swearing has been in the world,
Since the Divil was told "go to hell".

CHORUS

Now some say that smoking's a sin
And a pipe now & then is enough,
But smoking has been in the world,
Since Adam taught Eve how to puff.

CHORUS

And some say that drinking's a sin,
But a gargle is fine now and then,
But drinking has been in this world,
Forever and ever, AMEN !

CHORUS

Subject: RE: Lyics to: Seven deadly sins
From: Jim McLean
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 03:40 AM

PS I should have said the chorus melody is a variant of The Little Beggarman, also known as The Red Haired Boy etc...