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Chinese Martin D-45

PHJim 27 Apr 13 - 06:51 PM
Leadfingers 27 Apr 13 - 08:09 PM
pdq 27 Apr 13 - 08:36 PM
Midchuck 28 Apr 13 - 11:11 AM
Roger the Skiffler 28 Apr 13 - 11:49 AM
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Subject: Chinese Martin D-45
From: PHJim
Date: 27 Apr 13 - 06:51 PM

I was surprised that these folks could get away with this kind of advertising. I would never take a chance on it, but it's sure got me wondering. Notice that both the label and the brand on the spine say "C.F. Martin, Nazareth Pa., Made in U.S.A." I've never seen a D-45 with a cutaway or rosewood board.

Genuine Chinese D-45?

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Subject: RE: Chinese Martin D-45
From: Leadfingers
Date: 27 Apr 13 - 08:09 PM

That looks almost worth taking a chance on at the price !!

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Subject: RE: Chinese Martin D-45
From: pdq
Date: 27 Apr 13 - 08:36 PM

For that little money, you could expect a box of raw wood and an instruction book!

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Subject: RE: Chinese Martin D-45
From: Midchuck
Date: 28 Apr 13 - 11:11 AM

Martin does not make guitars in China. These are a total blatant rip-off, made possible by China's not giving a damn about intellectual property laws UNLESS it's a Chinese company's IP that's being stolen.

The sad part is, they're likely to be pretty good guitars for the money.

I am reminded of Mr. Kipling's The Rhyme of the Three Captains," which is, on its face, about a British merchant captain complaining to the Lords of the Admiralty about being robbed by John Paul Jones, the American privateer; but is actually Kipling complaining about American publishers printing his stuff and distributing it in the US without paying royalties, there being no international copyright convention back then...

...My foremast would not mend his boom, my deckhouse patch his boats;
He has whittled the two, this Yank Yahoo, to peddle for shoe-peg oats.
I could not fight for the failing light and a rough beam-sea beside,
But I hulled him once for a clumsy crimp and twice because he lied.
Had I had guns (as I had goods) to work my Christian harm,
I had run him up from his quarter-deck to trade with his own yard-arm;
I had nailed his ears to my capstan-head, and ripped them off with a saw,
And soused them in the bilgewater, and served them to him raw;
I had flung him blind in a rudderless boat to rot in the rocking dark,
I had towed him aft of his own craft, a bait for his brother shark;
I had lapped him round with cocoa husk, and drenched him with the oil,
And lashed him fast to his own mast to blaze above my spoil;
I had stripped his hide for my hammock-side, and tasselled his beard i' the mesh,
And spitted his crew on the live bamboo that grows through the gangrened flesh;
I had hove him down by the mangroves brown, where the mud-reef sucks and draws,
Moored by the heel to his own keel to wait for the land-crab's claws!


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Subject: RE: Chinese Martin D-45
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 28 Apr 13 - 11:49 AM

I see their non-cutaway version is fitted with a Fisherman (sic)pickup, so that's 2 copyright infringements, 3 if the D'Addario strings are fake as well. 2 sales listed with no feedback. I wonder these get past US customs - where does their mahogany come from?


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