BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 23 Jul 14 - 05:06 AM

Sad to see the personal attack in your last post.
You are incapable of normal debate.

You can't challenge anything I say, so you try to discredit me personally.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 23 Jul 14 - 04:59 AM

Of course I do not defend bombing civilians.
it is a war crime to target them.
I also support Hamas' right to defend its positions militarily.

Now, will you answer any of my questions?

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Musket
Date: 23 Jul 14 - 04:36 AM

"We"?

Err.. Has anybody here supported Hamas? Does anybody deny the Palestinian people the right to defend themselves against Israeli aggression?

Are you still defending bombing civilians?

Two way street. You are a one way Charlie. Try shutting up before you realise how embarrassing for yourself your stupid little comments are.

Disgraceful. I know now why you come out in support of every little bigot on every bigoted subject. If it quacks and all that. A mutual friend said at a club only last week that the Keith of these threads isn't a nice person. Me? I'd be ashamed to say I know him.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 23 Jul 14 - 04:28 AM

Does anyone deny that it was wrong to fire rockets at Israel?
Does anyone support Hamas in committing that unequivocal war crime?

If not, does anyone deny Israel the right to strike back at those war criminals, or do they lose that right because of the further war crime of siting among civilians?

If we allow Hamas to gain military advantage by committing war crimes, are we setting a dangerous precedent for future conflicts?

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Jul 14 - 02:34 AM

Solutions??

I hear echos,
In a maze of words!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Musket
Date: 23 Jul 14 - 02:15 AM

The international community requires Israel to cease killing people.

If what our bloodthirsty wannabe warriors on this thread wish for had any merit, surely the international community, UN, EU, LAN, USA etc would say Israel are OK to carry on?

But they don't.

As of two days ago, Netanyahu risks bring brought to account for war crimes, together with some of the Hamas hierarchy.

You will find that no respectable commentator sides with one set of criminals against the other with so much enthusiasm as the more repugnant people posting here.

Disagree with their disgusting agenda and they say you like to see dead bodies, or are anti Semitic. They seem to be about as low as you can get.

Good job nobody seems to be supporting them then.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Jul 14 - 01:59 AM

"we all know what those Jews are like, don't we?"
Now you are claiming that it is the Jews that have murdered the hundreds of men, women and children civilians in Gaza, used flechette bombs on them, destroyed their houses, schools, medical centres, and left thousands of them homeless and without adequate medical support.
Do you really hate Jews that much Booboo - get help!
"When the rockets are blown up, THEIR shrapnel will kill the local civilian, not the Israeli bomb"
And have killed eactly how many people Brucie, compared to the Israeli slaughter of Palestinians going on at present - get real, this "defence" crap has been exposed as the farce it always was.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 09:31 PM

And who sez they are " being used for military purposes"?

Israel.


Oh yeah right Schmeg, Israel, and we all know what those Jews are like, don't we?

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 09:06 PM

On Tuesday, a U.N. delegation led by secretary General Ban Ki-moon met with Israel's leaders, including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

At the visit, Netanyahu showed the Secretary evidence of the Hamas rockets that have been raining down from Gaza for the past few weeks.

The Prime Minister also showed detailed photos of the locations in Gaza where Hamas had dug tunnels inside a kindergarten and near a school.

When showing the maps and the tunnels, Netanyahu explained:

"The international community has pressed us to give cement to Gaza to build schools, hospitals and homes. And now we see what has happened to those deliveries of cement. They have not been used to build kindergartens but to build a tunnel that penetrates our territory so that Hamas can blow up our kindergartens and murder our children."

Netanyahu also gave an impromptu address to a group described by the Prime Minister's Twitter page as "ambassadors." In the brief statement, the Prime Minister delivered a clear warning to the rest of the world about radical Islam.

    "I ask not only for your support, I ask for your moral stance. I ask you to support Israel's right to defend itself, and not to sanctify the idea that these terrorists can attack a beleaguered democracy, can rocket our cities, can target millions of our people, can hide among their civilians, and get away with it. Because if they can, you're next."

    "And what message does it send? To Al-Queda, to Boko-Haram, to Hezbollah, to ISIS, what does it send? What kind of message does it send? What kind of moral message does it send?" he asked emphatically. "When Israel is being condemned for doing what any democracy would legitimately do to defend itself."

    "I ask you to stand with Israel because it is right. Because it is our right to defend ourselves and it is our right to exercise that right."


Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/watch-israeli-prime-minister-issues-dire-warning-world/#CvQ6ubZxE0Hj9IxH.99

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Greg F.
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 08:39 PM

Israel is within its rights to target anything being used for military purposes.

And who sez they are " being used for military purposes"?

Israel.

Get a fuckin' clue, Boo.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 07:23 PM

Under the rules of the Geneva Convention Israel is within its rights to target anything being used for military purposes. The only party in this set to that is in contravention of the Geneva Convention is Hamas. I must have missed your posts railing against that.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 07:09 PM

Wise words from a wise man:

"Gaza could have become a showcase of Arab enlightenment and enterprise after Israel withdrew from the territory in 2005.

It could also have become a tourism haven and a crucible for learning and arts, science and technology.

Instead, Gaza has become a one-party Islamic dictatorship under Hamas, dedicated to the destruction of the Jewish state of Israel."


"When Palestinians stop chanting for the death of Jews and Israel, and start working to secure their own state, they will achieve it.

Palestinians have demonstrated courage and perseverance. What they need now, is wisdom."

Stop the Jew-hatred​ and build Palestine

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 07:06 PM

Ambulances are not supposed to be used for terrorist purposes. But just as they did in previous conflicts with Israel, Hamas is using medical vehicles for moving their terrorists from one place to another. In the video above, released by the IDF Tuesday morning, an ambulance picks up two Hamas members and speeds off.

Hamas Terrorists Caught Using An Ambulance To Travel In Gaza

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Greg F.
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 06:42 PM

Breaking News: Ya just gotta love them Israelis - shooting at ambulances & fuck the Geneva Convention.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Greg F.
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 06:09 PM

I seem to have precipitated another bout of Serial Postarrhoea fro BB- for which I apologize to all & sundry..

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 04:37 PM

Hillary Clinton defends Israel on Gaza

"Because of the actions by Hamas, first to rain rockets onto Israel, Israel being provoked — because I do think that was part of the Hamas calculation, to provoke Israel to respond, to defend itself, which any nation has to do if you are under attack like that, and then we see the unfortunate effects of any conflict with innocent people being caught in the crossfires."

Politico

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 04:34 PM

'The union's 28 foreign ministers issued a joint statement after a meeting of the European Council, calling for an end to Hamas rocket attacks and an immediate ceasefire.

"The EU calls on Hamas to immediately put an end to these acts and to renounce violence. All terrorist groups in Gaza must disarm," it said in a statement.

It also condemned the rocket fire at Israel from the Gaza Strip as "criminal and unjustifiable acts," but said Israel must do more to prevent civilian casualties.

"While recognizing Israel's legitimate right to defend itself against any attacks, the EU underlines that the Israeli military operation must be proportionate and in line with international humanitarian law," it said.

The statement came as the Israeli and Palestinian death tolls climbed steadily, with some 30 Israelis killed since the operation began, and more than 600 Palestinians, many of them civilians.

The EU, which is often stridently critical of Israeli policies, also decried "calls on the civilian population of Gaza to provide themselves as human shields."

It said it was "extremely concerned" about the situation, and reiterated its call for an immediate ceasefire.

The EU also appealed for the open of crossings to transfer humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip, and emphasized that the current campaign pointed to "the unsustainable nature of the status quo" in the coastal enclave.

Earlier in the day, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon also condemned Hamas rocket fire and called on the group to stop using civilian sites for military purposes. He also called for a ceasefire."






I am waiting on ANY suggestion of what else Israel could do to reduce Palestinian civilian casualties when attacking Hamas military installation.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 04:27 PM

In a rather surprising development, the EU actually "gets it."

EU calls on Hamas, Islamic Jihad to disarm
28-country bloc defends Israel's right to fight, says indiscriminate rocket fire from Gaza is 'criminal and unjustifiable'

The Times of Israel

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 04:23 PM

Since the Hamas rockets are antipersonnel weapons, designed to kill as many as possible, unlike the high explosive Israeli bombs that destroy buildings and rocket launchers.

When the rockets are blown up, THEIR shrapnel will kill the local civilian, not the Israeli bombs.

I know, YOUR solution is to have Hamas launch them at Israel and kill Israeli civilians.

You should win some sort of humanitarian award- say a war crimes trial for what you support.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 04:20 PM

GregF,

"The school is situated between two other UNRWA schools that currently each accommodate 1,500 internally displaced persons,""


So when the Israelis legitimately blow the EMPTY school up, you will get all the Palestinian civilian casualties that your (very) little heart desirers.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 04:17 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-hEbpow5WE

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Greg F.
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 04:16 PM

VACANT school, Boo- not one (or a hospital) full of kids.

Time for you to go over to Gaza personally and report first-hand instead of your relentless cut&pastes.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 04:16 PM

GregF WANTS to have Palestinian civilians killled…


"As soon as the rockets were discovered, UNRWA staff withdrew from the area.

The discovery came after Israel Defense Forces (IDF) accused Hamas of using the Gaza City neighborhood of Shijaiyeh as "fortress for its weapons," according to The Algemeiner.

The IDF released aerial photos Sunday of rocket launch sites inside Shijaiyeh. The pictures claimed Hamas launched rockets from inside and around a mosque, a hospital, a children's playground and a cemetery.

The IDF also said the neighborhood is "saturated with Hamas observation points and is home to a vast network of tunnels used for attacking Israel."

On Monday, the IDF released a video of rocket launchers found next to an agricultural school in Beit Hanoun. Some of the rockets were still in the launchers, ready to be fired."




"In the second case in a week, the UN Agency responsible for Palestinians admitted that its staff had discovered rockets hidden in their schools in the Gaza Strip.

"Today, in the course of the regular inspection of its premises, UNRWA (the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East), discovered rockets hidden in a vacant school in the Gaza Strip," the agency said in a statement Tuesday evening.

"As soon as the rockets were discovered, UNRWA staff were withdrawn from the premises, and so we are unable to confirm the precise number of rockets. The school is situated between two other UNRWA schools that currently each accommodate 1,500 internally displaced persons," the organization said.

UNRWA said it "strongly and unequivocally condemns the group or groups responsible for this flagrant violation of the inviolability of its premises under international law," but did not name any Palestinian entities, like Hamas, which rules the coastal enclave.

"The Agency immediately informed the relevant parties and is pursuing all possible measures for the removal of the objects in order to preserve the safety and security of the school. UNRWA will launch a comprehensive investigation into the circumstances surrounding this incident," the agency said.

The statement is almost identical to one released after the last hidden rockets case, when the organization found 20 rockets in another Gaza educational facility on July 16th, in the midst of fighting in Operation Protective Edge.

A day later, Israel's UN Ambassador said he was certain that more such facilities housed Hamas weaponry.

"Yesterday, UNRWA admitted that it mysteriously found 20 missiles in one of its schools," Ambassador Ron Prosor said on Friday in an emergency Security Council session on Gaza.

"I'm sure that if UNRWA takes the time to check its other facilities, it will discover that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Hamas is using UN facilities to commit a double war crime by targeting Israeli civilians while hiding behind Palestinian civilians.""

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 04:10 PM

For second time, rockets found at UN school in Gaza

Today, in the course of the regular inspection of its premises, UNRWA discovered rockets hidden in a vacant school in the Gaza Strip," the organization said in a statement issued Tuesday. "As soon as the rockets were discovered, UNRWA staff were withdrawn from the premises, and so we are unable to confirm the precise number of rockets. The school is situated between two other UNRWA schools that currently each accommodate 1,500 internally displaced persons."

The Times of Israel

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Greg F.
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 03:41 PM

Killing the kids is just a prophylactic against future conflict, eh?

Absolutely. Boo, BB & FWK are chanelling Oliver Cromwell: "Nits make lice".

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 02:54 PM

Hey useful idiots check out this photo taken by Wall Street Journal reporter Nick Casey: Hamas spokesperson is being photograph in the basement of a hospital, designed to look like a wrecked outdoor neighborhood, in order to appear "authentic".

On Monday, Casey wrote: "You have to wonder [with] the shelling how patients at Shifa hospital feel as Hamas uses it as a safe place to see media."

During the 15 days of Israel's Operation Protective Edge, Hamas has been caught using hospitals, mosques and schools to hide militants and weapons, all of which are contrary to international rules of war created to protect civilians.

The Algemeiner

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 11:21 AM

"Palestinian armed groups have continued to fire rockets that are indiscriminate when directed at Israeli population centers, in violation of the laws of war. Ouda Lafi al-Waj, 32, was killed and four of his family members were wounded when a rocket struck their home in an "unrecognized" Bedouin community near the town of Dimona in southern Israel on July 19. A rocket badly wounded two Bedouin girls in another "unrecognized" village on July 17.

On July 16, staff of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) found 20 rockets stored in an empty school building. UNRWA promptly removed them, notified all parties, and condemned the military use of its facilities by an unidentified Palestinian armed group. Palestinian armed groups should end unlawful attacks on Israeli population centers and avoid deploying forces and munitions in areas that unnecessarily place civilians at risk."

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 11:13 AM

"And of course the claims of the Palestinian Health Authority"
HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 08:34 AM

ain't it just like a bully to blame the victim.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Musket
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 08:20 AM

I like how terrorist sympathisers such as braidedbeardedbruce and Keith A Hole of Hertford love to bandy the two words "Palestinian" and "Hamas" around interchangeably.

There again, anybody who agrees with the international community on the criminal aspects of the Israeli forces are called anti semitic bastards, so not a bit surprised at the bloodthirsty crap that gives such odious people a stiffy.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 08:12 AM

"you also regard every Palestinian (man, woman, and child) as a terrorist."
Israel most certainly does
The casualty total has now exceeded 600
Israel's use of Flechette shells
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 08:07 AM

"which are the only "evidence?" for the above claims and which of course are totally impartial"

And of course the claims of the Palestinian Health Authority that so many of the killed are children or non-combatantsHAS to be believed, right? And that ALL are killed by Israeli fire, and not a single Palestinian antipersonnel rocket that has been seen to fall in Gaza has ever hurt ANYONE?


I guess it is ONLY Israelis that you call liars- after all, Palestinians would never lie to gain a political advantage, right?


What a bush of shit for brains.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 08:04 AM

Troubadour, are you saying that it is a lie that Hamas fires rockets from sites adjacent to hospitals.
I have to tell you that it has been actually shown on news reports.
Hamas does not even deny operating from civilian areas.
Can you find one single source, from anywhere in the world, that does deny it.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 07:40 AM

"you also regard every Palestinian (man, woman, and child) as a terrorist."


Another lie, in addition to your other ones.




MOST Palestinians are not in favor of Hamas rocket attacks.


But those anti-Semites here that blame Israel for having the audacity to survive, and not let itself be wiped out, will continue to equate mass bombardment of civilian areas by Hamas anti-personnel rockets as the same as targeted strikes at military target in self-defense would not allow any Israeli to survive, if they had their way.

Ask Hamas what their goal is.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 07:29 AM

At the Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, crowds gathered to throw shoes and eggs at the Palestinian Authority's health minister, who represents the crumbling "unity government" in the West Bank city of Ramallah. The minister was turned away before he reached the hospital, which has become a de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders, who can be seen in the hallways and offices.

Washngton Post

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 07:07 AM

Without even trying to intervene directly in this interminable exchange, would just observe that this swop&swop of copy-pasted reports from publications or communiqués of the two opposing sides, along with assertions that this one is trustworthy but the other is only a bit of the old Mandy R-D, constitutes a never-ending mulberry-bush round which it might be politic to stop going ad ∞, & move on to some other motif before Grim·☠☠·Reaper·☠☠·Esq supervenes...

Just saying

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 06:41 AM

"whose twisted view of reality..."
GRIM REALITY
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 06:41 AM

"HAMAS HAS SITED MILITARY INSTALLATIONS IN HOMES< SCHOOLS< AND HOSPITALS >>>WHICH IS A WAR CRIME YOU KEEP SILENT ABOUT<<<"

ACCORDING TO ISRAELI PROPAGANDA SOURCES, which you trust in the almost mindlessly naive fashion in which you also regard every Palestinian (man, woman, and child) as a terrorist.

Killing the kids is just a prophylactic against future conflict, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 06:30 AM

"Hamas's use of civilians and civilian buildings in Gaza as a shield is well known. Media reports tell of rockets being launched from residential buildings and schoolyards, munitions stored in houses, mosques and hospitals, Hamas leaders using civilian homes as command posts, and civilians being encouraged to go up on their roofs as human shields. These reports unfortunately rarely, if ever, mention that such conduct violates the law and, even more important, puts civilians at ever greater risk of death and injury."

Mandy Rice-Davies!!

ISRAELI Media reports, which are the only "evidence?" for the above claims and which of course are totally impartial......and pigs might fly!

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 10:19 PM

bobad: "I doubt you'll receive any cogent replies from those whose twisted view of reality..."

Right now, it appears I won't even get a 'reasonable facsimile'. Maybe if they can't come up with one, it's and indication that they ought to reconsider their biases.
But one of them might come up with something...who knows?... maybe someone on Mudcat has the answer to the centuries old problem...besides humans having the amazing capacity for dumb opinions!
Give it a shot, guys!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 07:04 PM

This comment is from my friend Tarek Fatah, a Muslim who is a tireless campaigner against militant Islam. It succinctly sums up the current situation, IMO.

"The courage and perseverance of the Palestinians cannot be denied, but their rightful quest for statehood has been ruined by an evil Hamas that has turned their national struggle into an Islamic Jihad against Jews that is destined to fail. What a pity. What a waste of precious lives and sacrifices."

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 06:28 PM

I doubt you'll receive any cogent replies from those whose twisted view of reality calls Israel an aggressor and terrorist for having the temerity to defend itself. I'm sure Hitler's supporters also called the forces allied against him aggressors.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 05:53 PM

bobad: "And be legally and morally justified in doing so I might add.

bobad: "What would you expect your country to do, if missiles were blowing up in your neighborhood??"
Any normal country would move to eliminate that threat."

OK..We've heard from one side....how about the other??

BTW, who launched the first strike?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 04:16 PM

Neither do (target civilians) - Hamas hasn't got the wherewithal to do so,

Wrong Jim.
Hamas do.
Those people you call "resistance fighters" are defined as terrorists by Ireland, rest of EU and most democracies precisely because they do.

Their suicide bombers' preferred target is buses, preferably with schoolkids on board.
Their mortars target kibutzes.
Their indiscriminate missiles are aimed at population centres.
That is what they do.

Every dead Palestinian civilian is a propaganda disaster for Israel, so they try hard to avoid them.
Every dead civilian is a propaganda victory for Hamas, so.....

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 04:12 PM

And be legally and morally justified in doing so I might add.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 04:11 PM

"What would you expect your country to do, if missiles were blowing up in your neighborhood??"

Any normal country would move to eliminate that threat.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 03:34 PM

"Civilians must NEVER be targeted.
Hamas still does, but Israel does not."
Neither do - Hamas hasn't got the wherewithal to do so, Israel has the firepower not to have to bother.
It's just been announced that Ban Ki-moon had condemned Israeli action and has demanded they cease fire immediately
Sy#tick your war crimes butchery appeasement up your hole, you and your mates
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 03:17 PM

OK..We've heard enough of the 'justifications' and 'blame throwing'..Now WHAT WOULD YOU DO?????...as Israel and/or Hamas??

This seems to be a topic that the pro-Hamas/anti-Semitics, are doing their best to avoid and not weigh in on. Anyone can bitch...but how about a solution, or at least a plan, as you see it.....unless all you see fit to do is piss, whine and moan.
I am as anti-war as any of you...but that is not the same as anti defending your country, when facing unprovoked barrages of missiles.
What would you expect your country to do, if missiles were blowing up in your neighborhood??
Answers??

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 02:41 PM

BTW, anyone who would equate Israel to Hamas is sick, IMO.

Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
From: bobad
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 02:34 PM

Israel is militarized for the same reason that Hamas is....is that what you're saying? If so then you are the one who is being willfully blind.