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BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term

Stringsinger 20 Jan 14 - 01:56 PM
Jack the Sailor 20 Jan 14 - 02:15 PM
Jack the Sailor 20 Jan 14 - 02:41 PM
GUEST,Musket 20 Jan 14 - 02:44 PM
Don Firth 20 Jan 14 - 02:49 PM
GUEST,Musket 20 Jan 14 - 03:04 PM
Jack the Sailor 20 Jan 14 - 03:06 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Jan 14 - 03:07 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Jan 14 - 03:15 PM
Jack the Sailor 20 Jan 14 - 03:28 PM
Jack the Sailor 20 Jan 14 - 03:31 PM
Don Firth 20 Jan 14 - 03:31 PM
akenaton 20 Jan 14 - 03:36 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Jan 14 - 03:57 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Jan 14 - 04:16 PM
Don Firth 20 Jan 14 - 04:44 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Jan 14 - 08:03 PM
Stilly River Sage 20 Jan 14 - 10:01 PM
GUEST,Musket 21 Jan 14 - 12:58 AM
Jack the Sailor 21 Jan 14 - 09:17 AM
GUEST,Musket 21 Jan 14 - 01:28 PM
Jack the Sailor 21 Jan 14 - 01:40 PM
GUEST,Troubadour 21 Jan 14 - 03:06 PM
GUEST,The Ghost of Christmas Past 21 Jan 14 - 03:14 PM
Stilly River Sage 21 Jan 14 - 03:38 PM
Jack the Sailor 21 Jan 14 - 04:00 PM
Jack the Sailor 21 Jan 14 - 04:04 PM
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Don Firth 21 Jan 14 - 04:22 PM
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Jack the Sailor 21 Jan 14 - 04:27 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Stringsinger
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 01:56 PM

Joe,

"Nobody cares what you believe or don't" is unfortunately not true. If we accept the Constitution, then this should be true but it is also true that threads like this are started by people who want to trash those who are non-believers. My thread was posted in reaction to this.

I am increasingly amazed at the vitriol that people have who do not want to discuss their religious beliefs rationally. It should be no different than those wanting to discuss their political, musical or economic beliefs. There is nothing sacrosanct about a person's belief system that can't be discussed in a rational, civilized manner.

There is the problem that in most cases, religious beliefs tend not to be rational and this is borne out by the role of religion in politics, today and the fanaticism of those in the military industrial complex and the air force who are trying to Christianize the public.

Those who are annoyed by this discussion are generally those who may not be sincere in their belief systems. Otherwise they have the right to opt out and not respond.

I still maintain that there is a large percentage of religious people who take it upon themselves to deride or degrade non-belief because of their indoctrination.

I welcome a rational discussion on this topic and have thrown no crap at people who are religious personally but I think that religion has had a track record of violence, vitriol and superstition not to mention the obnoxious behavior of evangelism.

This is a worthy topic of conversation.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 02:15 PM

>>>From: GUEST,Musket - PM
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 12:14 PM

Let's all sit cross legged at the feet of the noble self appointed arbiter of what people are allowed to say.

Let's all marvel as he puts words in people's keyboards and makes sweeping general observations of why you say what you do. <<<

These two things apply to you more than anyone on this forum. You arbitrate allowed opinions and punish offenders by calling them names.


You not only use "sweeping generalizations." You also use words like "ginger" and "paki" to refer to human beings. Of course if you understood, you would know that you are free to act like a bigot.

You are also free to try reverse psychology on me for saying that I am "predictable" when you know bloody well that I am simply doing what I said I would do.

It is like the puppy who pees on the floor saying it is "predictable" when he gets bashed on the nose with a newspaper. The puppy is right of course. But that doesn't mean that pissing all over this forum should be tolerated.

Which brings me to the point of this post and several others recently.

Click here to read the rules.

You will see the rules in all of their glory. You will a picture of the man who wrote them.

You will see that I can be what I want. I don't want to be a person who points out the rules to everyone. I do want to be a person who points out the rules to you! as long as you are breaking them. Again I ask you to practice your cathartic stress release somewhere other than here. If you want to point out bigotry or arbitrate other peoples words here, the rules Max wrote do not forbid that IF you do it kindly, politely and without trying to pick a fight.

However, if, in future, you are unkind, impolite, argumentative, or snooty, I will probably point it out. Not because it is just, or wise or fair, but because I am free to be what I want as long as I am not unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak. Reminding you of your own stubbornness and childishness is a lot more satisfying than being drawn into your silly arguments.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 02:41 PM

>> If we accept the Constitution, then this should be true but it is also true that threads like this are started by people who want to trash those who are non-believers. My thread was posted in reaction to this.<<<

Stringsinger

This thread was started by you sir in fact this thread is a combination of two threads like this started by you.

Is it fair to say that you start threads like this to trash non-believers. Or would you rather just admit that your statement is in error?

Are you aware that the constitution only protects people from government interference in their speech? It would be a good thing for you to keep in mind.

>>I am increasingly amazed at the vitriol that people have who do not want to discuss their religious beliefs rationally. It should be no different than those wanting to discuss their political, musical or economic beliefs. There is nothing sacrosanct about a person's belief system that can't be discussed in a rational, civilized manner.<<

The vitriol on this forum about religion on this forum comes overwhelmingly from a few people who are not religious and there is no lack of uncivilized talk on each and all of the topics you mentioned. On the topic of religion I don't see much civilized discussion on your part. You tend to lecture, "discussion" implies balanced communication.   

>>I still maintain that there is a large percentage of religious people who take it upon themselves to deride or degrade non-belief because of their indoctrination.<<

No one has argued that. Though I might ask you to put some numbers behind "large percentage."

It has been argued that there are a few very vocal non-believers who take it upon themselves to deride or degrade belief because of their indoctrination or lack of it.

It has been argued that some non-believers act like evangelicals with a dogma of non-belief instead of Christianity. People have wondered if such people are among us.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 02:44 PM

I have never used ginger or paki you stupid fool. I write for a British audience, as irony and mockery of bigotry is generally seen for what it is in more sophisticated societies.

Streuth....

By the way, I doubt study of rules is a prerequisite to use a public website. Granted, you may not understand where the moderators are coming from if they edit or delete your posts but 99% of people here take that risk.

Whilst we are at it, if you were logical or rational, you too could apply to be a moderator.

I haven't read the rules. I have no intention of reading the rules. If Max wants half a debate in these threads that would be his affair, but from where I am sitting, challenging bigotry, homophobia, misogyny and crass stupidity is not on his shit list just yet. I hope it never is, but if it ever is, hopefully hatred will be barred at the same time.

Pissing on the carpet is one thing, but the likes of Goofus and the worm drop the odd shit on it for good measure.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 02:49 PM

One last but IMPORTANT note on this matter, then back to the original subject of this thread:

I presume that anyone and everyone here with an I.Q. over that of the average toenail fungus knows that Guest from InSanity is lying through his teeth about me. NONE of what he has written about me is true!

He should be aware that he is guilty of libel, by putting into print (and that includes in internet forums and blogs) defaming and untrue statements about another person. And that that person can then SUE them for libel and defamation of character.

Hiding behind a "Guest" designation or other pseudonym still does not keep one sufficiently anonymous that he or she cannot easily be found and called to account. Every time someone posts on a forum, they leave behind a record of their IP address—which is essentially the same as "caller ID" with a telephone. All a Mudelf would need to do is pull up any message that someone posted and there is the poster's IP address. And that poster can then be traced.

An attorney could subpoena the information if necessary, and find out WHO authored that post—name, address, all the information.

So, as I say, hiding behind a phony name doesn't mean one is really anonymous.

In the early Sixties, I had occasion to sue a music store owner who was bad-mouthing me as a guitar teacher, and I won the case. He was ordered by the court to cease and desist (shut his big mouth) and pay me several thousand dollars in damages.

So I am familiar with the procedure.

HAVE A CARE, Guest from InSanity. I can haul your ass into court!!

And I'm thinking seriously about it.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:04 PM

I reported the website for not deleting incitement to hatred, an offence where Akenaton lives. I doubt with the workload that it would get followed up, but you have to make a stand.

Goofus's awful attacks on you are beyond anything anyone should have to read. Sadly, our self appointed holier than thou merchant fails to notice, he just wants me thrown off for calling the shit Goofus.

They say there is one in every village Don. We have a commune of them here. Both sides of the pond.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:06 PM

>>>I presume that anyone and everyone here with an I.Q. over that of the average toenail fungus knows that Guest from InSanity is lying through his teeth about me. NONE of what he has written about me is true!

He should be aware that he is guilty of libel, by putting into print (and that includes in internet forums and blogs) defaming and untrue statements about another person. And that that person can then SUE them for libel and defamation of character.<<<

I have not seen I.Q. data for toenail fungi so I can't speak to that. But I believe you next to zero cause for a libel suit. You'd have to prove that he wasn't joking, he said it knowingly and deliberately and that he is of sound mind. You may be able to prove one or two of those things about GfS, but not all three.

I think that the likelihood of you scaring him with hints of libel is even more remote.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:07 PM

Stringsinger: "There is the problem that in most cases, religious beliefs tend not to be rational and this is borne out by the role of religion in politics, today and the fanaticism of those in the military industrial complex...."

I agree!....Just as politics has replaced statesmanship, religion has tried to replace any true understanding of the Spiritual.....and the war against the Spiritual and the war against true statesmen has been running rampant amongst those who are either too lazy or too stupid to find out and know the difference!..and as a result the whole of the body politic, and/or the genuine belief is God suffer. Politics is its own worse enemy, and 'religions' do more to make banal any depth of real cause and effect, of the unseen powers that otherwise would have profound meaning.

I also agree with Stringsinger, that a salient discussion would be in order....but due to the tactics of the 'less than open-minded' we're stuck with the puerile antics of 'believers' of either, that is corrupt political policies AND impotent 'religious' dogma!! Even those tactics are chosen for those to disengage and avoid getting to the bottom of the motives and the 'powers-that-be' behind the curtain....and these silly fucks just go right along with it. It is a cancer on the brotherhood of mankind and the body politic, alike!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:15 PM

Tell us, oh Inflated One, what is the lie?
I'm only repeating what you bragged about, when you thought you were impressing people.
YOU'RE the one who implied I was a pedophile!!..and you got blasted back with your own medicine...except mine was based on what you said to be true...and the added element of common sense!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:28 PM

>>>I haven't read the rules. I have no intention of reading the rules. If Max wants half a debate in these threads that would be his affair,<<<

That works very well for me as it allows me to rub your nose in your own pig headedness and disrespect for this forum. And anyone who wants to see if what you are doing is right, they can read the rules of the forum. As I said, point out your antisocial behavior on this forum is more fun than wallowing in your mud.


>>> but from where I am sitting, challenging bigotry, homophobia, misogyny and crass stupidity <<<   


You are doing none of those things. You are childishly calling people names. How do you think you are challenging bigotry by perpetuating stereotypes by using terms like "Paki" and "Ginger?"
I have not seen the people you call "bigots" use these terms to refer to people, only you. But there is no rule against being a weekminded hypocrite who hides behind so-called humor, which a lot of bigots do. So if I thought that was what you are doing I probably wouldn't bother to point it out other than to enjoy the irony of you calling people "bigot."

I have enough to enjoy in pointing out every day that you are again being an obnoxious stubborn rule breaker and then watching you use playground psychology to try to get me to stop. By all means don't read the rules and abide by them if that is the kind of man you are Ian Mather.


>>is not on his shit list just yet. I hope it never is, but if it ever is, hopefully hatred will be barred at the same time.<<<

I don't think its a "shit list" Ian. I don't think he wants to be your daddy. I think he posted those rules expecting most of us to be grown ups and respect them. I would like for you to be a grown up and respect the posted rules. But I don't think that you will.

>>>Pissing on the carpet is one thing, but the likes of Goofus and the worm drop the odd shit on it for good measure. <<<

Look at that you literally dropped a "shit" on this thread.

And biting at the other puppies and worse, not learning, will get you sent to the pound.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:31 PM

>>I reported the website for not deleting incitement to hatred, an offence where Akenaton lives. <<

Are you are saying that you reported Max to the Scottish authorities?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:31 PM

No, Jack. I've been through the drill and know what's involved. Trying to claim he was "only joking" is extremely lame, and in no way constitutes a defense.

Goofus, I NEVER said any of the things you claim I said.

I'm copying and pasting your posts about me to show to my attorney.

Keep giggling. You might just be giggling on the other side of you face quite soon.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:36 PM

"I reported the website for not deleting incitement to hatred, an offence where Akenaton lives"

I'm afraid I must tell you Ian, that you have committed the cardinal sin. You have broken the main rule in the book, a rule which when broken on a couple of previous occasions, resulted in the miscreants being "disappeared"....never to be heard of again.
Alas poor Shambles! I knew him well.

The rule you have broke is as follows.
"Being for or against that of what we do not speak"

I would tell you what "that of what we do not speak" is,....but I dare not, lest I suffer the same fate which awaits YOU. :0(


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 03:57 PM

So sue me...I could always use the money!
Oh, and don't forget to include YOUR posts....including the one that you allege me to be a pedophile...AND the others from the past, that shows that I, for one, wasn't making anything up...repeating back to you your history as told to us by you!!

BTW, frivolous lawsuits can be more expensive to the person filing them, than the original suit...some states even have criminal charges for filing them!

...and don't think I'm kidding!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 04:16 PM

That's the problem with people who believe their own press.....DELUSION!

....now, maybe we can get back to the main topic....Don uses this same tactic over and over again....he wants all the threads to end up a forum in which he gets everyone to be talking about him....when no one is even remotely interested, he'll kick it off be talking about himself.
It happens every time he gets backed into a corner, and can't back up his frothing rants!

OK..enough about Don....and his past reckless 'sexploits'....

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 04:44 PM

Man, he's just shoveling the hole deeper!

Keep it up, Goofus. It all makes interesting reading.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 08:03 PM

Well if you weren't such a block-headed, stubborn spin-master, you'd find a lot of interesting reading on here...some even from me...but you're so full of yourself, you can't absorb anything!...Well you know what they say about 'know-it-alls'...they think they know it all, so the can't learn anything.
Ever noticed that?


Frustrating isn't it?
Oh well!.....back to the topic...'Militant Pests'

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 10:01 PM

Gust, you're even more full of shit than usual. Take a breather.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 12:58 AM

I give up. Jack the Sailor makes it quite clear he is not capable of understanding. His defence of the rather nasty person behind Goofus plus his support of the worm make his agenda perfectly clear.

Which is fine.

It does however cross the rubicon from twisting his tail because the reaction is fun to just dismissing him with contempt.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 09:17 AM

I'm really happy to have you dismiss me with contempt or otherwise, if it means you stop calling me names and that you try to become a respectful member of this forum.

But lets be clear, I'm not defending anything that GfS or any of the people you attack say. I am merely pointing out that the rules say that they are free to do as they wish within the rules as are you. They break the rules much less than you and your rule breaking is often aimed at me.

If you want to point out bigotry, If you want to dispute a rule, you can do it within the rules. Many of us do so regularly.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 01:28 PM

If the disgraceful accusations Goofus comes out with or the homophobic hatred the worm mutters are within the rules, one of the following applies.

1. You can't read.
2. You don't understand what you read.
3. The rules aren't fit for purpose.

I shall now have a quick scan of said rules.

Hang on.








Nope. They seem to fit the bill. Must be you duck.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 01:40 PM

Ian Mather,

The rules are very very very simple and very very very easy to understand and abide by if you so choose.

You are free to inform those people that you feel they are not living up to your interpretation of the rules. You are not free to be unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak.

I have no doubt that in the rough and tumble of spirited debate that most of us, including those that you have called names, do violate those rules. Only one person brags when he does it. Only one person does it several times a day almost every day.

I don't care to remind them of the rules. They are not my concern. You are my concern, Ian Mather, for reasons which have been explained many times.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 03:06 PM

"It is not all the same to me. It is not all the same to Max."

If there were the slightest smidgeon of truth in that statement, Max would have already dealt with it.

I suspect (tho' not claiming to KNOW his mind) that Max is heartily sick of your pissing and moaning about all who fail your twisted idea of good behaviour.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,The Ghost of Christmas Past
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 03:14 PM

Ian, GfS did NOT express hatred for homosexuals, that is only YOUR take on it. Sounds like the hatred is in your head.

GfS happens to have had some of the most insightful, interesting, witty, amusing and entertaining posts on Mudcat.

It certainly appears to me, that because GfS has also accurately pointed out some of the most egregious examples of hypocrisy in our political divide, Don Firth being the most glaring example, that Don encouraged Stilly River Sage to boot him off, whether temporarily or not, time will tell, because GfS accurately called Don's opinionated hypocrisy for what is is, and Don just couldn't handle it!

With that in mind, instead of making Mudcat a fair place for different perspectives and exchange of varying ideas, Stilly River Sage, along with the nonsense of the lunatic fringe of the left, is turning Mudcat into a place that is 'safe for hypocrisy'.

A protest is in order!

The Ghost of Christmas Past
(And NO, I'm not GfS)


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 03:38 PM

Yes you are.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 04:00 PM

GUEST,Troubadour

Thanks for the feedback, but I will stand by what I said. The rules Max wrote are clear enough. I'm going with the thought that he meant what he said when writing them and if he felt otherwise now he would have changed the rules.


There are all kinds of reasons why he may not be cracking down on each instance, the most likely reason that he does not have the time to waste baby sitting the rule breakers.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 04:04 PM

I don't think it is GfS SRS. The content is very similar but the writing style is way different.

Not that it matters.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 04:17 PM

One of his regular IP addresses, Jack. And who else would give him such a shining review?

Guest, you'll be allowed back but your behavior is that of a stalker, so if you don't stop following people around and pouncing on them your messages will be deleted or you'll be put in time out again. To think we bothered to worry about you when you were so ill a while back. What fools we were.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 04:22 PM

CLICKY.

I think Stilly checked the IP number, Jack. The style is not that different.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 04:23 PM

Yep!

DF


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 04:27 PM

I stand corrected.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 08:18 PM

I understand, Goofass. I wouldn't want to be identified as GfS either.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jan 14 - 11:20 PM

Poor sod! Hoist with his own petard and last seen running for the horizon with his ass on fire. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 01:12 AM

Hang in there, Jack, and check this out...........

Jack the Sailor: "I don't think it is GfS SRS. The content is very similar but the writing style is way different."

"I stand corrected."

Firth: "I think Stilly checked the IP number, Jack. The style is not that different."

Firth: "Yep!"

Gillmor: "I understand, Goofass. I wouldn't want to be identified as GfS either."

The Ghost of Christmas Past: "(And NO, I'm not GfS)"

Stilly River Sage: "Yes you are."



Oh Goodie!! A PERFECT EXAMPLE of what I just previously posted, which was:

From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jan 14 - 12:33 PM

"Let me re-phrase...Politics is the tactic of deceiving people, through propaganda, to build a consensus by getting people to abandon their common sense..."

Jack, your instincts and common sense was absolutely correct!
It wasn't me.....Now note the feeling you get when this question is answered, versus the feeling of having to abandon your common sense...
(sometimes a well placed question can change a life)...and remember atheism does not believe in God nor his laws, like lying etc etc...

Stilly and Don say it was because they checked my IP address..therefore it was me......

Now here's the question....
How could it have been my IP address when my IP address was blocked??
She said she checked..Don said, "I think Stilly checked the IP number, Jack. The style is not that different."

Whatever you detected, when you said "....but the writing style is way different" was your common sense. Their Atheist/'so-called liberal' Propaganda made it appear different, appealing to those with like ideologies...

Truth, and this can be verified by a truly objective 'moderator'...and if found to be true, SRS should be canned.....
That IP address has never ever been used by me, in 9196 posts, and she blocked my computer.


'Militant Atheism' is Godless propaganda"...No laws of 'love' or 'honesty'.....deceiving those who they can...See how it works?
..and the difference between left and right wings....is all about MONEY...how it is handled, and who controls it....as long as 'WE, THE PEOPLE' are passive, obedient consumers!..they will have NOTHING to do with freedom and/or independent thinkers...matter of fact, they'd like to exterminate us all!!

Happy Realizations!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 01:21 AM

Matter of fact, Cappy Jack, the way you've been trying to keep people to post within the rules, you'd be a better moderator!...at least you're not THAT tainted with ideology!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 03:22 AM

That IP address has never ever been used by me, in 9196 posts
How do you know that address?
Is it true you use several?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 04:44 AM

The ghost of Goofus past....

I suppose you would have to be a ghost in order to carry out magic, such as curing gayness. (One of his less salubrious claims.)

On that bombshell, and keeping on track of the thread, (superstition verses rationality,) I notice one of the catholic priests that has just been promoted to Cardinal, (a Spanish bloke,) has just a given a speech saying homosexuality is a disease and we should look for a cure.

Nice.

Reminds me of a the one about a bloke who got brave in the pub and went up to a lady and said "I fancy you." She said, "You are wasting your time, I'm a lesbian." Oh, he said, what does that mean? (As opposed to "What part of lesbia do you come from?") "Look," she said. "See that lass over there? I'd love to go over and suck on her breasts." "Oh Jesus!" He said. "I reckon I'm a lesbian too!"

The moral being, there is no disease, just perspective.....


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 04:52 AM

I must be an anorexic lesbian then. I fancy women and every time I look in a mirror I see a fat bloke.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 06:07 AM

There comes a point in every long thread where controversy gives say to repetition gives way to ennui gives way to acute boredom gives way to just not worth even opening any more.

I hereby bow formally out of this thread,

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 06:16 AM

Tatty bye me old duck.

If you get bored, Sainsburys have an offer on.....





Christ on a bike. What if everybody posted to say they weren't posting?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 07:44 AM

Another one joins the big baby wizzjet and the other no mark frauds...well no loss there, says I.

Well, sweet cheeks xxxxxxxx, this o'l gal wont be going anywhere..to much fun to be had hear..

Muskett sweety,as long as
you are dropping your pearls of wisdom I will hang around,

Poor old barnacle balls. he is a right Billy no mates aint he?

I do love it when self righteous prigs like jerk get shot with their own gun, don't thee?

If nothing else the thread needs people like me and sweet cheeks to keep a nice objective balance to the job.

If course, my job is the easiest

..exposing the arch toadying sneak and nautical fraud, Roger the cabin boy.....keep it up jerk..you are so out of our league it is laughable.

A few crayons are winging their way to you as we speak..


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 12:09 PM

I'm with MtheGM. This thread has become extremely boring. Bye bye, you bunch of ridiculous, obsessive, petulant, self-indulgent tossers!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Musket
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 12:20 PM

Ta ta.

Try not to start any threads personifying atheism for now eh? They only get the lampooning they deserve. Some of us go along with the lampooning and reverse adulation for a laugh.

Right with you wonderfulwobblybits xxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Musket
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 12:30 PM

Am I confusing Shimrod with stringsinger?

Oh.

Which do I apologise to?

There again, apologising to anyone for any reason just encourages my entourage of idiots.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,concerened
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 06:38 PM

Another no hoper has kicked the slats out of his playpen..I suppose it is to much to ask that the nautical sneak and fraud has also left town?


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jan 14 - 09:47 PM

Use your phone, use the next door neighbor's connection, go to the library, do what you can to connect, Gust, I'm sure you've figured out the angles. There were miles of posts all from you on that IP address. So get a grip. You got bonked once and the message was clear. It's as easy to block several as one, but the point is, we shouldn't have to. Behave yourself. Stop stalking people. It's easier just to delete you, when it comes down to it.

The point of this thread has probably long since been lost, so if it gets too gnarly it'll probably get closed. I can't say by who, many people are tired of the back-biting that goes on in these long BS threads.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 10:45 AM

"The Ghost of Christmas Past
(And NO, I'm not GfS)"

CORRECT! With that guest tag on the front both you and Goofus are nobodies!

As am I!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 10:53 AM

Goofass, grow a pair and own up to it.


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 11:01 AM

"If God is Love,(and a lot more to those properties than just a 'feeling'), telling lies, making up stuff, being malicious is not out of bounds for Atheists...they don't care, and have no conscience of accountability...it's all about agenda, not honoring any set of higher values.
Bitch all you want, but it's true..and this thread is a perfect example."

My, doesn't get snarky when caught with its fingers in the cookie jar?

Incoherent too. Just look at the absolute bull pucky poated above. According to this refugee from the local funny farm, his choice of imaginary friend is the source of all the virtues, and without it everything goes to hell in a handcart.

His pretence of innocence not only includes a denial of his use of several IP addresses, but also his denial of authorship of posts which definitely came from his home PC.

Goofus, TELL IT TO THE MARINES!


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Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 12:47 PM

This is what the thread is about:

One of the reasons that atheism has become strident in recent times is that today there are people who are religious bullies that show no tolerance for an atheist point of view. The evidence for this is the insulting idea that atheism or what I would prefer to call it, non-belief or FreeThought is uniform and somehow has a bible or doctrine. This attitude has no respect for non-belief and as a result deserves no respect in turn for those ideas that promulgate such bigoted opinions.


We can get along if an honest respect is shown for differing points of view without an attempt to mind-rape non-believers into forcing them into some kind of religion which not only doesn't make sense but insults their intelligence.

Ideas, religious or political need to be expressed in a rational non-rage-aholic way and condemnations by inflammatory threads to attack non-believers serves to shut down legitimate discourse.

Mudcat is not a religious or atheistic forum but a genuine attempt to share honest ideas even if we all don't agree.

Thanks, Joe, for offering a forum for honest opinions in an environment today where people in power attempt to suppress ideas that they don't like.


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