BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term

Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Stringsinger
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 03:25 PM

I started this thread because there is a couple of religious people here who subtly trash non-believers. The thread that started this series was one that implied that so-called "militant atheism" is a religion. This is nonsense.

I agree wholeheartedly with what Stilly River Sage has to say.


"Is it fair to say that you start threads like this to trash non-believers. Or would you rather just admit that your statement is in error?"

This is pure sophistry. It's an attempt to belittle my defense against religious bullying and bigotry by twisting words.

"Are you aware that the constitution only protects people from government interference in their speech? It would be a good thing for you to keep in mind."

The Constitution protects people from unwarranted religious intrusion into their lives by prohibiting it as a litmus test for public office.



"The vitriol on this forum about religion on this forum comes overwhelmingly from a few people who are not religious and there is no lack of uncivilized talk on each and all of the topics you mentioned."

This is not true. There's plenty of religious bullying and vitriol to go around.

"On the topic of religion I don't see much civilized discussion on your part. You tend to lecture, "discussion" implies balanced communication."

On the contrary, the authoritarian pronouncements are not coming from me. I see no balanced communication coming on this topic with such nonsense as "militant atheism is a religion". That's not balanced, that's absurd.

>>I still maintain that there is a large percentage of religious people who take it upon themselves to deride or degrade non-belief because of their indoctrination.<<

"No one has argued that. Though I might ask you to put some numbers behind "large percentage."

The bulk of religious folk overwhelmingly denigrate non-believers and many of them are in government. They do so by implication if not violent reactions of a physical nature. The numbers are staggering, beyond an ability to tally them.

The prejudice against same-sex marriage is a case in point. Here's an article that defines the role of religion today on the subject of marriage.

Christian hypocrisy

"It has been argued that there are a few very vocal non-believers who take it upon themselves to deride or degrade belief because of their indoctrination or lack of it."

That percentage compared to those who deride non-belief is small. I would say that
belief systems need to be challenged if they defy logic just as Democratic Party members can challenge Republican Party members on the basis of their respective ideologies.

Name-calling such as referring to "militant atheism" is an attempt to belittle non-belief.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 04:05 PM

No Stilly,

That is not what this thread is about. This thread is about a few bickering mudcatters continuing their personal bickering on yet another thread.

The topic stopped being "Militant Atheism" about that four threads ago. Please tell me why stringsinger is the only person who is allowed to restate his position in one thread as an opening post in another. Once he was allowed to do it only changing one letter in the title.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 04:21 PM

Troubadour: "If God is Love,(and a lot more to those properties than just a 'feeling'), telling lies, making up stuff, being malicious is not out of bounds for Atheists...they don't care, and have no conscience of accountability...it's all about agenda, not honoring any set of higher values.
Bitch all you want, but it's true..and this thread is a perfect example."

Thanks Troubadour for posting that....It was another post that SRS deleted because she has a history of deleting posts that don't suck up to her personal 'ideology'...and this latest stunt of hers is just another way she uses to place politics over reality! ....

...then she has the audacity to post this!!: "Thanks, Joe, for offering a forum for honest opinions in an environment today where people in power attempt to suppress ideas that they don't like."

What a hypocrite!!!!!

GfS

P.S. Think this post will last long?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 04:46 PM

She was quoting Strinsinger. I think your post will last. It shows that you are not paying attention.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 05:31 PM

Jack,
   I saw that it was a quote....nonetheless, when different points of view are expressed, even not the ones that 'follow set ideologies', we as writers need that input in addressing topics that have national, and even international interest. To quash such discussions do not serve us musicians, AT ALL...
Stringsinger and I have had some differences in the past, but at least, they were/are honest differences...AND the main thing is, it causes us to think..beyond the typical 'talking point' crap that is being fed to us from the political parties, who meter and control the whole of the national dialogue!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 08:33 PM

Subject: RE: BS: 'Militant Atheism' is a propaganda term
From: Jack the Sailor - PM
Date: 23 Jan 14 - 04:05 PM

No Stilly,

That is not what this thread is about. This thread is about a few bickering mudcatters continuing their personal bickering on yet another thread.

The topic stopped being "Militant Atheism" about that four threads ago. . .

So, this thread is finished.