BS: George Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 11:40 AM

Perhaps if you took the trouble to actually read the post I complained of?

I know that isn't usually part of your method of discussion.

Please don't bother with supplying a translation. Goofus' posts, when they are comprehensible, tend toward the terminally boring, being mostly repetitions of what he said yesterday,....and the day before,.....and on and on.........

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 11:52 AM

""Nor did the judge admit phone and text evidence that showed Martin had tried to sell an illegal firearm, school evidence that he was once suspended for having unexplained women's gold jewelry in his bookbag, or that he'd texted a friend that a recent fight had been no fun because "the dude didn't bleed enough for me.""

The judge did allow evidence of Martin's use of marijuana, but not of Zimmerman's domestic and the fact that he had used this self defence thing before in similsr circumstances when faced with prosecution.

Either both should have been allowed, or neither.

Eight of Zimmerman's friends were allowed to state that the voice calling for help was Zimmerman's.

Although Martin's parents did testify, two professional voice recognition experts who gave their opinion that the voice belonged to the younger man, were not allowed to do so.

You see that as perfect balance. I see it as a black and white example of discrimination.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 12:13 PM

"Eight of Zimmerman's friends were allowed to state that the voice calling for help was Zimmerman's."

And how many did the prosecution call? Mother, half-brother



Eight TOTAL testified to it being Zimmerman screaming- and the defense also called Martin's father.
( Zimmerman's mother, father, uncle, and 5 friends or co-workers)

http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/06/25/george-zimmerman-trial-witnesses



And the reason the " two professional voice recognition experts who gave their opinion that the voice belonged to the younger man, were not allowed to do so.":

Prosecution Witness No. 23: Dr. Hirotaka Nakasone -- A senior voice recognition expert with the FBI. He received multiple voice samples in this case to analyze. One of the samples was the 911 call from the night of the shooting that has screams in the background.


Who stated that the FBI standards required a longer period of recording to be valid. NOTE this was a prosecution witness.





Prosecution called 38 witnesses total,, Defense called 18 total.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 12:24 PM

And again, BeardedBullshit - more horseshit. At least you're consistent.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 01:11 PM

National columnist, Leonard Pitts, who is a rather moderate black writer, has an interesting op-ed in today's :Charlotte Observer" entitled "I am - and we are - Trayvon Martin" which is well worth a read...

Of course, the folks here who most need to read it won't read it because it doesn't jive with the BS narrative that the NRA/KKK has stuffed into their defective brains...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 02:22 PM

As are you, greggie boy. Consistent as any KKK member, or Nazi.

So, facts are shit to you? No wonder- you represent the "best" that "Liberal Mudcat" has to offer, it seems.


Facts are all shit.

Personel attack are fine against any minority here.

Any lies are acceptable to support the "liberal" view.

Nothing is acceptable that does not meet your pre-concieved standards of "validity- ie, that does not agree with your narrow, bigoted viewpoint.

Any rule can be used against people who disagree with you, even if you do not accept that rule being applied to you.

Anything that supports you has to be accepted without any reference or support:
Anything you disagree with can be denigrated even when reference and supporting proof is provided.





What a bunch of bigoted, hypocritical, lying pieces of shit.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 02:40 PM

http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/should-the-justice-department-pursue-a-civil-rights-case-against-george-zimmerman/a-civil-righ


ustice Department lawyers should not attempt to prosecute George Zimmerman for the death of Trayvon Martin.They likely won't succeed, and would probably compound the awful precedent set by the state of Florida in pursuing this case over objections from the lead criminal investigator, police chief and the community's prosecutor. These missteps were followed with a decision to bypass a grand jury.

All the safeguards protecting Americans from political or unwarranted prosecution were missing, allowing this train-wreck of a case to proceed. If the feds follow suit, they will head down the same path of an unjustified prosecution – re-establishing, nationally, a practice not seen since Woodrow Wilson pursued his political goals through abusing federal prosecutorial authority. Wilson's use of the Espionage and Sedition Acts to arrest and silence critics as well as the media rolled back the clock on constitutional rights.

Like Wilson era abuses, today's Justice Department must distort the meaning of hate crime statutes to charge Zimmerman. First, prosecutors lack a definitive finding that Zimmerman is, in fact, a racist. After interviewing 35 people – including co-workers, neighbors and even an ex-girlfriend – an FBI investigation failed to find proof that Zimmerman's actions were racially motivated on the night Martin died.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 02:41 PM

Jim Crow created a caste system in America that lasted for generations. In 2003, power-driven, pandering politicians want to make sure it remains in place. As long as blacks refuse to hold themselves accountable for failure and continue to perceive themselves as victims entitled to special categories, black liberal politicians will always have a constituency keeping them in office... and we will forever remain "in our place."


http://www.project21.org/P21NVBarberFlorida903.html

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 02:55 PM

Pitts, the one who wrote:

"It seems that in January, a young white couple, Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom, were victims of a brutal crime. They were carjacked, kidnapped and raped. Cleaning fluid was sprayed into Christian's mouth. She was stuffed in a trash can and apparently suffocated. Newsom was shot and set afire. His body was dumped. Five blacks, one a woman, have been arrested.

The story made headlines around Knoxville. It was unnoticed nationally.

That has changed. A constellation of white supremacists and conservative bloggers has pushed the story into the national limelight as illustration of their argument that news media, constrained by political correctness, refuse to report black on white crime while pulling out all the stops when crime is white on black as in the Duke lacrosse debacle. Me, I would see their Duke case and raise them a Central Park jogger, but what do I know?

Anyway, bloggers like Michael Oliver have chastised the "liberal, biased, Mainstream Media" for missing the Knoxville story. He asked, "Had the roles been reversed, would the media ignore such a horrific crime?"

Truth is, media ignore horrific crimes all the time. Space is limited and growing more so. Which means the story that catches fire usually has some element beyond gruesomeness to sell it. In the Duke case, it was class, privilege, sex and race that did it.

Not that I expect Oliver or any other "oppressed" white person to pay attention to something so trivial as fact. They're too busy demanding that this case be tried as a hate crime — even though police say there's no evidence the couple was targeted for any other reason than that they were there. And last weekend, white supremacists held — I kid you not — a "rally against genocide" in Knoxville."






even though police say there's no evidence the couple was targeted for any other reason than that they were there.

Just as in the Zimmerman case.......

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 03:39 PM

So, facts are shit to you?

No, BullshitBruce, SHIT is shit to me. Please get the help you so desperately need.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 03:47 PM

The only minority on the all-female jury that voted to acquit George Zimmerman said today that Zimmerman "got away with murder" for killing Trayvon Martin and feels she owes an apology Martin's parents.
"You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," said the woman who was identified only as Juror B29 during the trial. "But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."
She said the jury was following Florida law and the evidence, she said, did not prove murder.

The court had sealed the jurors' identities during the trial and still hasn't lifted the order, but Juror B29 edged out of the shadows in an exclusive interview with "Good Morning America" anchor Robin Roberts. She allowed her face to be shown, but -- concerned for her safety -- used only a first name of Maddy.
The nursing assistant and mother of eight children was selected as a juror five months after she had moved to Seminole County, Fla., from Chicago.
All six of the jurors were women and Maddy, 36, who is Puerto Rican, was the only minority to deliberate in the racially charged case. Zimmerman, 29, was a white Hispanic and Martin, 17, was black.

Despite the prosecution's claim the Zimmerman profiled Martin because he was black, Maddy said the case was never about race to her, although she didn't want to speak for her fellow jurors.
But her feelings about Zimmerman's actions are clear.
"George Zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with," Maddy said. "[But] the law couldn't prove it."
See reaction to the George Zimmerman Verdict
When the jury of six women—five of them mothers—began deliberations, Maddy said she favored convicting Zimmerman of second degree murder, which could have put him in prison for the rest of his life. The jury was also allowed to consider manslaughter, a lesser charge.
"I was the juror that was going to give them the hung jury. I fought to the end," she said.
However, on the second day of deliberations, after spending nine hours discussing the evidence, Maddy said she realized there wasn't enough proof to convict Zimmerman of murder or manslaughter under Florida law.
Zimmerman concedes he shot and killed Martin in Sanford on Feb. 26, 2012, but maintains he fired in self-defense.
"That's where I felt confused, where if a person kills someone, then you get charged for it," Maddy said. "But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty."
When asked by Roberts whether the case should have gone to trial, Maddy said, "I don't think so."
"I felt like this was a publicity stunt. This whole court service thing to me was publicity," she said.
As a mother, Maddy said she has had trouble adjusting to life after the verdict, and has wrestled with whether she made the right decision.
"I felt like I let a lot of people down, and I'm thinking to myself, 'Did I go the right way? Did I go the wrong way?'" she said.
"As much as we were trying to find this man guilty…they give you a booklet that basically tells you the truth, and the truth is that there was nothing that we could do about it," she said. "I feel the verdict was already told."
Maddy said she has sympathy for Martin's parents and believes she, too, would continue the crusade for justice if this had happened to her son.
She said she believes she owes Trayvon Martin's parents an apology because she feels "like I let them down."
"It's hard for me to sleep, it's hard for me to eat because I feel I was forcefully included in Trayvon Martin's death. And as I carry him on my back, I'm hurting as much [as] Trayvon's Martin's mother because there's no way that any mother should feel that pain," she said.
Maddy is the second juror to speak in a televised interview, and the first to show her face.
Juror B37, whose face and body were hidden, appeared last week on Anderson Cooper's CNN show, and said that she believes Zimmerman's "heart was in the right place" when he became suspicious of Martin and that the teenager probably threw the first punch.
Since then, four other jurors distanced themselves from B37's remarks and released a statement saying B37's opinions were "not in any way representative" of their own.



http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-juror-says-got-away-murder-180513862--abc-news-topstories.html

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 03:51 PM

The only SHIT around here is you, greggie boy.

I present facts, and support them.

YOU present attacks and insults, with no basis but animosity- the HATE that Bobert sees everywhere but in his own postings.

If I were Bobert I would be ashamed to even have you pretending to agree with me.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Lighter
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 04:10 PM

Obviously her personal definition of murder is different from the law's, and she honorably chose to uphold the law.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Lighter
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 05:38 PM

While respecting the evidence.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Elmore
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 05:41 PM

On the other hand, juror B29 says Georgie got away with murder.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 07:58 PM

Zimmerman very much got away with murder...

He disobeyed the police dispatcher in getting out of his vehicle and stalking Trayvon Martin with a gun... And he shot and killed Trayvon Martin...

The MudKKK doesn't give a flying fuck about the basic case... They just want their white boy to get off and don't give rat's ass about "nutha nigga" dead and gone...

These people here who defend Zimmerman are no better than the folks who used to lynch "nutha niggas"...

They are KKK thru and thru... No KKK-lite here... Grand wizard level KKK...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Elmore
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 08:45 PM

Juror B29 says "It's hard for me to eat,It's hard for me to sleep, because I feel like I was forcefully included in Trayvon Martin's death". (Washington Post) RIP Trayvon.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 09:00 PM

Yes, this is they way it used to work, Elmore... The lynching would occur and then if charges were brought the same thing happened... This kind of Southern justice has been around a long time...

I've written about the murders of 5 black non-violent civil rights demonstrators in Greensboro, North Carolina... The KKK gunned them down from their pickup tucks along the march route... This was a legal demonstration... The gunning down happened in plain daylight...

No charges... This wasn't 1959... This wasn't 1969... This was 1979!!!

No arrests... No nothing...

This is the South, ya'll and it hasn't come that far in the last 150 years...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Elmore
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 09:39 PM

Bobert, You talk about lynching in a knowledgeable,reality based way, whereas BB continually uses the term, "lynching" metaphorically which tends to piss me off. Goodnight, Elmore

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 09:40 PM

I didn't realize there were so many drama queens on the Mudcat. Mainly I thought it was a lot of Brits who want to take back the U.S. as their colony and a lot of kind, well-meaning old farts whose idea of 'spicy' food is a saltine cracker. Granted, the nostalgia for the 1960s, too, has always been there—"simpler times," as they say, and presumably the time when a lot of the old farts found their purpose in life. What I didn't know was that there were some real bat-shit locos.

I warned you before about what happens when you gratuitously use the word "KKK" (and the same goes for "Nazi," only with a German accent): Some sweet, adorable puppy, who has had barely enough time to splash in rain puddles or feel the tickle of grass on its face, dies....somewhere...each time. Can you live with that on your conscience?

Fucking puppy-killers...



Oh, also— besides the dead pups, the other thing that happens when you use those phrases/concepts is that you lose an amount of credibility as someone who can hold a rational discussion.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 09:53 PM

Beardedbruce: "So, facts are shit to you? No wonder- you represent the "best" that "Liberal Mudcat" has to offer, it seems.
Facts are all shit.
Personal attack are fine against any minority here.
Any lies are acceptable to support the "liberal" view."

Yes, Bruce...they whine like babies whose thumb has been pulled out of their mouths.....they call 'you' names, and spit anger...but will NOT address the FACT, that they think they need to be sucking their thumbs.

Don T is still pretending he can't understand my posts...oh, he understands them, but nothing can compare with that thumb....even if it isn't really 'nourishing'....it just 'feels' better...as long as they are content, and spouting 'concern' over something that they are too self absorbed, to actually go out, and 'take one under their wing', so to speak, and give them the time of day, to meet THEIR(others) needs.

Reminds me of this..You remember..Biff writes for this guy.. , maybe even this one.....


..and this..being as I've been known for pointing out hypocrisy..both sides!

Some how, they both work together.

GfD

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 08:29 AM

There's nothing to understanding your posts, GfinS...

You hate Obama, you talk 2000 Nader but your politics are 100% Tea Party...

How difficult is it to figure that out???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 08:39 AM

Bobert,

The only one here ( besides Greggie, your pet racist scumbag) who is pushing hate is you.

What was it you did as a young man that makes you so eager to prove you are "better" than everyone else? When did God die, and leave you in charge?

I disagree with you: that no more makes me a KKKr than your lies about Israel make you a Nazi.

You keep spreading hate like you do, and the threefold rule will return it to you...

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 08:54 AM

""I was the juror that was going to give them the hung jury. I fought to the end," she said.
However, on the second day of deliberations, after spending nine hours discussing the evidence, Maddy said she realized there wasn't enough proof to convict Zimmerman of murder or manslaughter under Florida law.

Zimmerman concedes he shot and killed Martin in Sanford on Feb. 26, 2012, but maintains he fired in self-defense.
"That's where I felt confused, where if a person kills someone, then you get charged for it," Maddy said. "But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty."

When asked by Roberts whether the case should have gone to trial, Maddy said, "I don't think so."
"I felt like this was a publicity stunt. This whole court service thing to me was publicity," she said."

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 09:27 AM

""As much as we were trying to find this man guilty…they give you a booklet that basically tells you the truth, and the truth is that there was nothing that we could do about it," she said. "I feel the verdict was already told.""

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 09:49 AM

Bobert: "You hate Obama, you talk 2000 Nader but your politics are 100% Tea Party..."

Your back to the Tea Party stuff, again??? ..and I 'hate' Obama???

Whatever you say..(rolls eyes. thrusts hands my pockets, and walks away in disgust...), mutters, "Jeez, either Bobert doesn't get it, or maybe he's retarded'"

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Elmore
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 09:54 AM

"And as I carry him on my back,I'm hurting as much as Trayvon Martin's mother, because there's no way that any mother should feel that pain," she said. (Washington Post)

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:01 AM

Bobert: ""You hate Obama, you talk 2000 Nader......." "

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Elmore
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:05 AM

Maddy said she believed she owed Trayvon Martin's parents an apology because she felt "like I let them down." (Washington Post)

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:13 AM

"
When asked by Roberts whether the case should have gone to trial, Maddy said, "I don't think so."
"I felt like this was a publicity stunt. This whole court service thing to me was publicity," she said.""

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:14 AM

....but your politics are 100% Tea Party..."

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:15 AM

""That's where I felt confused, where if a person kills someone, then you get charged for it," Maddy said. "But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty.""

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:16 AM

"However, on the second day of deliberations, after spending nine hours discussing the evidence, Maddy said she realized there wasn't enough proof to convict Zimmerman of murder or manslaughter under Florida law."

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Elmore
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:21 AM

"George Zimmerman got away with murder" she said, "but you can't get away from God." (Huffington Post)

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:29 AM

And since Bobert thinks he is God, I guess his lynching of Zimmerman will be just fine and dandy.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:32 AM

""You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," said the woman who was identified only as Juror B29 during the trial. "But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."
She said the jury was following Florida law and the evidence, she said, did not prove murder."

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:47 AM

Despite what it was, it was a mistake to try Z for murder. At least one of the manslaughters would have given him jail time.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:55 AM

As I have pointed out, several times- and been called a racist KKKr by "SS Leader" Bobert for.



But then, he has always had a real problem with truth and facts.

He does not recognize them.

He does not bother to check if what he states is true.

He does not realize that to continue to state a falsehood after being informed, with references that it is false is a deliberate lie, and tells a lot more about him than any accusations he makes about others.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 11:30 AM

Zimmerman wouldn't have survived jail time... He'll be lucky if he survives at all... He is a marked man...

Of course he can always look to white supremacists to protect him but he may grow tired of having to spend his life surrounded redneck body guards...

Sorry, GfinS, but I didn't watch your YouTubes because right from the jump it it was obvious that whoever made them is another Obama hater just like you...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 11:31 AM

As I said, a real problem with truth and facts...

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 12:01 PM

Yeah, the videos point that out.
Bobert, you really ought to watch them..they present your arguments...to a Tea...or is that Tee?...or maybe just 'T'. You might look at what you've been saying, through a different perspective....I mean you might get a clue, as to how you are perceived.
might be helpful....and they are totally non-emotional!
....and 'spot on' as one poster commented.

Bobert: "Sorry, GfinS, but I didn't watch your YouTubes because right from the jump it it was obvious that whoever made them is another Obama hater just like you..."

How would you know????...if you didn't watch them????? Are you afraid your indoctrinations might be at risk???
Shit, I wouldn't worry about that....they are only indoctrinations, it's not like someone is trying to deprive you of 'life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness!'

GfS

P.S. ..and by Pete's sakes DON'T learn anything...that way you have more to share!....or something like that!

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 12:50 PM

I just searched again and I cannot fine the trial transcript. Can one of you please provide a link to the trial transcript on accounta I really wanna read it. Thanks in advance.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 12:57 PM

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ijvm.html


In multiple parts, you have to find them...



But then, just ask Bobert- HE was there at the killing, and knows better than any witnesses what happened. After all, he knows what HE wuld have done, so that makes Zimerman guilty.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 01:17 PM

I opened the links up, GfinS, and saw enough to know that they were just more - yawn - Obama bashing...

As for learning stuff... There are better ways to learn stuff than watching cartoons and/or reading right wing blogs...

I read the "Charlotte Observer" every morning and then go to the WaPo and read lots of the articles and op-eds... Yes, I even read the righties there... I wrestle around with Chuckie K and Jennifer Rubin quite a bit in the discussions... I even wrestler around with Eugene Robinson on occasion...

So not to worry... I am very well informed of what is going on out there in the real world without the cartoons and cartoonish right winged bloggers...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 01:20 PM

"I am very well informed of what is going on out there in the real world "


Your posts show nothing of that, Bobert.

Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension....

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 01:33 PM

beardedbruce... nope. Those are not even close to portions of the trial transcript. There are NONE at that link. ZERO. NADA. Next time, read before you waste my time.

Please PM me if you find the trial transcript, anyone. I am anxious to read it. I find the conjecture in media and even in Mudcat, especially conjecture which is blatantly in error given only what evidence is publically avaiable, disturbing at best. Such crap does not serve either Zimmerman or Martin... or anyone else. And, it abases justice.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 01:53 PM

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1307/02/ijvm.01.html


Didn't mean to waste your time. That site contains partial transcripts as above...



http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130715154757AA8x0ZS


How much are you willing to pay?

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 02:02 PM

bb... knock that shit off. No more a transcript to be had than the asswipe on the roll in the Mudcat outhouse. I will not open any more of your links so don't bother.

gnightgnu

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 02:13 PM

So go pay for it...




http://crimeandcourtsnews.blogspot.com/p/watch-george-zimmerman-trial-full.html#.UfK5rhZ1CS0


supposedly gives the videos.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 02:14 PM

1400