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BS: George Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'

bobad 28 Aug 13 - 05:29 PM
GUEST,Lighter 28 Aug 13 - 05:47 PM
Don Firth 28 Aug 13 - 07:53 PM
Bobert 28 Aug 13 - 07:53 PM
Greg F. 28 Aug 13 - 09:07 PM
Bobert 28 Aug 13 - 09:31 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 28 Aug 13 - 10:19 PM
Don Firth 28 Aug 13 - 11:08 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 29 Aug 13 - 02:35 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: bobad
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 05:29 PM

And in related news:

"Shellie Zimmerman — wife of George Zimmerman, the Florida man who was acquitted of murder charges in the shooting death of teenager Trayvon Martin — pleaded guilty to charges of perjury Wednesday for misleading a judge about the state of her family's finances. According to CNN, Shellie Zimmerman was sentenced to one year of probation, 100 hours of community service and ordered to write a letter of apology to Judge Kenneth Lester within 30 days and reimburse the court for legal costs.

She pleaded guilty to lying to Judge Lester in an April 2012 bond hearing in which she alleged that her family was indigent. In fact, the Zimmermans had more than $135,000 in donated defense fund money sitting in the bank at the time.

In pleading guilty to perjury rather than going to trial on the original third-degree felony charge of perjury in an official proceeding, Mrs. Zimmerman avoided much higher fines and possible prison time.

George Zimmerman was found not guilty by a six-member jury in July. His attorneys filed a reimbursement request with the state of Florida on Tuesday asking that the court costs of George Zimmerman's defense be partially covered by the state. The suit will ask for between $200,000 and $300,000 in fees."

Raw Story


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 05:47 PM

They can ask for whatever they want, but they won't get it.

Those on CNN familiar with Florida law say that all the law will cover will be "out-of-pocket fees," not attorneys' fees, which make up the lion's share of Zimmerman's expenses. Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Mark Nejame estimates that if Zimmerman's lawyers file for $200,000, the court will likely award him $10,000 - $20,000.

Filing for every imaginable reimbursement appears to be a standard legal move in Florida for an acquitted criminal defendant. Those seeking outrage should, once again, look elsewhere.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 07:53 PM

George Zimmerman just went shopping for one of THESE. (Scroll down a bit.)

Now, he can REALLY go hunting!

Don Firth

P. S. I don't know how long that web site will be there, but if it goes away soon, THIS is the sort of little toy he was interested in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 07:53 PM

What is the cost of injustice???

A lot more than we think...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 09:07 PM

Yo, Bullshit Bruce-

Thanks for the barge-load of horseshit, but you STILL haven't provided any evidence to support your claim:

"to physically attack someone for inquiring as to what he was doing there."


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 09:31 PM

This isn't all that complicated...

An adult white man with a gun stalked and murdered an unarmed teenager walking home from a convenience store...

This adult white man is a confessed liar... Liars lie and lie and lie... That is this adult white male...

The Florida justice ain't got much justice in it so they let the adult white armed lyin' ass cracker off...

The End

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 10:19 PM

....the Martin family publicly stated that THEY didn't think it was about race. ..The Martin's personal attorney said THEY didn't think it was about race...the defense attorneys (separately from the personal family attorney) publicly stated that THEY didn't think it was about race...the prosecution publicly stated that THEY didn't think it was about race, the police publicly stated that THEY didn't think it was about race, the court's testimony showed that THEY didn't think it was a race issue, the jury members who gave interviews, publicly stated that THEY didn't think it was about race...the FBI investigated Zimmerman AND 36 of his known acquaintances and they publicly stated that THEY didn't think it was about race, nor did any evidence come up to indicate that Zimmerman had racial bigotry, in fact, they found he worked with 'minority' kids, prior to this.....

That being said, AGAIN, Today I heard Rev. Bernice King, Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s daughter give a speech, where she said 'replace hate with love'.
Anybody listening?......or are you being a little too racist?

....and let's not start with a racist bias, one way or the other, and cherry pick what you WANT to believe, to support that bias...people get hurt or dead...ask Rachel Jeantel, who advised Trayvon, that the guy following him was probably a homosexual rapist.
As far as the information that led people to get all 'excited' that this was just about race, you might consider this and why some of you are determined that this was all about race.
And consider this:
March 13, 2012 - Sanford Police Department's homicide detective Christopher Serino recommends Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter.
IF THAT HAD HAPPENED, Zimmerman more than likely would have been convicted. ...and I've said repeatedly, that the prosecution bungled this case....


That being said, AGAIN, Today I heard Rev. Bernice King, Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s daughter give a speech, where she said 'replace hate with love'.
Anybody listening?......or are you being a little too racist?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Aug 13 - 11:08 PM

Load of dingoes kidneys.

Trayvon Martin's mother said that race DID play a part in it, but they weren't going to try to make an issue of it. Undoubtedly because it would probably stir up all manner of racial unrest.

Anyone who seriously believes that Zimmerman was NOT racially profiling Trayvon Martin is not playing with a full deck.

And who, pray tell, is the racist here?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 02:35 AM

Show it...and not from a blog.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 08:45 AM

""Zimmerman THOUGHT that he was acting suspiciously ( as he stated on the 911 call, a FACT you ignore) and wanted to see what he was up to, like a NEIGHBORHOOD WATVH person should do WHEN THEY SEE SOMEONE ACTING SUSPICIOUSLY.""

I've seen quite a lot of that kind of suspicion in my time BB!

"What's that black kid doing in my neighbourhood, he must be up to no good!"

And it would never occur to him that the kid was taking sideways glances because he was wondering "who was following him and why?"

Zimmerman would have taken no notice whatever of a white kid.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 08:50 AM

Here's what makes this entire issue so sickening...

The Zimmerman worshipers here and elsewhere have never voiced any remorse for the death of Trayvon Martin...

That says more about their humanity, or lack there of... Pretty heartless...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 12:19 PM

Goofball, I don't get my information from blogs, like you do.

I get my information from several varied news sources, examining all viewpoints, endeavoring to find out what really happened--not, as you do, to find back-up for anybody's prejudices, especially whatever my own my happen to be.

I was a news editor, remember? I know how to suss out the facts from various reports.

You should really try to stop your knee from jerking like that.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 12:51 PM

A CNN interview with Trayvon Martin's parents HERE. You'll have to sit through a commercial, though.

Most interesting!

Hang in. There is also a video of Zimmerman's arrival at the police station, in which there are no visible signs of injury.

Early on, I recall seeing several pictures of Zimmerman's "injuries." The cut on the back of his head appeared in different places in the different photos, and the amount of blood varied from a trickle to a flood.

Lousy Photoshopping job.

And also early on, no sign of a broken nose. Maybe Zimmerman ran into a door?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Suzy Sock Puppet
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 04:48 PM

In honor of Greg F., I feel I should say this:

Bullshit Bruce,

You are so full of bullshit. Eat fucking shit and die.

                                 Yours Truly,

                                          Greg F.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Suzy Sock Puppet
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 04:54 PM

And, after 1,615 posts, somebody ought to tell you to go fuck yourselves...

Go fuck yourselves!




                                       Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Aug 13 - 07:35 PM

One would think that a right wing non-musican coming to a folk musicians web site would just stick with other topics other than pushing his right winged, ignorant mythology...

Go figure???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 03:21 AM

Then stop doing it.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 05:24 AM

From day one the Sanford authorities portrayed Zimmerman as the victim and Martin as a thug, and that didn't change at the trial.

Nobody in this whole sorry mess stood up for Trayvon Martin's constitutional right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness, but there are people all over the southern states celebrating the victory of Vigilante Law over US Law.

This video is worth a listen as it encapsulates everything I have been trying to put across in this thread.

The following article is also relevant to the way in which the authorities spat upon the corpse of a murdered teenager:

""Florida jurors heard that Trayvon Martin was aggressive and paranoid due to marijuana intoxication the night he was murdered. But was he?

Carl Hart, a neuropsychopharmacologist who spent fifteen years studying the neurophysiological, psychological and behavioral effects of marijuana, finds this line of reasoning "laughable" in The New York Times.

"The toxicology exam, which was conducted the morning after Mr. Martin was killed, found a mere 1.5 nanograms per milliliter of blood of tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in his body.

This strongly suggests he had not ingested marijuana for at least 24 hours. This is also far below the THC levels that I have found necessary, in my experimental research on dozens of subjects, to induce intoxication: between 40 and 400 nanograms per milliliter.

In fact, his THC levels were significantly lower than the sober, baseline levels of about 14 nanograms per milliliter of many of my patients, who are daily users.

Mr. Martin could not have been intoxicated with marijuana at the time of the shooting; the amount of THC found in his system was too low for it to have had any meaningful effect on him."   
""

This is indicative of the lengths Sanford law personnel were willing to go to, in order to paint Trayvon Martin as a drugged up thug and portray him as responsible for his own death.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 08:39 AM

The sad thing about this all, Don, is that there are still way too many white people who haven't come all that far from the days when black people were being lynched... Yeah, they always have their rationalizations just like we read here from the MudKKers who continue to defend their right to murder black people...

I've lived long enough to remember the Klan... I've known folks who were in the Klan... I've heard their rhetoric... I can smell Klan from a mile away...

This is what institutional racism looks like...

You won't change the minds and hearts of the two MudKKers here, Don... Their minds and hearts are too hardened...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 09:01 AM

Interesting... My above post was the 1619th post...

1619???

What's the relevance???

1619 was the year that the first African slaves were brought to the "New World"... For the next 244 years slavery was legal... After the Emancipation Proclamation black Americans suffered from 110 years of Jim Crow on crack cocaine and now seeing Jim Crow's revival with the Tea Party ascent...

1619 was a shameful year for our nation...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 01:22 PM

OK, Bobert, you just posted two sentences here, that seem to conflict with each other, so I will ask you, using your words, if you are failing to see something here, OK?

Bobert: "The sad thing about this all, Don, is that there are still way too many white people who haven't come all that far from the days when black people were being lynched... Yeah, they always have their rationalizations just like we read here from the MudKKers who continue to defend their right to murder black people...
...You won't change the minds and hearts of the two MudKKers here, Don... Their minds and hearts are too hardened..."

Their minds and hearts are too hardened????
Don't you think that is the PERCEPTION (on here)of minds and hearts that are too hardened??

There is no one one here that hates blacks, that I can see...only those whose minds and hearts are too hardened to see it.
Ever consider that??

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 02:18 PM

""There is no one one here that hates blacks, that I can see...only those whose minds and hearts are too hardened to see it.
Ever consider that??
""

Tell it to the bastards here who are celebrating the release of a man who is revelling in having got away with murder and buying more, and more powerful n***er killing weapons.

Not a word from them about the death of a black schoolboy. Not a scintilla of sympathy for him, or empathy for his family.

They'd have been yelling their heads off if Trayvon were white.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 02:44 PM

I agree, Don...

Neither GfinS nor bb have posted anything that shows any feeling of sadness for Trayvon Martin or his family...

Just cheering...

That, GfinS, is what I meant by hardened hearts...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 03:03 PM

Excellent link, Don T! Everyone should listen--all the way to the end--of what the commentator is saying. And if the commentator is a bit excited and angry, there is more than ample reason for it.

I agree 100%!

And here he is again, commenting on an interview (unbelievable!) with George Zimmerman's brother, Robert.

The anger you hear in the commentator's voice is righteous anger.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 03:08 PM

Sorry! Neglected to post the link for the above.

Here it is:   CLICKY.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 03:37 PM

The speakers at the Lincoln Memorial this past Wednesday were entirely correct... We have a lot of work to do... Jim Crow is sneaking back... Okay, in some areas there ain't no sneak to it... He's just barging in...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: bobad
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 07:26 PM

Here's an interesting little twist to the story. Was it brought up at the trial? Is it relevant?

"Shellie Zimmerman, wife of George Zimmerman, the Florida man who was found not guilty of second degree murder in the slaying of teenager Trayvon Martin, told ABC News that she does not know if she will stay married to her husband. In an interview with reporter Christi O'Connor, Shellie Zimmerman said that she will have to think carefully about whether she plans to stay married to George Zimmerman, and that she had walked out on him after a particularly nasty argument on the night before he shot Martin.

"I was staying at my father's house," Zimmerman said. "We had gotten into an argument the night before and I left."

On Wednesday, Shellie Zimmerman pleaded guilty to perjury in the same courtroom where her husband was acquitted of murder. Unlike her appearances at his trial, however, George Zimmerman was not in attendance, leaving her feeling "very much alone."

She declined to say whether or not her husband has a violent temper when O'Connor asked about the argument that caused her to walk out on him in 2012.

"Does George have a temper? How volatile did it get the evening before?" the reporter asked.

"Not going to answer that," Zimmerman replied."

The Raw Story


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 08:00 PM

The more times we review this story the worse it stinks...

And it stinks well beyond just this story... It stinks because ALEC and the NRA have pushed legalized murder onto the books oh way too many states where anyone can virtually shoot and kill anyone they want and get away with it... It stinks because the racism still permeating Southern states is as real today as ever...

But they say that all politics is local so...

...it stinks because there are people here at a folks musicains web site who are Zimmerman cheerleaders...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Suzy Sock Puppet
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 09:47 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 05:24 AM

From day one the Sanford authorities portrayed Zimmerman as the victim and Martin as a thug, and that didn't change at the trial.

Nobody in this whole sorry mess stood up for Trayvon Martin's constitutional right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness, but there are people all over the southern states celebrating the victory of Vigilante Law over US Law.

This video is worth a listen as it encapsulates everything I have been trying to put across in this thread.

The following article is also relevant to the way in which the authorities spat upon the corpse of a murdered teenager:

""Florida jurors heard that Trayvon Martin was aggressive and paranoid due to marijuana intoxication the night he was murdered. But was he?

Carl Hart, a neuropsychopharmacologist who spent fifteen years studying the neurophysiological, psychological and behavioral effects of marijuana, finds this line of reasoning "laughable" in The New York Times.

"The toxicology exam, which was conducted the morning after Mr. Martin was killed, found a mere 1.5 nanograms per milliliter of blood of tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in his body.

This strongly suggests he had not ingested marijuana for at least 24 hours. This is also far below the THC levels that I have found necessary, in my experimental research on dozens of subjects, to induce intoxication: between 40 and 400 nanograms per milliliter.

In fact, his THC levels were significantly lower than the sober, baseline levels of about 14 nanograms per milliliter of many of my patients, who are daily users.

Mr. Martin could not have been intoxicated with marijuana at the time of the shooting; the amount of THC found in his system was too low for it to have had any meaningful effect on him."   ""

This is indicative of the lengths Sanford law personnel were willing to go to, in order to paint Trayvon Martin as a drugged up thug and portray him as responsible for his own death.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Aug 13 - 09:56 PM

Don T. Hallelujah! Amen is one thing, Hallelujah is another...

Can I get a witness?


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Aug 13 - 02:59 AM

I can go along with that...matter of fact, if you scroll back, I've been saying that the whole mess was a series of 'misreading the moments, and making stupid mistakes...pot might no make you 'aggressive', but it CAN (and does) cause you to misread a moment, and act inappropriately..on his part, whereas Zimmerman was on a different trip, misreading Trayvon, and what he was doing. Rahel talking to Trayvon, on here cell, certainly misread the situation, and told Trayvon about Zimmerman probably being a homosexual rapist.
With that in your head, when you're stoned, sure could get you to misread, EASILY.

(Jeez,, I wonder if the D.A. was stoned too, when he charged him with murder, instead of manslaughter!!)

They should have built their case better, before arresting and chaging him....But NOOOOOOOOO-O-O.....pressure was being thown on them for the wannabe prove a point idiots!!!..maybe who had the same 'zeal' as some of you have expressed!!

Think about it.............

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 31 Aug 13 - 09:11 AM

"".pot might no make you 'aggressive', but it CAN (and does) cause you to misread a moment, and act inappropriately.""

DO try to keep up GfS!

""The toxicology exam, which was conducted the morning after Mr. Martin was killed, found a mere 1.5 nanograms per milliliter of blood of tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in his body.

This strongly suggests he had not ingested marijuana for at least 24 hours. This is also far below the THC levels that I have found necessary, in my experimental research on dozens of subjects, to induce intoxication: between 40 and 400 nanograms per milliliter..........Mr. Martin could not have been intoxicated with marijuana at the time of the shooting; the amount of THC found in his system was too low for it to have had any meaningful effect on him.
""

1.5 billionths of a gram of active principle = No drugged up aggression, no blurred perception and no drug induced misapprehension or inappropriate behaviour.

Less effect than a half pint of bitter shandy.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Aug 13 - 10:51 AM

GfinS doesn't actually read much of other folks posts, Don... Just scans them to see if he can find something to attack, regardless of that something's context...

I read Suzie's post and read it the same way as you... But here's the deal... It is not even relevant to the real story... It is a sidebar that has/had nothing to do with the murder...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Aug 13 - 10:56 AM

Don T: "Do try to keep up"....

Speaking of which the following was not a quote from my post....

Don T: """The toxicology exam, which was conducted the morning after Mr. Martin was killed, found a mere 1.5 nanograms per milliliter of blood of tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in his body.

This strongly suggests he had not ingested marijuana for at least 24 hours. This is also far below the THC levels that I have found necessary, in my experimental research on dozens of subjects, to induce intoxication: between 40 and 400 nanograms per milliliter..........Mr. Martin could not have been intoxicated with marijuana at the time of the shooting; the amount of THC found in his system was too low for it to have had any meaningful effect on him.""

Perhaps you were replying to someone else.
However the first part was...but not the majority part of your post was from me.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Suzy Sock Puppet
Date: 31 Aug 13 - 11:52 AM

You're damn right it's a sidebar. Let's talk about adderall. Might be a script but it's every bit the same as being hopped up on coke or meth.

I think GZ's wife will divorce him. She's realizing now that if her husband was anything more than a narcissistic asshole looking for trouble and attention (in that order), he would never have put her in the position that he did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 07:08 AM

""Perhaps you were replying to someone else.
However the first part was...but not the majority part of your post was from me.
""

The quote was an excerpt from what I had posted earlier and was intended to show you how far off the mark you were with your fatuous comment:
""I've been saying that the whole mess was a series of 'misreading the moments, and making stupid mistakes...pot might no make you 'aggressive', but it CAN (and does) cause you to misread a moment, and act inappropriately..""

NO POT = NO POT INDUCED MISREADING OF THE SITUATION!

Get it NOW??

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 07:23 AM

""But here's the deal... It is not even relevant to the real story... It is a sidebar that has/had nothing to do with the murder...""

I beg to differ Bobz, and the reason is in the first part of that article.

It says """"Florida jurors heard that Trayvon Martin was aggressive and paranoid due to marijuana intoxication the night he was murdered.""

If that LIE was presented to the jury as evidence, and was given a free pass by both prosecution and judge, skewing the view of the jury in Zimmerman's favour, it's the whole deal, supporting my firm conviction that nobody in that courtroom was trying to convict Zimmerman.

That's it,........in black and white, so to speak.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 10:12 AM

The meat and taters is as follows, Don:

1. Zimmerman sees black kid walking thru the neighborhood

2. Zimmerman call police

3. Police tell Zimmerman to stay in his car and that they will send real cops

4. Zimmerman disobeys police and gets out of his car with a 9mm

5. Zimmerman stalks Martin

6. Zimmerman shoots and kills Martin

The End

Anything else is just smoke and mirrors... We don't have capital punishment for pot smoking... The prosecutor and judge should not have allowed Martin's use of pot to be entered as evidence as it had nothing to do with this murder...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Suzy Sock Puppet
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 11:05 AM

Stand Your Ground was not supposed be part of the jury's decision either but the one juror admitted that it was.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 11:24 AM

Yup... The trial was as bad as the O.J. trial but I'd say the Marcia Clark did a better job than the Florida prosecutor/bozos...

I find it inhuman that here we are remembering Martin as a pot smoking aggressor when nothing could be further from the truth... It is a sham... It's like blaming the rape victim for looking good...

Disgusting trial and disgusting racism here and elsewhere with the racists blinded by their own racism... At least the Klan knew they were racists and proud of it... We now have grinnin' in your face racists who deny that they are racists while carrying out racist agendas...

Meet the new Klan...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 12:57 PM

With my experience (observation, not pot smoking myself), people high on marijuana are downright mellow. NOT the least bit aggressive.

I'd feel safer in the company of a bunch of pot-smokers than I would be around a bunch of boozers.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 01:04 PM

True.

Hey Don, you got one right!!

And Bobert is pissed at the 'Klan' because he went to one of their meetings, but he had to bring his sheet. (P-Vine wouldn't buy him a new one)...so he grabbed one off his bed....He showed up at the meeting, tried to put it on...but alas, it had a lot of 'stains' on it..AND, when he was trying to pot it one, over his head, and pulled it down to fit right, it cracked.
Needless to say, he never went back....they tore it of of him and made Tea out of it!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 01:07 PM

ooops, typos in the other one.....


True.

Hey Don, you got one right!!

And Bobert is pissed at the 'Klan' because he went to one of their meetings, but he had to bring his own sheet outfit. (P-Vine wouldn't buy him a new one)...so he grabbed one off his bed....He showed up at the meeting, tried to put it on...but alas, it had a lot of 'stains' on it..AND, when he was trying to put it one, over his head, and pulled it down to fit right, it cracked...broke in several places..
Needless to say, he never went back....they tore it of of him and made Tea out of it!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 01:18 PM

jeez.. still more typos....You'll just have to brush up on reading typonese.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 01:21 PM

Goofted One, Judging from the quality of the corrected text those weren't typos in the initial post, just plain stupidity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 01:49 PM

Oh, do you mean that if I typed it right the first time, you would have taken it seriously??

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 02:05 PM

No, I'm pissed because I barely escaped a rural Klan get together and might have been lynched had I not outrun them...

Plus I am pissed because here in 2013 we are seeing a resurgence of hate groups...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 02:08 PM

No.

Stupid is a condition that manifests itself in manifold ways.

As you so graphically demonstrate.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 02:22 PM

Well how else could you understand it, then?
You got too much stuff cluttering your brain to talk plainly!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 01 Sep 13 - 02:37 PM

Actually, Goofus, the spelling was the best part of your post(s). As good as any sign you'd see at a Tea Party rally.


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