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Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever

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Subject: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 May 13 - 04:37 AM

It's in the news - It must be true!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/welcome-margaritaville-most-lucrative-song-140701644.html

One of my favourites too. Even though I am English and know nothing of Mexican drinks. :-)

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 31 May 13 - 05:50 AM

I've never heard of it, has it been around as long as White Christmas ?

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: GUEST
Date: 31 May 13 - 06:40 AM

Never heard of White Christmas. Has it been around as long as Greensleeves?


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 31 May 13 - 07:04 AM

Same author I believe.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 31 May 13 - 07:09 AM

Don't know Greensleeves, has it been around as long as the Epitaph of Seikilos?


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 May 13 - 07:37 AM

Very likely true.    Jimmy Buffet has made his image, his career --and an industry--on that one song.   I've thought that for quite a while.

The Parrotheads are just the tip of the iceberg.



Even though we guys know it couldn't possibly be our fault--even for one verse.

I ain't no Parrothead, but I have to admit I like the song a lot--even enough to get annoyed when a radio station cuts out the middle bridge.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Elmore
Date: 31 May 13 - 09:36 AM

Not a Parrothead, but enjoyed the Jimmy Buffet experience the one time we saw him in concert.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: GUEST
Date: 31 May 13 - 09:51 AM

"Same author I believe."

My first explosive laugh in weeks. Many thanks, Dave.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Jeri
Date: 31 May 13 - 01:46 PM

My favorites: A Pirate Looks at 40
and
He Went to Paris

I like a lot of his music, but I wouldn't say I'm a parrot head. I've never been nuts about Margaritaville. It's OK, but it's mostly the name that's lucrative--not the song itself.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 May 13 - 01:54 PM

"not the song".   I'd differ on that.    It's the (mostly mythical) lifestyle he's selling--perfectly embodied by the song.

And there's a huge market for it.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Highlandman
Date: 31 May 13 - 01:57 PM

The article does make the distinction between the recording, which did OK peaking at Billboard #8, and the trademark, which encompasses the entire multi-hundred-million-a-year Buffett empire. It's the whole brand that's worth that much. Still, I'd settle for it.
-G


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 May 13 - 06:49 PM

But the point of the article is that the song was basically the inspiration for the entire empire.
And the article is correct.

He picked a winning horse--and he's still riding it.

His success is due primarily to having struck a chord with uncounted numbers of would-be Margaritaville denizens.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: LesB
Date: 31 May 13 - 06:59 PM

Never heard of the song or Jimmy Buffet?????
Cheers


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 May 13 - 07:13 PM

In the US it would hard to say that for Baby-Boomers.    And he's got quite a few from succeeding generations too---he's selling a really attractive dream.

But without the song, it's hard to imagine any of it.

He's not the first to try to sell the dream.    But he's scored far higher than anyone else.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Jeri
Date: 31 May 13 - 07:59 PM

You seriously can't find something better to pick a fight about? (Yeah, stupid question.)


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 May 13 - 08:07 PM

I don't see the lyrics of this 1977 megahit here at Mudcat, so I think they ought to be posted. Can't say I've ever liked the song, but it's a real earworm. Every time I hear of the song, it sticks in my head for a week, and I hate myself for having such drivel running through my head.

If you go to Key West, at the end of the Florida Keys (and you really should), you will be inundated with Jimmy Buffett and Margaritaville paraphernalia. I see in Wikipedia that Jimmy Buffett, born in Pascagoula, Mississippi, on Christmas Day in 1946, got his start busking in New Orleans. Jerry Jeff Walker took him to Key West on a busking expedition in November, 1971. Jimmy Buffett also apparently had some sort of connection to Jim Croce, which seems logical to me. Now, Key West may well be the most active busking location in the entire United States. Hordes of people go to the waterfront for sunset over the Gulf of Mexico, and there are all sorts of buskers there for the nightly celebration. I gather that Buffett has lived in Key West for most of the time since then. Buffett has kind of a "drunken beach bum" persona that really turns me off, but I get the impression that there's a person of substance lurking beneath that persona. His songs are certainly clever, and he seems like he might be a really good guy.

I think the song is an interesting commentary on the banality of the party life of people in places like Key West. I get the impression that Buffett doesn't really believe in this kind of life, but he's stuck in it - and a whole culture has been built on this banality. It could be interesting to study the parallels between Buffett and Hemingway and their life in Key West.

I swear that Key West is one of the most fascinating places in the United States. I drove to Key West and expected to spend one night there, at the "Southernmost Motel in the United States"; but the place was so interesting that I stayed there three days. I took a seaplane from Key West to Dry Tortugas National Park, and went snorkeling amidst the coral reefs (and saw TWO lighthouses and one barracuda who seemed a bit too interested in me). Since I was alone, I got to sit in the copilot's seat. That was wonderful, but the most interesting part of Key West was the nightly sunset ritual, when everyone in town went to the waterfront to witness the sunset. Yeah, there was banality and booze; but there was something wonderful and profound about seeing all those people gathering to witness the simple wonder of the sunset. I guess that's what drew Hemingway there, too. Oh, and there are feral chickens in Key West, chickens everywhere you go. Nobody seems to know why they're there, but there's something wonderful about them.

The water around Key West is horribly polluted, and nobody can find the cause. So...you can't swim in the water or eat the fish you catch there. It may seem like paradise....but there are problems. All that seems to fit, too.

MARGARITAVILLE
(Jimmy Buffett)

Nibblin' on sponge cake,
Watchin' the sun bake,
All of those tourists, covered with oil;
Strummin' my six-string,
On my front porch swing,
Smell those shrimp, they're beginnin' to boil.

CHORUS:
Wastin' away again in Margaritaville,
Searching for my lost shaker of salt;
Some people claim that there's a woman to blame,
But I know it's nobody's fault.

I don't know the reason
I stayed here all season,
Nothin' to show but this brand new tatto;o
But it's a real beauty,
A Mexican cutie,
How it got here I haven't a clue.

CHORUS:
Wastin' away again in Margaritaville,
Searchin' for my lost shaker of salt;
Some people claim that there's a woman to blame,
But I know,
Hell, it could be my fault.

I blew out my flip-flop,
Stepped on a pop-top;
Cut my heel, had to cruise on back home.
But there's booze in the blender,
And soon it will render
That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

CHORUS
Wastin' away again in Margaritaville,
Searching for my lost shaker of salt;
Some people claim that there's a woman to blame,
But I know it's my own damn fault.
Yes and some people claim that there's a woman to blame,
But I know it's my own damn fault.


http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/jimmy+buffett/margaritaville_20071892.html
(corrected)


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: GUEST,Nick E
Date: 31 May 13 - 08:49 PM


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 31 May 13 - 09:10 PM

I think it's "Wasted away again in Margaritaville..."

At one of my places of employment in the late '70s, our "theme song" was "Cheeseburger In Paradise", another Jimmy Buffet song. I hadn't yet discovered the joys of margaritas.

Linn


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 May 13 - 09:16 PM

Never heard of Jimmy Buffet, never heard of the sing or of the ensuing commercial enterprises.

You ler stuff at the Mudcat. Of course sometimes it's stuff not really worth learning...


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 May 13 - 09:23 PM

"pick a fight"    C'mon, Jeri, simmer down. There really is a difference between a debate and a fight--and we should be able to see that difference.    Do you need more sleep?







It's an novel idea--how somebody can create an business empire on the basis of capturing in one song how great it is to be a beach bum.    It's loaded with irony--which course makes it that much more fascinating. (At least I think so--but then I'm always looking for irony.)


But it sure seems to be a fact.

And Jimmy, I suspect, has no objection to the persona he's created for himself--and reinforced with other songs.    He might well think it beats a 9 to 5 job.    He might well be right.   And it doesn't seem likely he'll have to worry about retirement, for instance.   You could see him as a huge winner in the game of capitalism.   Some may resent this.   I don't.   He saw a market niche--and filled it perfectly. Good for him. And he's brought pleasure to lots of people --either at his concerts, or just in their own fantasy lives.

We could analyze the lyrics of the song--particularly its non-threatening nature, including being sexually non-threatening, and its instrumentation.    I'd think this might be an interesting exercise.   But it's pretty clear that I'd be in the minority on this, so we can pass (huge sigh of relief on Mudcat).

However I would like to mention that there have recently been others who have tried to at least share some of the Buffet magic (not Warren).    The obvious choice here is Kenney Chesney--definitely the easy-going beach fun type approach.   Alan Jackson has also made a bid for some of the Buffet luster--even had Jimmy share part of the song "5 O'Clock Somewhere"--to the huge acclaim of his audience.   And of course that song has in large part the same appeal. You could see it, I suppose, at least partly appealing to the same group that really liked the Beach Boys.    And I wouldn't quarrrel with that idea--in fact I really like all of the above.

Even Joe, above, admits to being seduced by the song.    It's a fun song--I don't really think Joe hates himself for liking it.   Say it ain't so, Joe.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 May 13 - 09:34 PM

One more thing.    Another delicious irony: this glorification of easy-going beach life, in preference to work, took place in the most capitalistic nation on the planet: the US.

And now it's been, as they say, " monetized".


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 May 13 - 09:44 PM

OK, so Joe says he doesn't like it--it's just an Ohrwurm.    Do you really think the song is "drivel", Joe?   Again, say it ain't so.   It's just fun--and even fun to sing if you don't identify with the narrator. Of course, so is "Sam Hall"--and I don't think many of us identify with that narrator. I imagine more are with Jimmy. But who knows?

Yeah, OK, different strokes. But why not look for all the fun you can in life?


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 May 13 - 09:45 PM

Ron, read what I said again. Yeah, it's an earworm and I hate myself for letting it run through my head; but I really think there's something interesting in the song. I think it's self-loathing, and I think it's parallel to the same self-loathing that Hemingway experienced during his time in Key West.

Kevin, I'm going to have to make a visit to England and introduce you to margaritas. I am one of those people who love Wikipedia, despite the criticism. To me, for the most part, it's right. Click here for the entire article, but here's a summary:
    The margarita is a Mexican cocktail consisting of tequila mixed with Cointreau or similar orange-flavored liqueur and lime or lemon juice, often served with salt on the glass rim. It is the most common tequila-based cocktail in the United States. The drink is served shaken with ice (on the rocks), blended with ice (frozen margarita), or without ice (straight up).
It's expensive to get really good tequila that with bourbon and brandy on the rocks, not blended - with salt on the rim of the glass if I have the energy. I tend to add a bit of water so it's not quite so sweet. To my mind, this is the best mixed drink ever invented - and all that fruit in it. serves to give you the illusion that it's healthy.

You people in England, you owe it to your cultural literacy to at least try a margarita. I suppose the most common thing is to put the concoction in a blender with ice and grind it up into an icy beverage - but that gives me an "ice cream headache" every time I take a sip. So, I take it on the rocks, it's very good. Since I stopped drinking martinis and switched to straight gin, margaritas are my favorite mixed drink.

Oh, and make a visit to Key West while you're at it, but keep in mind that you'll probably find better margaritas at any Mexican restaurant, anywhere in the United States.

And I know....it's my own damn fault.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 May 13 - 09:55 PM

"self-loathing"?    Holy mackerel,   Joe.    That almost sounds Puritanical.   Taking something like this song that seriously is not going to help your blood pressure.

Maybe folkies need to try to take things a bit easier--for their own good.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 May 13 - 09:56 PM

And of course we cross-posted.    And that's my own damn fault.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Art Thieme
Date: 31 May 13 - 10:14 PM

Mr. Buffett collaborated with my late friend Steve Goodman on some fine songs in the 198os. Good memories.


Art


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 May 13 - 10:46 PM

And I think you could group Jimmy Buffett and Jim Croce and Jerry Jeff Walker and Steve Goodman and Kris Kristofferson and Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings and a number of others together. They seemed to be all about partying and drinking and drugs and having a good time, but there was something deeper beneath their music.
And hey, I feel cool when I listen to them. Isn't that enough?

-Joe-

P.S. Ron, stop for a minute and consider my Buffett-Hemingway comparison. I think there's something to it. This is Hemingwayigan self-loathing, not any of that Puritan shit.



And by the way, the Key West Lighthouse is a particularly pretty one.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 01 Jun 13 - 12:23 AM

I'm not sure, but I believe some--maybe a lot-- of Hemingway's self-loathing was based on the contradiction between his super-masculine image and his homosexuality.

Jimmy Buffet is a successful capitalist now--who back in the 70's had a song which encapsulated the dreams of lots of people to have a life vastly different from what they in fact had.

There doesn't really seem any connection--or any reason for self-loathing by either Buffet or the protagonist of "Margaritaville".    You could see his statement (and the song) as thumbing his nose at the work ethic--an attitude which has a lot of resonance with many who feel stuck in a grind.

And I bet that's how lots of people see it---even if it's just in fantasy.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 01 Jun 13 - 12:27 AM

And sure I think it's great to feel cool listening to music.   I'm with you all the way on that.

I'm just skeptical about "self-loathing" in "Margaritaville".

And thanks for that picture of the lighthouse.

I've just been reading about lighthouses in an unexpected context:    at the start of the Revolution, Americans destroyed lighthouses to make navigation difficult for British ships.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 01 Jun 13 - 12:29 AM

Thanks, Art, for that note about the connection between Jimmy Buffet and Steve Goodman.   Can you give us any titles?


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Jun 13 - 03:32 AM

What an excellent debate. I would never have thought of the Hemingway connection. Glad I started the thread.

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Jun 13 - 03:36 AM

Oh - and for those who do not know it -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTf5qvS0Lo


D.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Art Thieme
Date: 01 Jun 13 - 03:40 PM

Steve wrote and sang the song Banana Republic.

Jimmy Buffett recorded it later.

Art


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Jun 13 - 07:04 PM

I've heard of the drink called a Margarita - but I've been rather put off by the thought of the little worm they are supposed to put. In the tequila...

There is one really good song called Margarita, by Harvey Andrews.
Here's a link to a site with the lyrics.



Mudcat thread on "Margarita," by Harvey Andrews.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Jun 13 - 11:47 PM

I grew up on the west coast of Florida and lived there when Buffett's career was taking off - and when radio stations and every bar band played Margaritaville every 15 minutes. So hearing the song again is like nails on a blackboard for me. Still - my hats off to Mr Buffett for build his song into a VERY lucrative business empire.

I enjoyed his novel "Where is Joe Merchant" - it's worth a read. And Key West is worth a visit. The wife and I honeymooned there.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 02:13 AM

I'm really surprised so many of the Brits posting here have never heard of either Jimmy Buffet or Margaritaville. OK, from my UK perspective JB was pretty much a one hit wonder so I can understand people never having heard of the man himself, but Margaritaville was played a lot on UK radio and TV in the late 70s, and was pretty hard to miss. I've even heard it played in the last couple of years at singarounds in the UK.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Bert
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 10:14 AM

Self loathing? Surely the song is about self realization.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 12:28 PM

Obviously McGrath doesn't know the joy of a pure, clear tequila (no gusano) on ice, better than Bombay gin and almost as good as a single malt.

I have posted Cheeseburger in Paradise in its own thread.

Unlike Joe, I regard Buffet as a great modern poet, speaking for the poor Joe in jobs such as pearl diving in a café and wishing for his kind of paradise.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Wesley S
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 05:25 PM

"I'm really surprised so many of the Brits posting here have never heard of either Jimmy Buffet or Margaritaville. "

I suspect that most of them HAVE heard the song and know all about Buffett - but it offend their purest folkie souls to admit that they know of such pedestrian material.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 12:23 AM

I was in a Catholic seminary in Milwaukee from 1962-70, so I missed a bit. I wouldn't say I was 'sheltered,' but I didn't get out of Milwaukee much and spent summers at a boys' camp. My brothers were growing up in Racine, Wisconsin - 25 miles south of Milwaukee. They tended to go to Chicago for music, and they had quite an experience. The middle brother was a booking agent, so he had contact with everybody in music in the midwest. My youngest brother had a lot of music in his life, too. Here's what he says about a Jimmy Buffett DVD he has:
    The Buffett DVD was shot at Wrigley Field. For the encore, Buffett left the stage in centerfield while the lights were out and then appears in the right field bleachers alone to sing City of New Orleans and to make comments about Steve turning him into a Cubs fan when they would go to afternoon Cubs games together in the early 70s. Now that I think about it, that's is when I became a Cubs fan in those same bleachers. Too bad I didn't have an Old Style with them.
So, you, Brits, I wonder if you could spend a little time and effort to try to understand us Americans. Go to Spotify or YouTube or wherever, and listen to a little Jimmy Buffett, Steve Goodman, Jerry Jeff Walker, Jim Croce, Willie Nelson, and Waylon Jennings. I think you'll enjoy them.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: LesB
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 03:01 AM

"I suspect that most of them HAVE heard the song and know all about Buffett - but it offend their purest folkie souls to admit that they know of such pedestrian mater

No, sorry Wesley I havn't heard the song before, (I have now). As far as I'm concerned it's just a C&W / pop song, nothing special. The only thing offensive to me is it's blandness.

"So, you, Brits, I wonder if you could spend a little time and effort to try to understand us Americans. Go to Spotify or YouTube or wherever, and listen to a little Jimmy Buffett, Steve Goodman, Jerry Jeff Walker, Jim Croce, Willie Nelson, and Waylon Jennings. I think you'll enjoy them.
-Joe"

By the way Joe I like Jim Croce & some Steve Goodman, can't stand Willie Nelson.
Cheers
Les


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 07:44 AM

"blandness"---i.e.    people having a good time, not protesting anything, with lyrics you can understand and sing along with.   Admittedly this may be an un-folk attitude.

But who knows; there may be more:   we hear so much about Puritanism in the US;   maybe the UK still has its own Puritan streak.

As Jimmy says elsewhere:    If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 12:43 AM

Steve Goodman, Jim Croce, Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings yes   - just never heard of Jimmy Buffett (or Jerry Jeff Walker).   Never heard the song either.

You never stop coming across old stuff that's new to you, thank goodness.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Jun 13 - 11:21 PM

I read Buffet's autobiography a couple of times in the late 90's, "A Pirate looks at 50" I think it was called. Joe if Buffet is to believed he spent a couple of years in Key West and a few of years sailing and touring to pay for the sailing. The rest of the time living a fairly orderly life. He is not much of a drinker or smoker, though he wrote about both and at the time was living on Long Island NY, raising kids, surf fishing, flying sea planes and writing off the expenses because he was writing about it. More of a business man than a partier by any accounting. Certainly NOT a parrot head, but having lots of fun!

If you really want to know more, the book is on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Pirate-Looks-at-Fifty/dp/0449223345

The most interesting thing about Buffett is the legend. I visited a few beach side bars on the Northern shore of the Gulf of Mexico around y2k. In all of them I was told that Jimmy had visited a few times and jammed with the house band. "And he might just so up today" Name another artist who is a mythical as Santa Claus in a region!


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 12:54 PM

Joe Offa missed out the "lost verse" which was not on the hit recording due to time restrictions (a 3 min slot on the radio)

"Old men in tank tops,
Cruising the gift shops,
Checkout chakeetas down shore.
Dreaming of weight loss,
wish they could be their own boss,
These three day vacations become such a bore"

And I am a Parrothead, from the UK - we formed our own chapter over here for a while and the tee shirts read P.H.U.K. (Parrot heads Uninted Kingdom)- they were a BIG hit in Margaritaville Orlando. Wish I could go back again xxx


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 01:45 PM

Ah, finally I think I got it.

"chakeetas" must be chiquitas.

What a great 4th verse!


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: open mike
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 04:08 PM

up thread there is mention of a "novel idea" that reminded me that Jimmy Buffet has written several novels...http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=jimmy+buffet+books&tag=googhydr-20&index=stripbooks&hvadid=4307926285&hvpos=1o1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1651414481552461666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_839vktp71i_b
oh, and here is an ideal place to hear lots of music by Jimmy
and others with a similar sound/theme...radio margaritaville


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: open mike
Date: 05 Jun 13 - 04:13 PM

here is a list of artists featured on the above-mentioned margarita radio stream...http://www.margaritaville.com/radio_artists.html
oh,yes, and Jimmy has many products to sell (besides music) one is his own brand of tequila (and rum) http://www.margaritavillespirits.com/agegate.php


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 02:35 PM

It turns out the UK is certainly a great place to live for T-shirts.

Both French Connection United Kingdom and Parrot Heads United Kingdom.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 02:55 PM

Chick - Slang for young available woman
ita - Spanish affectionate suffix for things female

chickita


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 03:06 PM

The first I heard of "the lost verse"

"Old men in tank tops,
Cruising the gift shops,
Checkout chakeetas down shore.
Dreaming of weight loss,
wish they could be their own boss,
These three day vacations become such a bore"

Was on the live Compilation "Jimmy Buffet Live! You had to be there. In the 1970's It had a lot of little parrot head nuggets like that on it including my introduction to Jimmy's more poetic, folkier side with great renditions of "He Went to Paris", "A Pirate looks at 40" and "The Captain and The Kid." All are sweet little biographies not out of place in any reasonably contemporary nautical song repertoire.

here is the URL for the album on You-tube, I hope it works for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG2W6wdMBnc


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 03:13 PM

If the youtube album is incomplete, here is the amazon listing.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 03:20 PM

Chakeeta sounds like a Russian rattle,


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 03:21 PM

Face it, spelling counts.


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 06 Jun 13 - 06:32 PM

"just never heard of Jimmy Buffett (or Jerry Jeff Walker).   Never heard the song either."

Neither have I. Some people seem to find it hard to accept that just because something is reasonably well known in the States it doesn't mean it is known the world over. Someone said from a UK perspective Buffet was a one hit wonder - but to be a one hit wonder you have to first have a hit. He has had no hits here! Just checked the Guiness Book of Hit Singles and Albums and he's not listed. Not even in the bottom echelons of the charts. No presence at all. Plenty other songs haven't been hits but are well known but again like you, this is the first time I've even heard of the song. If it was getting played 'a lot' on the radio in the late 1970s then I don't know how I managed to miss it - cos I listened to a hell of a lot of radio in those days!


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Subject: RE: Margaritaville, most lucrative song ever
From: Ron Davies
Date: 07 Jun 13 - 11:17 PM

I'm not surprised some in the UK had not heard the song--or heard of Jimmy.

I was actually more surprised that there was a P.H.U K.


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