BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS

Subject: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 08:07 AM

PLEASE SUPPORT HIM! CONTACT YOUR LOCAL MP, CONTACT 'ATOS', CONTACT THE 'DWP', CONTACT 'THE BASTARD', otherwise known as Iain Duncan Smith who has brought these outrageous reforms in, which are literally driving people to their Deaths!

George is now in Day 13 of his Hunger Strike. He is prepared to die for others, in order to get ATOS and the DWP to stop their Persecution of the most vulnerable people in society.

Interview on Youtube with George Rolph

George's Facebook page


Letter from George, to share via Facebook

For those without Facebook...here is his letter:

From George Rolph:

An Announcement About My Protest

"When I began my protest my aim was not hurt or cause distress to anyone but those who should be hurt and distressed because they deserve to be. Neither did I intend to take my life, but to give it in the service of others also suffering under the brutal and cruel regime of ATOS and the DWP.

I did not ask to be placed on disability benefit. My doctor made that decision when he gave me a sick note to take to the DHSS as it was then. He gave me that note because it was clear I could no longer hold down a job. I wanted to work but I just could not do so. I have PTSD.



I sought help for the PTSD but It was almost impossible to find any. This country is way behind America in that regard. My doctor got me a counsellor. She asked me to lay on a couch while she played dolphin music to me. I left in disgust. I wanted help coping with the symptoms, not to be a part of some new age hippy experiment.

I found a psychiatric drop-in centre nearby and went in and poured out my heart to a bored looking man who said virtually nothing. At the end, he left the office and returned shortly after with a piece of paper. He handed it to me; made it clear it was time for me to leave and showed me the door. When I got outside I looked at the paper. It was a list of books to read. One of the titles I remember was "How to contact your inner child." I was stupefied that this was the level of care being offered to the sick by people being paid very handsome salaries. Sheer, disinterested laziness lay behind that book list!



I took the list to the Library and the girl took it to see if they could order them for me. Some of them cost over £60 one of them was over £100. She laughed and said the Library could not afford to buy books like this and said I needed a specialist reference Library. I threw the paper in the bin.



The level of benefits I was getting placed me just above the poverty line and sometimes, when many bills came together, below the poverty line. I watched my life going down the toilet.



I was eating rubbish food. Wearing second hand clothes bought from charity shops. I was never totally on top of bills, so to pay them I would have to eat beans on toast every day for two weeks and vitamin supplements. In Winter I was frightened of turning on the heating. I had a fridge-freezer that I turned onto the lowest safe setting to conserve electricity. I would never have more than one light bulb burning and those were energy saving bulbs. When my hoover burnt out I could no longer clean the carpet and I watched as the grime built up. I could not afford a new hoover.



In time you become inured to living in filth. You stop seeing it because you can do nothing about it. You just try to keep yourself clean and presentable to the world. I wore a false smile everyday so people would not know the strain I was feeling inside. I felt like half a man; a failure; but I went on in the hope that the future may get brighter some day.



One day I saw a job advertised. Working from home in Telesales. I decided to give it a go. Maybe, if I was working from home, I could fit the job around my symptoms. It was a big decision. If I took the job and could not handle it, I would lose all benefits. I took the risk. I worked very hard for three weeks and then I fell apart. It is the nature of PTSD that routines can be almost impossible to maintain. You cannot go night after night with little sleep and remain a fully functioning human being who rises at 7am and works to 5pm. I quit and I lost all benefits.



When my last pay cheque ran out I sat in a house with no power and no food wondering if I would starve or freeze to death first. Finally I went to a local church and began to beg. I had never felt so degraded in my life. An old Scottish couple heard my pleas and came to my rescue. Out of their own pockets they began shopping for three and they paid my power bills too. I now had heat, food and light again. I then went to war with the DHSS, won the battle and my benefits were restored after three more weeks. God bless that Scottish couple. They were a model of what Christianity is supposed to be.



My life returned to a routine of robbing Peter to pay Paul. Just trying to keep my head above water. I used to read reports in the media of people living a life of luxury on the dole and wonder how they managed it. I never read about what it is really like.



Of course, I saw through the government and media agenda on the subject. If they could blame those on the dole for daring to take it, they could hide the truth of what life was like for those honest people living on it. The government needed cash for wars, grand building projects, like high speed rail links and for fiddling their expenses. They did not want to give cash to the poor, but they also wanted to look like they did.



The art of spin.



Then one day the call came to visit an ATOS assessment centre in Croydon. I duly went along. I went without food for two days to pay for the train and bus fairs to get there, but they said I could claim those expenses back. I would have to wait three weeks to get those fairs back though.



I went, I sat through the interview. I passed. Later I was called to do the same again. I went, I sat through the interview. I passed. Then again.I went, I sat through the interview. I passed. Then once more. Same questions. Same responses to those questions.I failed!



They did not tell me there and then I had failed. I found out a month later at a compulsory job centre interview. I had drawn my last benefits that day. All benefits were now cut off.



I was in shock for three days. I could not read, let alone fill out the appeal form I had been given. I would stare at the form but the words would not penetrate my mind. My whole world was crumbling around me. The terrible implications for my immediate future were pounding at my mind.



Bailiffs banging on the door. Power cut off. No food. Eviction for non payment of rent. On the streets at sixty years old. Dying in obscurity down an alley somewhere.

Why? Who did I hurt? Even criminals get a warm bed, three meals a day and clothing.



I was not stealing from anyone. In fact, when a friend gave me £20 for helping load a van when he moved house, I took £10 of it and handed it in the DHSS office in Bromley because I was not allowed to earn more that £10 a week. Why was I now being punished by ATOS for being sick and being honest?



How did I fail? There was no sense or logic to it. If I passed three times and nothing had changed, why had I failed on the forth occasion. This smelt of a whim. Someone at the assessment centre had made a decision that I was going to fail in order to meet their target. They met their target. I met horror.



How do they sleep?



I typed "Dealing with ATOS" into Google and I started reading. What I found horrified me. They had done this to thousands of people and people were dying!



Dear friend and supporter. I am going to make an announcement, but before I do so I want to strain your patience just a little longer. I want to show you what REAL criminal scroungers look like and then I want you to remember that this government and Prime Minister insists we remain a part of this villainous exercise, while at the same time they beat up the disabled in our own country.



This is part of a report from the Times newspaper.

February 22, 2009

By Jonathan Oliver (Times Online)



A LEAKED internal report has revealed systematic abuses by Euro MPs of parliamentary allowances that enable them to pocket more than £1m in profits from a single five-year term, writes Jonathan Oliver.

The auditor's confidential report, suppressed by the Brussels parliament, discloses the extraordinary frauds used by MEPs to siphon off staff allowances funded by taxpayers.



It shows that some claimed for paying assistants of whom no record exists, awarded them bonuses of up to 1½ times annual salary and diverted public money into front companies.



An investigation into the abuses of staff allowances worth up to £182,000 a year — many of which are paid by MEPs to members of their family — was delivered in January last year but was not published.



A copy of the 92-page report, prepared by Robert Galvin, the parliament's head of internal audit, has been seen by The Sunday Times. It reveals:



Payments were made to assistants who were not accredited with the European parliament and to companies whose accounts showed no activity.



End-of-year bonuses worth up to 19½ times monthly salary were paid to assistants to allow members to use up their full annual allowance.



Payments, supposedly for secretarial work, were made to a crèche whose manager happened to be a local politician from the MEP's political party.



Payments were made straight into the coffers of national political parties.



Some assistants doubled their money by banking pay-offs from outgoing MEPs at the same time as receiving salaries from incoming ones.



One MEP claimed to have paid the full £182,000 staff allowance to one person, suspected of being a relative.

The revelations come as British MEPs look forward to an inflation-busting pay rise this year that could see their take-home pay rising by almost 50%.



In his report, Galvin said that overpayments of allowances were common, adding: "Remuneration paid may not always be justified by the real costs of providing parliamentary assistance." He warned that abuses exposed the parliament to "financial, legal and reputational risk".



The report was based on a representative sample of 167 payments — out of a total of 4,686 — made during October 2004. It suggests that Galvin unearthed only a tiny fraction of the many corrupt practices employed by some of the 785 members of the 27-nation parliament. His analysis of the 2004 figures then took years to surface within the secretive Brussels bureaucracy.



Dear friend. Can you see? We are being run by gangsters in expensive suits who are lining their own pockets while they strip all they can get away with from our own people. They are stealing your money while hypocritically blaming the poor for doing the same!



THAT is evil. No matter how you cut it, that is EVIL.



I fought back with the only weapon I had and decided to go on a hunger and water strike in protest and to try and alert as many people as possible to what is going on. I know that politicians willing to do these things are not going to listen to me. BUT I also know that if YOU raise your voices loudly enough they will HAVE TO listen to YOU!



However, there was a flaw in my strategy that I did not take into account. In doing this and making my time so short, I was actually going to be hurting the very people I needed to support me. I have been so moved by people who have been saying to me that they support me 100% but would I please just drink.



My dear friends Jess and Ian, who have been stalwarts in backing my protest have both carried a lot of anxiety about my health and I know many of you have also. One of the biggest problems has been the time factor that my hunger and water strike imposed. A maximum of just 12 days to live but probably shorter than that in reality.

After much soul searching I have decided to drink today, but I shall not eat until victory has been won. I gather I can expect to live for around 60 days without food. That should be enough time to mobilise a huge protest to get ATOS stopped and to demand retribution for the needless deaths that have already happened.



Murder is wrong! Officially sanctioned murder is just as wrong!



Please. Let us all fight back and for once, let the decent people be heard instead of those evil voices that con, deceive, lie and pervert our country and its values for their own ends.



We have to take our country back. This fight will be one step on that journey. I beg you. Help me to win it so we can help those who cannot help themselves."



George Rolph"
27th May 2013

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 02 Jun 13 - 08:12 AM

Oh..and George is a deeply committed Christian, who has no fear about dying. I've tried to talk him out of it, as have many others, but he's absolutely adamant that he will not eat food again until the EVIL that is now happening in the UK is stopped...even if he dies in the process.

You can contact George via his FB page, which his friends are also now helping to run, with regard to replying to messages.

He went without Water too until Day 10, when he promised his friends he'd finally take some because he wants to last as long as he can, in the hope this will bring HUGE change. His story is being taken up by people all over the world now. Local BBC news is, amazingly, with him too, now interviewing him...

I've contacted all the mainstream papers in the UK and others have too, also in the USA.

Please do all *you* can to help too, for the time has now come for ALL OF US to stand together, to protect the sick, the mentally unwell, the disabled, the most VULNERABLE of people, willingly and with love, for so many are being deliberately turned against those at the bottom, whilst The Evil Bastards drive round in their Morgan cars and live in their VAST houses!

This HAS to stop!!

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 04:55 AM

Update.

George has now had is Disability Benefits reinstated by the DWP who have been working overtime to get this sorted out, scared shitless by the publiicty this has created.

George however, is now on Day 14 of his Hunger Strke, as he has NO intention of stopping until ATOS and the DWP have stopped this evil entirely, for he is fighting for all those who cannot fight, who may have to fight in the future...

Even if it means he has to die, he will continue until he forces them to stop this insanity...

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 03 Jun 13 - 06:40 AM

That twat Duncan Smith hates the working class, his aim is ultimately to stop ALL benefits.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 07:53 AM

All he seems?

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie
Date: 19 Jun 13 - 03:08 AM

Publicity seeking can be a symptom of an illness so before anybody gets wound up too far, balancing this story with all the information may be a good idea.

For me, using people's illness to make them a cause celeb can backfire. ATOS do need to spend more effort ensuring the vulnerable are not caught up in the aim of discouraging lifestyle and to date, their track record has been shocking.

The pie eating UKIP voting claims surrounding this person do nothing to persuade either government nor their agents to change course or refine their criteria.

And that is ultimately sad. A rational debate over progress to date and the ultimate aims of the ATOS brief are long overdue. But there are enough reasons in non attributable evidence to start that debate without people being paraded for the frustrated self righteous.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 04:08 AM

Well said, Musket. Going off on well intentioned but poorly thought out crusades often does more harm than good to most causes.

I think Mr Rolph's campaign was well intentioned and ATOS certainly need a kick up the arse but they must be rubbing their hands in glee at the recent developments.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 08:49 AM

ATOS will tell you they don't make decisions, that decisions are made by the DWP. This is a lie. I've just received the report from the ATOS so-called "health professional" who examined me (they have to give it to you if you ask for it, the summary, handwritten notes, the lot). Without going into detail at this time, there is no doubt that the ATOS man was clearly steering the decision, which was then rubber-stamped by the DWP "decision maker". One more thing. The only evidence ATOS used in my case was what I put on my form (filled in five months before my examination and seriously out of date by then). They did not ask my GP or hospital consultants for any information at all, and they did not obtain the MRI scan report which showed significant and debilitating issues with my spine (I've since had surgery, a prospect which was inevitable by the time of my examination, and which I told ATOS about but which was neither investigated nor taken into account). You're entitled by law to know exactly what evidence they take into account, which is why I know all this - I'm not guessing here, I have a huge wad of paperwork from the DWP.

ATOS is one prong of a two-pronged attack by this government. The other is the persistent and concerted demonisation of people on benefits. Disabled people have no real way of fighting back. Let's not forget, also, that this coalition, in its attacks on vulnerable people, is merely building on what New Labour started.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 07:16 PM

Well, George is sure surprising everyone at present....

I'm shortly going to take him down, down, deeper and down...but I just need a bit more information first...

He's turned out to be a total bastards who not only hates man-hating feminists (well, I'm with him on that one) but all women in general...especially me and another lassie who was working her backside off to help him...

This guy is seriously nuts..and I'm so fecking fuming because I now feel he's actually USED the most vulnerable of people who are already suffering because of ATOS, let alone being unwell, to bring people in, then change tack to his Anti-Woman, Anti-Left campaign..

I can tell you that many women are deeply upset, especially those who've been abused yet who stepped up to help him in every way they could..Some of them are getting more than a bit upset, as in physically upset....

I'm just feckingly fuming...

But watch out, Georgie Boy, for I'm coming after you, you 'orrible little fecker!

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 08:22 PM

OOOPS!

One of Liz's heroes turns out to be a piece of crap.

Lets see if she can learn from this experience and apply it in future.

I'm not holding my breath.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 08:36 PM

Yes, one would like to know where Lizzie actually stands on this. One is confused.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 04:40 AM

Difficult to tell, Steve. Maybe we need a Show of Hands to see what everyone thinks...

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 05:52 AM

Looks like this arse has let a lot of people down. Strong figureheads *with integrity* are often important to people's movements.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Paddy McBollox
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 01:56 PM

This is the core problem with slacktivism: in addition to being a lazy and pointless alternative to actually doing anything, it breeds a weird combination of zeal, self-aggrandisement and superficiality. Slacktivists get all worked up over out-of-context pictures (which often turn out to be manipulated or misrepresented) and try to sum up very complex issues for others (that they often barely understand themselves) in 10 word sound bytes. No wonder they're left with egg on their faces in situations like this.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 22 Jun 13 - 05:21 PM

Greg, everytime you open your mouth to me, I remember why I rarely come to this place any longer. You have never been one of my heros, but I can assure you that you are absolutely on a par with George Rolph.

Thank you.



I am going to take this fecker down SO deep that he will regret every one of his sociopathic moments in the past few days...

Yes, even a sociopath can reach 'The Point Of Oh Shit!' and I am SO going to take him there, for I know, first hand, the pain and confusion he's caused to many gentle, kind women, many of whom have been deeply abused...and now, those memories are spilling out of them all over again...

I've seen the utter bewilderment of disabled people themselves, or those who care for them...

But he has seen none of this, nor has he seen my anger, because, for once in my life, I am holding back, biding my time, watching and waiting....

I have ONE chance to do this...and I HAVE to get this right....

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jun 13 - 05:37 PM

Go, gal!

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Greg F.
Date: 22 Jun 13 - 06:43 PM

I remember why I rarely come to this place any longer.

Rarely is way too soon, Liz. And you most certainly are an expert on bewilderment.

You have a nice day now, y'hear?

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Jun 13 - 08:58 AM

Lizzie, we often do not agree but on this we are of the same opinion. This man has cuckolded the fight against ATOS by using it for his own clandestine purposes. I am intrigued by what you are going to do to 'take him down'. I fully understand you are not at liberty to disclose what that is yet, but when you have done it let us know.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 13 - 05:50 PM

Anything yet?

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 05 Jul 13 - 05:33 AM

Give it a second or two to open to the main letter page...

Letter 1 - The Dating Site - An Open Letter To George Rolph - Dear George....


Letter 2 - The Erroneous Accusation Against Women - An Open Letter to George Rolph - Dear George.....

Letter 3 - The White Feather Campaign and Those Behind It - An Open Letter to George Rolph - Dear George

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 05 Jul 13 - 05:33 AM

Many more to follow yet....

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Jul 13 - 06:23 AM

We appear to have Lizzie Cornish 1 and GUEST,Lizzie Cornish on here. Are both the same?

_________________________________

They are one and the same, Richard. ----mudelf

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Jul 13 - 06:42 AM

Nice try, Lizzie. Bit of advice though - I know I have given it before and you have bitten my head off, but here goes... Maybe shorter letters would be more effective? Halfway through the first one I began to flag. I really struggled getting through the second and by the third I was loosing the will to live :-(

I am not, as you know, a big fan of internet campaigns and I suspect this one will be as ineffective as most but at least you are bringing this con man to the attention of other people. If you simply bullet point the details in, say, half a page, a lot more people will know what you are getting at. As it is most people who, like me, have little time or inclination to study everything we see on the internet, will struggle to see your point.

Cheers

DtG

BTW - Don't feel too bad about being conned by him in the first place. I think a lot of people may have been.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 05 Jul 13 - 07:14 AM

Yes, Richard 'we' are. Fear not, for your Fluffy One has not been infiltrated.. ;0)

Ah well, Dave..that's just me. I write as I do, will always continue to do so. I don't have the Precis Gene. Everyone else who read them liked them very much, so that's OK with me.

I am angry because I know that pain he's caused to many dear and innocent people. I'm also angry because he's now targetting me, and the other lassie who helped him, who is so deeply upset that she's left Facebook entirely, even giving her up work on an ATOS page, a page to highlight their evil, that is.

She was a sweet, gentle woman, who had been deeply abused herself and who worked her backside off for this vile and foul man.

Personally, I feel he's pulled the wool over everyone's eyes, for I do not believe he has PTSD at all. He is perfectly capable of work and indeed, he even states on yet another of his pages (he has hundreds) that he is enjoying life with his lady...

Really????    That's for a whole other letter...

Last night I had someone else come over to tell me they lived not far away from him and she feels he's absolutely vile too, even more so since she discovered he was so very rude to Heidi, his MP, who spoke out on his behalf, got his benefits reinstated etc....

And then, today, yet another woman came over to tell me she too has a story to tell about how abusive he was to her too, verbally.

This man is crazy, but sadly, he is very intelligent crazy...

He will drag anyone through the dirt....I've been dragged through it so often, and so deeply, that I can stand up to anyone now, so he doesn't phase me at all, but I know he's caused deep upset, yes, even fear, amongst many others...

He's announced on his page now that he has 'important news relating to his hunger strike coming up' which he'd like everyone to share..He already said, when someone pointed out how well he appeared to be after over 40 days of no food, that he was like the Biafrans, who were able to still exist after months without food....

Yes, he'll use anyone and anything to make his point...

The most heartbreaking comment of all came from a woman who is actually dying..and she said how deeply upset she is at the flippant way he speaks of carrying on to the end, as she has NO choice at all in her life....She's heartbroken that a man she too rallied round to help has turned out to be so foul....

Sociopath?
Yes, I'd say he is...for he has no conscience and no guilt.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 05 Jul 13 - 10:00 AM

Truly, you could not make this man up....NO mention of all those he's hurt, used, upset, of course...


George Rolph

48 minutes ago.

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT.

To all my Facebook friends and followers.

I have, for tactical reasons, decided to suspend my hunger strike. I have taken this decision because it became clear to me over the last week, that my activist support base in not substantial enough to continue with any hope of success.

Following a deliberate, nasty, vicious and sustained attack, which included written physical threats on my life, libel, misrepresentations of my views and writings, as well as clever attempts to both undermine the campaign by sucking away supporters using fear and smears, and by the creation of attack pages that potential supporters were asked to view before being talked out of supporting the campaign and its aims, it was clear to me that I needed time to rebuild a core support base of people, willing to work on behalf of the disabled community, currently under sustained governmental, economic and political attack.

I should add that the police have been informed of these activities and I am hoping that charges will be brought in the future.

The nature of these attacks have NOT surprised me in the least and neither have I been intimidated by them. (I have faced these very things before and my home has also come under attack from misguided groups like these in the past). Rather, they have revealed just what kind of people, often posing as 'carers,' are REALLY like inside.

It should be clear to anyone thinking seriously about these matters, that caring for the disabled is the last thing on these peoples agenda. No one caring for such a vulnerable group as this countries disabled so obviously are, would place their own personal political views above the needs of those people and attack them, indirectly, by seeking to destroy such a potent symbol of protest as my hunger strike. To do so reveals a disturbing lack of proportion, empathy and care as well as – because of the manner in which it was done – a huge degree of mental and emotional dysfunction that is truly shocking. Though hidden behind a 'disabled activist' public persona, once revealed in all of its naked and vicious horror, displayed nothing less than a brutal disregard for the lives and well being of others.

Whether their aims were political, personal, or simply some distorted idea of revenge; or even a balance of any of those reasons; their actions were savage, disgusting, sustained, criminal and frankly, evil. However, we must now let justice take its own course and not do, write or say ANYTHING that could prejudice that final attempt at justice. I am NOT looking for anyone to attack these people in any way. That is what the police and the law are for and vigilantism is never the right answer to attacks like these. Anyone found making such attacks will be banned from the campaign and this page for good.

The campaign is NOT over and neither is the hunger strike. I propose to allow myself two weeks for my body to recover. Formally ending my hunger strike, for this period, at midnight tonight. However, in exactly two weeks I shall begin another forty day hunger strike. At the end of that period I will eat again for two weeks and then commence another forty day hunger strike if necessary and so on, until the government meet my two simple requests for justice for the nations disabled.

For the next two weeks I shall be very busy and I will need YOUR help. I want YOU to help me rebuild my support base and help me to police it. Anyone who is found to undermine the protest in any way WILL BE EXCLUDED. If you find people doing that and have evidence for it, I want YOU to report it directly to me. I am not interested in your 'feelings' or 'gut instincts,' only in evidence. I shall then take the necessary actions. This is to ensure that no more unstable people can enter the campaign and seek to destroy it from within.

If you – as I hope you will – recruit others to the campaign, I shall rely upon you to appraise them of past attempts to destroy the campaign and to warn them of attempts that may be made to draw them away from it. I would like you to encourage them to report any such attempts and KEEP all texts or other messages attempting to persuade them and send them to me. Those messages etc., should CLEARLY identify who the people are that are sending them. All libels, threats etc., will be given to my lawyer.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of those who have remained loyal and supportive throughout this difficult period. Some of you have been with me from the very start, others have come later. All of you are very precious to me and to all of the disabled out there who need our help. My Lord and My God will bless you as I do.

I love you all. Even the haters. Thank you.

George Rolph
Day 46 of my hunger strike for justice for the disabled.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Jul 13 - 03:46 PM

Hmmmm - A post seem to have fell off! What I can remember said don't try to do everything yourself, Lizzie. If you cannot précis let friends do it for you. You will get more people on board with headlines. In a nutshell.

Anyone know what happened to my post btw?

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 04:11 AM

Thanks, Dave, but I get people on board very well with the way I write naturally, thank you.

The letter I wrote about the dating site has, so I was told yesterday, now been passed to his MP, the one he has been abusive too apparently, despite Heidi doing all she could to help him.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 09:23 AM

Are we sure that this other persona really is Mr Rolph? Or if they are the same person, they are not both personas of yet another troll? How do we know? I would hate anyone to fall for, effectively, the same scam twice. Or by 2 different scams from two different idiots operating in the same way we have seen with fakebook profiles of Mudcatters. He fooled some people once. I am sure he is capable of doing it again.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 09:59 AM

His other persona, or rather, ONE of them, I expect, is 'freemycatfish', which is his name in Twitter, along with 'Digby Snozzlelung'..If you scroll down his postings you will find him referring to himself and it's filled with the usual stuff about evil feminists, battered men, lefties, etc.etc..

Look on Google..you'll find masses of his postings in that name...all with the same lovely photo he uses of what he thinks a feminist looks like...


https://twitter.com/freemycatfish


Don't get me wrong, I agree with some of what he says about how men are treated these days, but I do not preach putrid hatred about it. There are many other factors too as to why society has become like it is, but according to him, it's down to feminists and lefties...

Also, he adores the patriachal society and is very insulting of matriachal societies...

Shame he never got to talk to Russell Means, but this man won't listen to anyone.

He had something SO precious in his hands...and he threw it away, because his own ego and viewpoints mattered more to him than the very cause he was professing to support...

He's also stopped his hunger strike now..and is going to take 2 weeksk off, then 40 days of hunger strike, then 2 weeks off, then 40 days (I presume the 40days is a religious thing, him being so darn Christian an' all...)

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,LizzieCornish
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 10:01 AM

My latest letter to him...It's long, you may need whiskey.....

https://lettrs.com/lizziecornish#2c9bqb


June 23, 2013

Open Letter to George Rolph

Letter 4 - Hunger Strikes & Hypocrites

Dear George,

I was very pleased to hear that you have now stopped your hunger strike and that after almost 50 days without food you have been able to savour the taste of boiled eggs and toast shortly after you stopped, moving on almost instantly to Lamb Curry the next day.

It just shows me, yet again, what a very strong constitution you have, George, which I have to admire, as I did your being able to force yourself to write so very many long and amazingly coherent messages to your Facebook page each and every day throughout this gruelling endurance you have put yourself through.

Comparing yourself to the starving of Biafra was an excellent move, as that must have ended the suspicions of many, for when you pointed out that they were able to still live relatively normal lives despite being without food for *far* longer than you, I thought it was truly a stroke of genius, as I'd not thought of it that way before, and I have to admit, I was teetering on The Edge Of Disbelief myself for a short while there..

I'm sure many who may have had the word 'Hypocrite' running through their minds, banished it forever with those words of yours.

As soon as the images of those starving people came into my mind, I could see where you were coming from, although, I only seem to recall tragic images of them staggering in morbid silence, with skin hanging off them and hopelessness in their eyes, whilst desperately trying to put one foot in front of the other, often carrying their dying children, or indeed, in some sad cases, their already dead children...but I am now a very ancient bear, of very little brain...so my memory lets me down often.

However, I'm sure I must have simply overlooked the Biafrans who were carrying their computers with them so they could keep in touch with the rest of the world, updating them about their plight on a daily basis too...although, perhaps they didn't have computers back then, (See? there I go again!) in which case, no doubt they were writing letters under the shade of a tree, whenever possible, and of course, when not burying their beloved children, or just sitting down quietly to die with them in dignity.

It was just such a relief to know that all was well and that it was perfectly normal to still be able to do what you were doing after nearly 7 weeks of no food...and I no longer felt any need to worry.

Now, George, I'm very concerned about a few things on your behalf, obviously, and, as you know, I can no longer speak to you via your FB or email, as you've blocked me, along with many, many others, but unlike everyone else, I do like to always be of help to you.

First of all, do you recall when you said this about me?

>>>>>>>>>>
From George Rolph Yes Ariadne...then I expressed a viewpoint that was OFF their narrative and Lizzie Cornish....that great supporter of the disabled and Scar Sugar plum began a sytematic effort to abuse a disabled man on hunger strike FOR the disabled. Now, what does that tell you about THEIR character and the desirability of wanting people who could sink that low as "supporters" ? I don't WANT OR NEED fakes around me. ANYONE who could behave in that way because they were "offended" is totalitarian and part of the problem and not the solution. They are NOT welcome here and I do not want them around me. I have PTSD BECAUSE of female domestic abuse covered up and ignored by the feminist run abuse industry....I make NO APOLOGIES for decrying them, their attitudes or for exposing them for the lunatics they are. Like it or lump it, I will continue to do so because I decided long ago that NO MORE SILENCE was a good creed to live by. Now, among those groups are probably some lovely people. LET THEM STAND UP AND SPEAK OUT ALSO! No room for cowards here. Silence in the face of tyranny is cowardice."
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Well....I got very worried about this, George, for you seem to have totally the wrong end of the stick and I'm sure it must have been because of your hunger strike, and it may well still be causing you pain, so...here is The Truth.

I found you in Facebook one day, just stumbled across you.

As I am a Carer for my 98 year old ex-mother-in-law, who lives here with me and is also registered blind, very deaf and frail, I thought you were doing a very noble thing.

I also cared for my Darlin' Dad to the end of his days, following his first stroke, when he came to live with us, with Mum too. Dad also suffered from Emphysema, not a nice thing to have at all. I nearly also ended up caring for my father-in-law too, but he died shortly before he was due to move in with us. He had Alzheimers. (I was married back then). My mother had also lived with me during the time, from my father's illness to his death. (this was marriage No 1, by the way, as I know you know I was married to someone else later)

So, you can see I am no coward and have been caring for disabled people for a very long time. Vi, my ex-mother-in-law, lived with me during my first marriage and I've cared for her now for 13 years, the last 4 of those being here with me, whilst also raising my children at the same time.

The 'abuse' of which you speak was not that at all.

Indeed, when you first started that thread which seemed to many to humiliate and degrade women, the one where you stated you always told men there was 'no such thing as the female mind', I wrote you some gentle emails (I have them still, George, and they are also on my FB page now, along with your replies) in which I told you how worried I was that you were in grave danger of sabotaging your campaign for the sick, disabled and vulnerable by saying what you were saying to the very people who were helping you.. You replied telling me you thought it was funny to get 'feminists' and 'lefties' all riled up..and you continued on with doing exactly that.

This worried me, as most of the women on that thread, (Again, I have a copy of it, George, should you need it to refresh your memory, as I'm only here to help) were kind, gentle people...and there were many kind and gentle 'lefties' on there too, all of whom had been wishing you well and helping you, some of them hugely, such as myself and the other person you have mentioned in your message above, who was so kind, so caring and so, so concerned for you.

What also worries me is I think some people may have seen your words as being somewhat manipulative, and I'm sure you'd not meant them to be that way, really...especially the part where you talk about me abusing a disabled man who was on hunger strike for disabled people. You may want to put a note about that on your page? I'd be so unhappy if people thought you were a lying, abusive, deceptive, manipulative bastard, you see, George.

No, no, no, no, no..............no....I'd not want that at all.

I have many other worries, but I think I need to put those into another letter, as this is already a little like War & Peace II.

Again, I am so glad you are now able to munch away on Lamb Curry so soon after all your hardship, for I'd have hated you to have had to endure a week or more of gentle light food introduced in small, but increasing-in-size portions, as most people have to endure when ending a hunger strike...Lamb Curry saved the day, by the sound of it..

Always in helpfulness, George
Lizzie

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 10:14 AM

This was his letter. It had got to the point where only the Dingbats would still believe him....and this is how he got out of it. About the only folks who write on his page now are Christian folks...and it's being rumoured that a very of the most supportive pages belong to George himself. This may, or may not be true, for we know from our little crazy one in Mudcat that some folks make FB pages in the names of others and chatter away on those pages all by themself.   I'd not put anything past this man...He is, imo, seriously off the wall...but he is also doing a helluva lot of damage by riling up some men who are not always the nicest of characters...We all know there are vicious, nasty women around, but that is a mindset, not an entire gender..

I was INSTANTLY branded a feminist, and no doubt a man-hating one too, my him because he cannot bear ANY woman to even mildly suggest that he may be doing something unwise.....or, behaving like a total pillock, but at the time, I still believed he was genuine, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt...


George Rolph
Sunday
Hey everyone!

Thank you for your support and lovely messages.

My first and second meals were 2 boiled eggs and some toast. The eggs ensured I would not suffer with a nasty bout of diarrhoea and they worked. Such small meals also meant less chance of stomach cramps and I am glad to say I avoided them also. I also bought and took some multivitamins.

Yesterday evening I had a lamb Curry and it was good but it seems my taste buds have kinda stopped working properly. Everything has a bland taste at the moment. I assume that problem will go away later.

Apart from my dear friend Jess in the States I have pulled the plug on the world for a couple of days. I just decided I needed some time off. So I turned off all the phones and talked to no one but Jess and answered a few essential e-mails. I feel much better for having done so. I really needed the rest.

I cannot tell you what a strain this has all been on me. Physically I have been fine, but mentally I have been utterly exhausted by everything. I am pretty strong minded and have an iron will once I have made up my mind about something, but the pressure I have been under during this protest has been colossal.

I have learned a tremendous amount about people during this period. On the dark side I have learned how manipulative, vicious, cruel, self centred, politically ignorant, spiritually perverse, generally and personally negative and utterly false some people can be. Also, just how twisted and perverse the electronic and written media really is, with only two single exceptions. I also learned that if you refuse to jump through the political hoops of others their "concern" for your welfare is skin deep and they will turn on you in a moment. They have no honour and they are deceptive liars.

On the light side, I have been moved to tears again and again by peoples love, concern, tenderness, thoughtfulness, patience, willingness to help, their creative minds, their loyalty, their abiding willingness, despite their own horrible troubles and pain, to put all that aside and just lift me up with humour, positive support, offers of financial help, send me morale building cards they made themselves, faith in me and what I was doing and being constant presence at all hours of the day and night here on FB, ready to help in any way they could. Thank you, all of you, you are a credit to humanity and by your actions you have put that rats nest at the house of Commons and that den of vipers in the media to shame.

Health wise I am fine. I weighed myself when I rose this morning after the best nights sleep in ages to find I weigh 212.02 lbs. Up from the last day of my hunger strike when the figure was 207.04. Almost 5 pounds up!

To my loyal and wonderful supporters......

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

Now, this is only a brief respite. I have NOT given up. There are too many people out there going through hell to just abandon them and I have no intention of doing so. On July 20th at midnight I will begin another 40 day hunger strike.

I really need your help for this guys. I need a new and bigger support base of people willing to give up their time to work for this fight. People with enough guts and fire in their belly to be ready to make a difference. Will you help me raise a new army?

If the answer is yes, then when the next Cunning plan is ready, spit on your hands, roll up your sleeves and go on a recruiting drive. Expect problems because there WILL be some. Once again the wheat will have to be sorted from the chaff. That is inevitable but if we do a good the job the wheat we get will be all we need.

So, are you up for it? A nice two week break and then some hard work.

Please don't waste your time and mine trying to talk me out of this either. I appreciate your concern, but save that for the mother who has had her benefits removed by some faceless nerk in an office somewhere with all the compassion of a dead shark. She may be faced with trying to feed her children, coping with a mass of bills, fearing eviction, bailiffs and who knows what. So let's keep our concern focussed upon her and others like her and bringing this government and their lackeys to book.

Onwards and upwards friend. Phase two begins on July 20th. Let's go get 'em! And let's stay positive!

George Rolph.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 10:53 AM

Yawn.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 11:38 AM

Strange then, that you come in to this thread.

Why, anyone would think you were here purely to try to have a go at me, as ever....

Quadruple yawn.....

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Jul 13 - 12:54 PM

Liz, you greatly overestimate both your own importance and my interest.

Subject: RE: BS: George Rolph's Hunger Strike againstATOS
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 10 Jul 13 - 01:09 PM

Lizzie. Give it a rest. Nobody (apart from you) has the slightest interest in the non entity. Internet vitriol never changed anything. Look what has happened to all your other "worthy" campaigns..Native Indians etc etc. Absolutely nothing. It's vaguely interesting to read your rants every now and then, but what have you actually achieved? Name one government policy that you have changed?