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Subject: Lyr Req: 'Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea'
From: GUEST,kjwcpm
Date: 10 Jun 13 - 07:56 AM

Yesterday at the 34th Annual Sea Music Festival, Marc Bernier did a fine rendition of "Chanteyman Who's Never Gone To Sea". I'm wondering if anyone here has collected    a version of the tune, as I can't find it anywhere online and would love to add this one to my own collection.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea'
From: Jeri
Date: 10 Jun 13 - 08:18 AM

I believe member Micca wrote this.
Point of clarification: are you looking for the tune, the lyrics or the whole song?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea'
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 10 Jun 13 - 08:42 AM

I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea
Words Micca Patterson
Tune Mary Ellen Carter, Stan Rogers (Tweaked a bit)


I'M A SHANTY MAN THAT'S NEVER BEEN TO SEA
(Micca Patterson)

My beard is white and grizzled
I've a seaman's jumper on
My eyes are sharp and wrinkled
Like from winds around Cape Horn
Except I've never seen them
And I wont, sure as your born
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

I know each knot and sheet and rope
Can tell you all their names
I can sing for hours and hours and hours
About sailors shore side games
And how they answered loudly
To "lay aft and give your names"
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

Been to sea, been to sea
There's no place on the lumpy ocean
For the likes of me
I stick to Terra firma
That's the safest place for me
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

I know about Norwegian steam
And Swedish outboards too
Pea soup and Irish pennants
And the dreaded Lobscouse stew
But I'll do my sailing in the pub
If its all the same to you
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

I'll show you the right rhythm
For to holystone and scrub
And I'll battle gales and hurricanes
while anchored in the pub
or with my finger in my ear
in your local folk club
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

Been to sea, been to sea
There's no place on the lumpy ocean
For the likes of me
I stick to Terra firma
That's the safest place for me
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

I take a short haul shanty
and I'll sing it, as I do
at a speed and awkward tempo
that would make a wreck of you
tho' it makes a pleasing Harmony
It's not meant for working to
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

And when I sing a shanty
with a chorus at my back
A stamping with my old sea boot
to keep them on the track
I give each line a little whoop
To help take in the slack
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

Been to sea, been to sea
There's no place on the lumpy ocean
For the likes of me
I stick to Terra firma
That's the safest place for me
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

And I have my own Dorfflenger
And Stan Hugill on the shelf
Such rich and varied pickings
And a hoard of hidden wealth
And lots of old recordings
that I'm keeping to myself
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

There are some fine shanty singers
That I hope wont get the hump
At my mixing them with phonies
In this one amorphous lump
But the others, they are only good at
the Portuguese hand pump
They're shanty men that's never been to sea

Been to sea, been to sea
Theres no place on the lumpy ocean
For the likes of me
I stick to Terra firma
That's the safest place for me
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

So come into to the public bar
Drink beer instead of tea
And join in the loud choruses
With my sweatered mates and me
We'll be driving lee rails under
(whatever that might be)
And be a shantyman that's never been to sea

Been to sea, been to sea
Theres no place on the lumpy ocean
For the likes of me
I stick to Terra firma
That's the safest place for me
I'm a shanty man that's never been to sea

© Micca Patterson 9-1-2005


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea'
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 10 Jun 13 - 09:20 AM

I wasn't at Mystic, but I'll wager a guess it was Marc Bernier who sang this. He was quite taken with the song back in 2006 (I think) when Micca sang it at the Portland, Maine Sea Music Festival.

Linn


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea'
From: RTim
Date: 10 Jun 13 - 09:22 AM

Marc did great job with the song!!

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea'
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 10 Jun 13 - 09:47 PM

Yes, Marc did do a great job. The audience loved it. And he did credit Micca with writing it. It's good to see the lyrics here. I enjoyed hearing the song, but it's nice to read the words at my own pace.


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 11 Jun 13 - 05:23 AM

Should be Doerflinger if it's to be be added to the DT Lyrics!


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: GRex
Date: 11 Jun 13 - 05:33 AM

The tune used is to Stan Rogers "Mary Ellen Carter",tweaked a little.

            GRex


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Marc Bernier
Date: 11 Jun 13 - 06:59 AM

Yes I sang it. And gave Micca credit for authorship. GUEST,henryp; did you get Micca's permission before posting his material on the internet? That would be the proper courtesy.


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 11 Jun 13 - 11:53 PM

Micca - I guess we're covered by this;

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: A shantyman who's never gone to sea
From: Micca
Date: 07 Nov 07 - 08:20 AM

It will be after 20th of Novemebr but I will put the full lyrics on here once I get home


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 12 Jun 13 - 12:10 AM

And there's more;

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'm a Shanty Man That's Never Been to Sea
From: Micca
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 04:32 AM

There is a half verse missing!!!!
" So put on your Black Ball cheeser
and your canvas jacket blue
and we'll roll right down to Rio
by way of Timbucktoo
but only in our dreams, of course
we have better things to do
like being Shanty men whov'e never been to sea"

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'm a Shanty Man That's Never Been to
From: Charley Noble
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 08:19 AM

Micca-

Where does that missing half verse fit in? Is it before the last chorus?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I'm a Shanty Man That's Never Been to Sea
From: Micca
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 10:00 AM

Yes Charlie, right before the last chorus, after thr "beer instead of tea" and FWIW it was not a keyboard slip that left it out, it was actually written some time after the rest of the song was completed and I noticed we were 1/2 a verse short!!!


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 12 Jun 13 - 03:51 AM

The tune comes from Mary Ellen Carter, perhaps the best known of all Stan Rogers' songs.

Thirty years ago this month Stan died, helping passengers from a burning aircraft.

I'd just like to mark this moment and remember Stan. As long as we sing his songs, his music lives on.


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Marc Bernier
Date: 12 Jun 13 - 04:06 PM

Fair enough! I wasn't trying to challenge you. I'd just never seen his stuff posted so wasn't sure how he felt.


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Jeri
Date: 12 Jun 13 - 05:48 PM

Guest,henryp, Stan didn't regain consciousness, didn't help anyone off the plane. If you have proof, not "somebody told me", please start another thread and share it with the rest of the world. He has done enough otherwise that stories don't need to be made up about him.

Micca's song, other than the tune, has nothing at all to do with Stan. It's a wonderful song, Micca!


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 12 Jun 13 - 08:37 PM

"Micca's song, other than the tune, has nothing at all to do with Stan"

Stan wrote the tune - isn't that half of the song? Doesn't he deserve an acknowledgement?

"Stan didn't regain consciousness, didn't help anyone off the plane"

Everybody on the plane survived the landing. They were leaving the plane when a flashover occurred, killing the 23 passengers still on board.

Nathan Rogers, Stan's son, wrote;

"No, sir, the story is not beautiful (I agree) and those who survived were not in the plane when the critical flashover occurred. Moments before this, who knows for sure? Here are the facts: Stan was found about 6 feet from the front right door, face down, pointed toward the back of the airplane. It is not illogical to conclude that he may have been turning around to continue his search for survivors still trapped in the plane. It is one of the few small condolences I have."

I didn't mean to be controversial. I'm happy to amend what I wrote; Thirty years ago this month Stan died, in a way that would be explained if he was helping passengers from a burning aircraft.

And since no one inside the plane survived the flashover, there isn't any evidence to say that he wasn't trying to helping someone off the plane.

Stan was on a flight back to Toronto on the day I took off from Toronto to fly home. He is in my thoughts at this time. I regret his death very much but am grateful for what he achieved in his life.


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Bugsy
Date: 14 Jun 13 - 02:14 AM

Good Stuff Micca!

CHeers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Jun 13 - 04:58 AM

I hate to admit this, but this song may well be an indication that Micca might be what one could refer to as "brilliant."

It is a damn good song, Micca. It really is.

And on top of that, you're a damn nice person.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Jun 13 - 06:25 AM

Henryp, thanks.

Joe, this "brilliant" "nice" person you're talkin' about is Micca, right? I don't disagree, although I'm not planning on treating him with kid gloves. The medical ones would be sufficient. Possibly a Hazmat suit.

In any case, this song's definitely a keeper.


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: GUEST,Wee Jock
Date: 14 Jun 13 - 07:16 AM

As a member of Folk Duo Border Crossing, based in Rochester Kent U.K we are always looking for new songs to sing, and i would like to thank Guest KJWCPM, for bringing the song to my attention, and also to Guest Henry for the words, and last but certainly not least the very talented Micca Patterson for writing such a great song, As a singer of shanties, like the majority of shanty singers, have never been to sea, (I get sea sick when having a bath and was also sick on the Isle of Wight Ferry when we went there on holiday one year) and as my singing partner said when he saw the song, John the first two lines definitely are you.

Micca i hope that you have written some more songs, and if you have can we obtain the words and tunes from yourself?

Cheers to all

Wee Jock (John S. Matthews)


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 14 Jun 13 - 12:24 PM

It is an excellent song!

Bob Watson lamented the passing of the working shantymen in his song Shantyman - you can find the words on DT and a recording on youtube.

New sea songs continue to emerge. The best that I've heard recently was written by Jim Hancock of the English (Yorkshire/Lincolnshire) group The Roaring Forties.

It's got a grainy, authentic feel and a refrain; You wouldn't send a dog to sea on a night like this. I can't find it on the internet, but you'll recognise it when you hear it!


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jun 13 - 10:44 AM

Micca has another song...not a humerous one.... about a trip he was on to the the Antarctic many years ago(to service the whaling fleet)?? that everyone ought to hear.

You about, Micca? Are there recordings?


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 Jun 13 - 10:50 AM

It's a fine song, tongue in cheek but with a little bite, composed by Micca who has spent years at sea in the Royal Navy.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, from his armchair


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Micca
Date: 15 Jun 13 - 11:35 AM

Charlei!!! Merchant Navy!!! Not the Bloody Andrew!!! I Worked for a living!! I have written a few sea songs,if anyone wants words of songs feel free to PM me especially Shanty singing people,(I use the Sh spelling since I learned, years ago that the Ch spelling is used in Glasgow for a piece of Victorian porcelain that lived under the bed!!) Oh and Many thanks for your kind comments,


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Dave Earl
Date: 15 Jun 13 - 11:59 AM

Micca me ol' mate that's what we on the South Coast call a Guzunder (the bed when you've finished with it).

All right1 I'll get Mahatma Koht and go home shall I?

Dave


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Marc Bernier
Date: 15 Jun 13 - 01:31 PM

Micca! Thank you so much for giving me the words to that brilliant song, those many years ago. I don't do it often, because most audiences just don't understand, But when I do there is always a reaction. I think I enjoy it most when folks find it offensive.


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 15 Jun 13 - 01:58 PM

Hey, Micca! Tom puts in a vote for "Channels" if you want to post more lyrics. He really wishes he had a voice so he could sing it.

Linn


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: Micca
Date: 15 Jun 13 - 04:03 PM

I have posted it for Tom, in its own Lyric Add thread Linn


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: GUEST,ShantyMart
Date: 10 Aug 13 - 07:36 AM

Hi,
I,too, was at the music festival and recorded that performance. Find it and many other videos from this as well as last years' festivals at ShantyMart! Enjoy!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjFkq_rc_to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjFkq_rc_to


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Subject: RE: ADD: Chanteyman Who's Never Gone to Sea (Micca)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Aug 13 - 10:41 AM

This set me thinking of another song that in a way treats the same idea, from a completely different angle, the way you might get in Song Challenge. By the incomparable Graeme Miles, who died earlier this year,, My El Dorado:

I had my hopes as we all had hopes
For what I'd be and what I'd do
But as my youth soon bloomed and faded
So all my dreams they vanished too

I never found my Eldorado
I never walked down silver sands
I never saw those gold pagodas
Nor held a sunrise in my hand
But I just dreamed and dreamed a dream
I just dreamed and dreamed a dream

I was just a kid just a scruffy kid
But I held the world in my grubby hands
But then the world just turned to water
Ran through my fingers into the sand

The terraced streets were my playground canyons
The shipyard cranes were my redwood trees
The steel yard tips were my mountain ranges
And the brick yard ponds were my seven seas

The public bar was full of sailors
They laughed and sang and told their tales
But I just felt as black as coal
Put down my glass and walked away.<


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