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Subject: RE: Origins: Tina Singu From: Nigel Paterson Date: 05 Jun 19 - 05:26 AM I think I can remember Roy Guest singing this at a concert in Chelmsford, Essex, UK in the 60s. My very unreliable memory also informs me that Roy invited the audience to sing the song as a round, culminating in a huge, rallentando ending on "Watcha, watcha, watcha", liberally sprinkled with as much spontaneous harmonising as possible, directed by the inimitable Roy Guest. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Tina Singu From: GUEST,Stephanie Kennedy Date: 05 Jun 19 - 02:35 AM Tina Singu is a traditional folk song from the Countries of South Africa and Lesotho Africa |
Subject: RE: Origins: Tina Singu From: Susan of DT Date: 28 Dec 17 - 01:08 PM I think there was another thread on this a few years ago. It is hard to search when the spelling is iffy. I knew the song from Girl Scouts, so I had noticed the previous thread. It was longer and I think identified its African or Polynesian origins. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Tina Singu From: leeneia Date: 28 Dec 17 - 11:38 AM It's good music, Joe. Thanks for posting. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Tina Singu From: keberoxu Date: 26 Dec 17 - 02:01 PM Yes, the Vanguard label LP of the Weavers at my parents' home had them singing "Tina" and I recall the "you'll burn, you'll burn" translation summary. A little faster than "Grazing in the Grass," although that trumpet obbligato calls to mind Hugh Masekela. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Tina Singu From: GUEST,email to Joe from Donna Halper Date: 26 Dec 17 - 03:01 AM A long long time ago, back in 2013, your site had a thread about the song "Tina." Nobody seemed to have accurate lyrics for it. I always liked it when I first heard it as the B side to "The Lion Sleeps Tonight," but I too couldn't figure out what they were saying. So, imagine my surprise to find the lyrics in the November 1960 edition of Song Hits magazine (p. 17) under the title "Watcha." The magazine attributes the lyrics to Bob Hider, Norrie O'Neil, and Bev Galloway, but I wonder if they just adapted it into English. Anyway, the lyrics are listed with a 1960 Northern Music Corp. copyright: Tina singuo leluo votaio, Watcha, Watcha, Watcha. Tina singuo leluo votaio, Watcha, watcha, watcha ... etc (I can print it all out, but you get the idea). Anyway, thought you'd want another piece to be added to the mystery surrounding this song, which certainly does sound like something from Africa (one of the folks in the 2013 thread said Basutoland in South Africa)-- I noticed on the Hal Leonard music publishing site, they say it's a folk song from the Sotho (actually it's Sesotho, I believe) language, but they credit it to several other songwriters. Go figure. https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=8551698& Anyway, thought somebody might still be interested! Donna L. Halper, PhD Associate Professor of Communication and Media Studies Lesley University, Cambridge MA media historian, former broadcaster |
Subject: RE: Origins: Tina Singu From: Joe Offer Date: 14 Jun 13 - 07:10 PM That's a great find, Dave. I blickified your post to make it easier for people to find that recording. Anybody know of a Kingston Trio recording? What did they call the song? Looking through my collection of pocket songbooks from the Cooperative Recreation Service, I find that "Tina Singu" appears in several of their songbooks, most notably Chansons de Notre Chalet, which has become a Girl Scout standard songbook. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Origins: Tina Singu From: Dave Hanson Date: 14 Jun 13 - 09:18 AM Just had a look Joe, it's on youtube by The Tokens, from 1961. Dave H |
Subject: RE: Origins: Tina Singu From: Dave Hanson Date: 14 Jun 13 - 06:01 AM It was recorded in the 60s by The Tokens, it was the flip side of their hit version of ' The Lion Sleeps Tonight ' I liked it a lot. Dave H |
Subject: RE: Origins: Tina Singu From: Joe Offer Date: 14 Jun 13 - 05:11 AM refresh. Surely, there's more to say about this song. |
Subject: ADD: Tina From: Joe Offer Date: 13 Jun 13 - 03:00 AM Here are the notes and lyrics from the booklet for the Joe Hickerson/Folksmiths album titled We've Got Some Singing to Do. TINA comes from the tiny country of Basutoland in Southern Africa. It appears in the Cooperative Recreation Service pocket songbook, CHANSONS DE NOTRE CHALET. There are two editions of this book, the second of which gives the literal translation as, "We are the burning fire; we burn; we burn." TINA, KUM BA YAH, and DEEP BLUE SEA, became the favorite songs at most of the camps which the Folksmiths visited. PART ONE: TINA, singu, leluvutaeo,) Watcha, watcha, watcha.) (2) PART TWO: A. Watcha, watcha, watcha, watcha, watcha. (2) B. La, la la la la la la, etc. |
Subject: Origins: Tina (sung by Weavers) From: Joe Offer Date: 13 Jun 13 - 02:10 AM I've always liked the Weavers recording of this song. It's on their Classics CD, and on the Vanguard Wasn't That a Time collection. They sing over and over again:
Watcha Watcha Watcha I looked in my two Weavers songbooks and my two Pete Seeger songbooks, and didn't find it. Here's another post on the song:
Posted By: rabbitrunning 22-Aug-00 - 08:31 PM Thread Name: Girl Scout songs - from the fading ditto sheets... Subject: LYR ADD: TINA TINA But does anybody know the true lyrics and background information for this song? Allmusic.com attributes the song to Marion Roberts, and says it's on the Vanguard Weavers at Home album. Allmusic.com describes "Tina" as a "Wimoweh"-like song sung in the Xhosa language. -Joe- YouTube Video (click) I've found recordings by The Folksmiths (Joe Hickerson), the Chad Mitchell Trio, and of course by the Weavers. Pete Seeger recorded it as "Tina Singu." There's an inspired recording of this song under the title "Watsha" by the Guelph Youth Singers. I think the Kingston Trio may also have recorded the song, but I couldn't find that recording. |
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