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Canada Border Crossing ?

Deckman 17 Jun 13 - 04:57 PM
gnu 17 Jun 13 - 05:25 PM
Deckman 17 Jun 13 - 05:27 PM
Acme 17 Jun 13 - 05:32 PM
gnu 17 Jun 13 - 05:38 PM
GUEST,bankley 17 Jun 13 - 05:46 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 17 Jun 13 - 07:37 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 17 Jun 13 - 07:47 PM
GUEST 18 Jun 13 - 08:15 AM
Phil Cooper 18 Jun 13 - 08:29 AM
Mark Ross 18 Jun 13 - 09:25 AM
Deckman 18 Jun 13 - 09:57 AM
Stewart 20 Jun 13 - 12:44 PM
Deckman 20 Jun 13 - 01:25 PM
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Subject: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: Deckman
Date: 17 Jun 13 - 04:57 PM

Several musician friends of mine of soon crossing from Washington State to Canada at the Sumas Border Station. Does anyone out there have an recent information as to whether the Border Guards are confiscating older musical instruments? Any experiences or opinions will be appreciated. Thanks bob(deckman)nelson


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: gnu
Date: 17 Jun 13 - 05:25 PM

I am puzzled???


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: Deckman
Date: 17 Jun 13 - 05:27 PM

This has to do with the confiscation of older (vintage) instruments because they contain rare wood that is now unlawful to use. bob


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jun 13 - 05:32 PM

Old stuff is usually grandfathered in under those regulations. You should be able to find an answer online.

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/id_visa/kbyg/prohibited_restricted.xml

SRS


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: gnu
Date: 17 Jun 13 - 05:38 PM

Some idiot figured this was a good idea? Why is he still employed?


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: GUEST,bankley
Date: 17 Jun 13 - 05:46 PM

I flew into Montreal from Frankfurt 2 yrs. ago with a '67 Gibson Heritage. No problem


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jun 13 - 07:37 PM

The object is to preserve rare trees. Use of wood from these trees in manufacture and sale is prohibited unless "grandfathered."

The regulation is strongly enforced by the U. S., but I have not looked at Canada's prohibitions. Many of the same regulations have been enacted.

SRS link is for the U. S., not Canada. Moreover they prohibit Canadian seal furs and seal parts, objects made of walrus ivory, narwhal, some native-made objects, etc.

Also Cuban and other goods allowed into Canada but prohibited in the U. S. cannot be brought into the U. S.


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jun 13 - 07:47 PM

The agreement on rare woods is international- included in Convention on International trade of endangered species.

http://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/restricted-and-endangered-wood-species


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 08:15 AM

Call Canada Customs and ask.


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 08:29 AM

I had heard of US musicians coming back in to the US and having customs problems, but not going to Canada. Some officials didn't take the grandfather clause too seriously.


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: Mark Ross
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 09:25 AM

John Thomas, author of KALAMAZOO GALS, and a lawyer has been writing on this subject . Here's a link to his Fretboard Journal piece on the subject from 3 years ago.

John Thomas in The Fretboard Journal 2010

There was some talk a couple of months ago about instrument passports, but the US Fish & Wildlife Service hasn't made any decisions yet.

I think that the US is not going to enforce this too strictly, and I seem to remember that there was an announcement recently to this effect. It would probably behoove you to check with the proper authorities before crossing.

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: Deckman
Date: 18 Jun 13 - 09:57 AM

Thank you all for your postings. There are several folks here in the Seattle area following this thread. bob


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: Stewart
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 12:44 PM

any more advice?

I'll be going up to Princeton, B.C. trad music festival in Aug.
When I cross the border I just say I am visiting friends in Princeton (true) and don't mention music festival or performing (unless specifically asked). Never had a problem in last three years.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: Deckman
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 01:25 PM

Stew ... I would offer that you could use my name with the border guards as reference ... but that would GUARENTEE you'd have trouble! bob (deckman)nelson


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Subject: RE: Canada Border Crossing ?
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 01:31 PM

Be careful what you put on the internet - border guards have been known to google names ....


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