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Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?

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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: G-Force
Date: 03 Aug 13 - 01:46 PM

Well done that man! It seems to be back to normal now (Windows 7, Firefox).


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 13 - 07:35 PM

Laptop was running a little slow today. Mudcat hung while waiting for
www.2345.com

Only after that did it scroll to the bottom of the page.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Newport Boy
Date: 02 Aug 13 - 06:29 AM

I'm currently having no problem in Iceweasel v19 (Firefox clone).

Phil


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: John J
Date: 01 Aug 13 - 07:03 PM

Jumps to the bottom of the page for me running Firefox under windoze XP and also Linux (Ubuntu).

JJ


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 01 Aug 13 - 05:36 PM

The bottom is where the big advert is.

Is this significant?

K/van


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Stewart
Date: 31 Jul 13 - 07:44 PM

this happens to me (scrolls to the bottom) also
both on Firefox 22 and Chrome
but not on Internet Explorer
I am using Windows 7

on Chrome the black bar at the top
"support mudcat by shopping at Amazon" appears
but that does not appear on Firefox or Internet Explorer
is that somehow involved in this strange behavior??

It makes going through the posts somewhat tedious, annoying

S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 31 Jul 13 - 07:10 PM

Worth adding that I get this when I go to the main page no matter what.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 31 Jul 13 - 06:47 PM

I'm getting that as well. I thought I was just crazy.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Mr Red
Date: 30 Jul 13 - 12:38 PM

correction, it opens at the top but scrolls immediately to the bottom.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Mr Red
Date: 30 Jul 13 - 12:34 PM

FF 22.0 here

Not noticed much, but Lyrics & Knowledge seems to open at the bottom instead of the top.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 30 Jul 13 - 05:02 AM

It works fine with Internet Explorer.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jul 13 - 05:01 AM

It's not just Firefox. Does it with Google Chrome too.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Jul 13 - 04:14 AM

It now jumps to the bottom with me too. Is it a Firefox thing or has the code been altered here?

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Jul 13 - 09:46 PM

I, too, am falling to the bottom using Firefox 22.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Joe_F
Date: 29 Jul 13 - 09:40 PM

I, too, spoke too soon. The pest came back again.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: JHW
Date: 29 Jul 13 - 04:42 PM

Found it. Used to be a Button said Show Cookies but now there's a less obvious text link
Didn't make any difference


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: JHW
Date: 29 Jul 13 - 04:26 PM

Sorry to bother you all but I can't find where in Firefox I go to take out cookies. Surely I used to go into Tools then Options but I can't find it now?
When this scroll leap thing happens there are heaven knows what addresses whizzing by at the bottom of the screen and as a long shot I was going to weed out unknown cookies.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Newport Boy
Date: 28 Jul 13 - 05:13 PM

I had the original problem, but Mudcat acts as it should at the moment. Using Iceweasel (Firefox clone) on Linux.

Phil


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jul 13 - 03:20 PM

I use Google Chrome. It goes to the bottom of the page. Has done since last week. Don't know why.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Jul 13 - 11:46 AM

Two days ago, mine too started jumping to the bottom. Not a big problem but curiouser and curiouser.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 28 Jul 13 - 10:35 AM

I din't have the problem when it was first raised but I have now - using firefox. However, I have just run a slew of MS updates - could this have something to do with it?

R


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 28 Jul 13 - 10:16 AM

Me, er, several-th - on Chrome both on Windows 8 and on iPad. Most inconvenient.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Kampervan
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 05:05 PM

Same for me. using GoogleChrome in Vista, it jumps to the bottom.

Very annoying.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Tootler
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 04:32 PM

Also for me Firefox v22 in Linux Mint and the default browser in my Samsung Galaxy Android tablet.

This suggests to me that the problem is not specific to Firefox.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Monique
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 03:24 AM

Same as Gurney here.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Tootler
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 03:18 AM

Same here.

Safari, iPad which is where I mostly read muscat these days.

I also have Firefox in Linux & a Samsung tablet where I am using the default browser. I will have to check those later when I get home


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Gurney
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 05:58 PM

Jumping back to bottom. Firefox, XP.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: JHW
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 03:39 PM

And has done the same after making that last post


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: JHW
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 03:38 PM

After returning to the thread list using Home it goes initially to the top with the headlines and Mudcat title but without me doing anything it then leap scrolls to the bottom of the page below the BS
(using Firefox 22)


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: G-Force
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 07:06 AM

GUEST at 5.27 a.m. was me. Didn't notice my login had loggedout.

But it's still doing it. Isn't life funny?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Tootler
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 06:56 AM

Quote GUEST 26 Jul 13 - 05:27 AM:
"Aaaaarrrggghhh!!!! Spoke too soon. Now it's jumping to the bottom of the list."

All of a sudden, I am getting the same thing happening with Safari in iPad


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 06:40 AM

It's not doing it with Internet Explorer.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 05:27 AM

Aaaaarrrggghhh!!!! Spoke too soon. Now it's jumping to the bottom of the list.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Joe_F
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 05:21 PM

I am happy to say that upgrading my XULRunner solved my problem. Probably not anybody else's. %^)


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: G-Force
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 05:49 AM

Hooray, suddenly it seems to be working OK again.

I usually reckon that if you wait long enough, most problems just go away, but I guess somebody somewhere has managed to fix something.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Newport Boy
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 06:53 AM

Well - it looks like the changes to the page coding to include the 2345, etc calls are also the cause of the aberrant behaviour.

This version of FF (19) on which I have blocked the 2345 addresses works correctly. FF22 on XP and all my other browsers, on which I've not blocked the addresses behave wrongly.

That's as I find it, anyway.

Phil


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 11:08 AM

Sounds like it's a double-bug, the Fox stalking the Cat.
Looking up the FFX 21 changes, I see they've changed the DOM definition of window.location to add a new .origin property. If MC uses this as a default it could have the effect described.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Newport Boy
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 08:42 AM

I can't see a connection, but I blocked 2345, etc earlier and now the back button works as it should do.

Phil


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 10 Jul 13 - 02:56 PM

I'm on V 21 and getting the same irritating glitch.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: r.padgett
Date: 10 Jul 13 - 02:53 PM

This is atest posting I have just installed firefox and lost a posting this am

Ray


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Bizibod
Date: 10 Jul 13 - 04:11 AM

Bah! Spoke too soon!
Jumping like a flea again this morning...


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Bizibod
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 06:26 PM

'Twas jumping up to the top these last 10 days or so- up until this evening when everything is back to normal - hurrah !


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 09:22 AM

Firefox now seems to have reverted to the earlier version [ certainly on my PC ] and the problem no longer occurs.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Joe_F
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 03:09 PM

FWIW, I have read & written Mudcat for many years in a deviant browser called Conkeror, which piggybacks on Firefox 16.0, running under Windows XP 2002. Its main feature is that it allows you to avoid using the mouse by causing all the links on the screen to be numbered, so that you can "click" on them by typing the numbers. It behaved to my satisfaction until a few days ago. Since then, when I access the list of postings, the page is not "focused", so I have to hit ESC twice before it will respond to the keyboard. (It does still respond to the mouse, FWIW.) No other sites, and no other pages within the Mudcat, misbehave in that way.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Newport Boy
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 09:23 AM

Yet more data. Installed Opera & Chrome in virtual XP.

Opera - back button goes direct to top of front page
mudcat.org/#BS goes to top, then down to BS, then after 1 sec, back to top

Chrome - Back button goes direct to top
mudcat.org/#BS goes correctly to BS
F5 from BS goes to top of page.

There's something non-standard in the coding to get this much variation in behaviour.

Phil


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Newport Boy
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 06:07 AM

More data - I decided to see what happened using my virtual XP install.

Firefox 20, no add-ons - behaved as my post 6 July
Firefox then auto-upgraded to v22
Firefox 22, no add-ons - behaved as my post 6 July

Realised that IE was probably there somewhere - turned out to be IE8. I've never intentionally used this, although I suspect XP may have used it for upgrades, etc.

IE8 - first try back button:
1. direct to top of front page. Dialog box wanting to install Simplified Chinese to display correctly!
2. Cancel dialog box
3. Jump to correct location after about 2 secs.

Disabled character set dialog

IE8 - direct to top front page (took 3 secs to load) then jump to correct location.

The Mudcat front page coding is screwed.

Phil


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 07:17 PM

The weird behavior in Firefox doesn't happen on this machine, so it possibly has to do with something I have blocked. I just tried un-blocking a couple things and nothing changed, so I don't know what might be causing it.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 06:37 PM

What baffles me, John, is why you're still here.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 06:17 PM

Mudcat has sold it's soul to Satan. What else can you expect? It is after all, your money, that has helped change Mudcat from the great site it was, to the shit site it is!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat acting differently in Firefox?
From: Newport Boy
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 03:52 PM

No - it's not any change in Firefox. I'm using Iceweasel (Debian rebranded Firefox) version 19, installed on 19 May. This behaviour only started a month later and it also happens using Konqueror.

It is Mudcat's front page that has changed, although it affects only some browsers. I've noted the following:

1. Back button to Mudcat - returns to where I left, then jumps to top of page.

2. F5 (after the last step) - returns to down page, then jumps to top.

3. Address mudcat.org/#BS - opens at BS, then jumps to top of page.

I can find no other page on the web that does this (I haven't checked them all).

It's a significant annoyance, and I no longer look at BS at all because of it.

Phil


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