BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings

Subject: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 03:18 PM

I haven't had a proper nightmare in years but in a dream last night I was irked at something and I said, Sometimes I feel like just pushing the Release button and having done with it.

I can't say I have ever equated Death with a Release Button (Eject, maybe!)but my friends and I both understood what I meant.

Do you remember using metaphor in your dreams?

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 04:46 PM

I haven't had a nightmare in years, either. I attribute that to living a relatively stress-free life now that I'm retired. I have had a few dreams that were a bit unpleasant, however. They usually involve being back at my old job. Not nightmares, exactly, but the atmosphere was charged with tension, just like it was in real life.

I dreamed that I went back to my old workplace for a visit (something I would never do in real life). My old boss walked up to me and handed me a stack of papers and asked me to do something with them. I said, "Does this mean you want to rehire me?" She looked surprised, as if she had forgotten, and then suddenly remembered, that I didn't work there any more. She said, "No," and walked away. Meanwhile I still had the papers in my hand. After she was gone, I looked through them and figured out that they were a draft of a report she was working on for her own boss. It was probably her only copy. I thought, "I bet she'll be in a lot of trouble if she loses these"—and I threw them in the trash.

Sweet revenge!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 03:17 AM

Sweet! Nice that it let you throw the papers away- mine would more often be found in my briefcase or stuck to my fingers or something like that. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 05:42 AM

I have quite a few nightmares. One recurring dream involves a strangely familiar house, with several corridors, delapidated rooms and dingy decor. I feel increasingly ill at ease as I wander around (always alone) and look with distaste at the state of the place. Just after waking, I realise this house is actually me, and the various rooms are parts of the inside of my body, the corridors are the circulatory system, the hallway my mouth etc. When I had a minor eye problem a few years back, one of the windows of this house had a dirty blind drawn down. And one room with a crack right across the wall I later realised was the hiatus hernia diagnosed fairly recently. Isn't it clever of my body to try and tell me the state of my health through this metaphor?

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Charmion
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 09:21 AM

Hey, Eliza -- It's clever of your subconscious mind to maintain an inventory of bodily issues and periodically bring them to your attention in such a graphic way, but not very gallant to be so inelegant about it!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 01:22 PM

When I am hard at work learning a new language, I always feel like I'm "getting it" when I have my first dream in that language.

I used to be impressed that I could understand, say, Hungarian, so much better in my dreams...

...then I realized all my dream interlocutors were using *my* vocabulary!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 01:51 PM

Mrrzy, your dream reminds me: When I drive/drove a car, I often "hear" voices singing in my right ear. Sometimes it is a single voice, sometimes it is a group. I can make them go back to the beginning or repeat a certain verse or phrase. It can be a full orchestral sound or without accompaniment.

So one day I told my sister about the phenomenon and I noticed her expression get more and more grave, as she realized that I was 'hearing voices.'

Until I finished the account with: "But I have noticed that when I don't know the words, they don't either!"

(The brain is a wondrous thing!)

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: meself
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 04:12 PM

I recall as a young guy having one of those dreams in which you're wandering around searching for somebody you were supposed to meet, or not to part from in the first place, and at some point, encountering a morose and weary-looking old man who asked what I was doing there - I replied that I was looking for a friend - he said gloomily, "You won't find any friends around here." I laughed, but his expression and tone were unchanged as he repeated, "You won't find any friends around here." And suddenly there was nothing funny about it. I continued, uneasily, on my way.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 05:00 PM

lol, meself. That was funny in a macabre kind of way.

As I said, I don't have proper nightmares but my most common disturbing dream is when I suddenly recall that I had promised to take care of a baby and not only did I not even change a diaper or feed him/her I have forgotten where the kid is.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 06:36 PM

I have a lot of 'stressful' dreams with several different patterns and subjects... they simply reflect life's normal stresses of financial, medical, political...etc. worries. Sometimes my dreams reflect semi-'solving' of stressful situations. Sometimes I think mischievous neurons just fire randomly to tease me.
Why else would I dream about having an earnest conversation with a female Centaur who was 'concerned' about 'her' ability to fit into a society where she was the only example? We discussed all sorts of vague & strange ideas about how she could cope, and whether she should..or could.. opt out of society. I don't remember any clear conclusion..... and I do NOT assume it was all a metaphor for my own problems with society... ;>)

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 04:11 AM

A female centaur, Bill? Have you watched that advert for yoghurt by any chance (two lady centaurs in Greece eating a pot of yoghurt and saying "It's a myth"? I'm now wondering if my daft dreams about my body being a house stem from that old song "This Old House..." I reckon all our dreams are manufactured from things we've seen and heard but maybe forgotten. The dreams I like best are those where I wake up laughing my head off, but sadly I never remember what was so funny. My husband thinks I'm bonkers!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Bizibod
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 06:36 AM

Ebbie ! Sudden recall of an entrusted baby - me too! That one makes me sweat and gives me a pain in the stomach!
My other horror is suddenly having to take over driving a careering vehicle at high speed- usually from the passenger seat , sometimes from the back seat which is worse- from a driver who has collapsed . I don't actually drive - never managed to conquer my terror despite 3 different driving instructors - so this one makes me feel physically nauseous and I wake up a wild and gibbering wreck !
Eliza ! Laughing dreams are a real gift - I too have never remembered them , but the feelings of euphoria and joy are exquisite and start off the day on a real high.
I also have a hovering dream , where if I can push my two hands down hard enough I feel two stalks of jelly off which I can push into the air about a foot off the ground.Funnily enough my younger son , 26, I discovered last week , has exactly the same dream...
And the other one is ,back at junior school , running round and around in a circle , leaning in towards the surface of the playground getting lower and lower until my cheek is almost grazing the surface and everyone stands around in awe .....!
Absolutely no idea what that's all about! Can't do it,I've tried...

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 07:57 AM

Odd. I encountered that same Centaur awhile back, Bill, while on a walk in the woods here, and she compained about meeting YOU in her dreams... ;-)

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Being more serious, I have disturbing dreams where I'm driving, and I can't control the car. Either the brakes don't work or the steering doesn't work. I've determined that those dreams refer to my general progress through life...my life path...slipping out of my control in one way or another.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 03:07 PM

Oh, yeah, the "brakes don't work"- I can slow the vehicle but most of the time I can't get it to a complete stop. What is the significance of that?

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 03:13 PM

"two lady centaurs in Greece"..*grin*...no, can't say I have. Maybe they got the idea from mining my dreams before I had them!

".., and she compained about meeting YOU in her dreams.."

Nawww.. no lady ever complained about meeting ME in the woods.. ;.)

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 08:19 PM

She wasn't no lady, eh? ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 06:13 AM

In a book about the meaning of dreams I once borrowed from the Library, an Entrusted Baby (or small vulnerable animal) is actually Yourself. It means you haven't been looking after yourself sufficiently and are neglecting your own care. I've had that dream too. Has anyone dreamt, as I do often, that you've somehow forgotten to put any clothes on, and there you are in the middle of town completely naked, trying to work out how this happened? I've even found myself sitting on a toilet with no door, in front of Marks and Spencers' doorway, idly pondering on why I'm there.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Mo the caller
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 08:40 AM

Looking for a loo and none of them have doors.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 08:57 AM

You mean they're walled off and inaccessable? Or they just lack doors that can be closed after you go in?

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 09:03 AM

Ebbie - "I can slow the vehicle but most of the time I can't get it to a complete stop. What is the significance of that?"

The way I would interpret it is that you have a situation in your life where you're moving in a direction you don't want to move in...you want to stop going there...but you are only able to slow the process down some, not bring it to a halt.

We could all say that about aging, for example. Or about numerous other things.

For me, driving the car in a dream usually seems to symbolize my embodied life here and my general progress through this life. Can't steer? The meaning is obvious. Can't stop? Again, pretty obvious. Can't start the engine? Again, pretty obvious. Which car it is in the dream varies. Sometimes it's a specific car that I owned at one time or another. Sometimes it's my present car. Sometimes it's a different car altogether.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 11:48 AM

Looking for a (toilet-bathroom-loo-potty-'comfort station') seems to be quite common. I've had dozens of those for many years....they are usually in an old house where they are not only without doors, but in disrepair or in use. I 'think' those dreams usually occur right before waking when the body is signaling "time to get up & go!"

I have many car dreams..(broken down, lost, driving aimlessly trying to get somewhere, no parking space...etc).

I also have many building dreams...hotels, schools, houses (often with secret rooms), warehouses & stores (some of which I have worked in, some not). These are often part of 'folk festival' or 'craft show' dreams with all the stresses of dealing with herds of people in complex situations.

Oh...yes... almost forgot 'flying dreams'...not common any more, but I used do everything from bobbing in the air like in a swimming pool to zooming around. I liked those!

The one I've not heard anyone else mention is 'traveling by public transportation'...bus, train, plane, etc... with complex locating, boarding, route-changing situations.

ALL of those patterns and a few more I can close my eyes and 'flip thru' like a large deck of cards with a single picture on each. Usually it is the same batch of , but occasionally I 'reach deeper' and find a seldom used stack of cards of old dreams seldom looked at.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 11:56 AM

I've had a few of those "looking for the loo" dreams...but not many. Had a lot of the "building" dreams...and I am reminded of "in my Father's house there are many mansions". Many "concert" or "gig" dreams. Some erotic dreams (those are fun!). I think that most of them are symbolic of something I'm working through in my life, but some of them may be quite prosaic and mundane, as Bill suggested.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 12:02 PM

One dream that I used to have quite often is when I suddenly discover that there is a whole other, and unknown, wing or dimension to a house where I have lived for years. I haven't had the dream in years but I remember the delight and elation.

(And of course, I now see the symbolism!)

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 12:57 PM

Yes, that would have been a really good dream. Neat!

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 02:21 PM

My old Headmaster in my first teaching post told me he dreamt every single night that he was flying over Edinburgh. He could clearly see the town from above, and the people below looking up at him in amazement. What made me smile was when he said his arms ached every morning when he woke up. Presumably he'd been flapping them all night during his long flights.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 03:47 PM

I have had very few erotic dreams. Those few WERE fun, but most dreams that were heading toward erotic kinda fizzled... Analyze away! (Maybe because I've been married most of my adult life, I didn't need them.)

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 04:34 PM

I never had to 'flap' in my flying dreams... At first I just pulled up my knees and bobbed & floated, as high maybe as trees in the yard... later, after I 'got better', I just soared in long, looping dives...like Superman.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 04:37 PM

In my flying dreams I have often told onlookers that it's "easy. Just step up like this- and away you go" and I demonstrate the move. lol

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 04:53 PM

I find it very interesting that many of us here, from all over the world, have very similar types of dream. I wonder if other cultures (eg Native Australians, African tribespeople etc) have dreams like us?
Obviously the context wouldn't be the same ( eg an Aborigine wouldn't dream of being on a toilet in full view of Marks and Spencers shop doorway) but Shame dreams, Flying dreams, Laughing dreams and so on are probably universal. My cats dream; they 'chatter' which is a hunting sound, and chomp and chew, whimper and 'run' with twitching. Our subconscious has a life of its own! My Irish mum used to recount her very weird dreams and interpret them. My prosaic dad used to say "For goodness sake woman, why can't you just dream the Grand National winner?"

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 05:15 PM

I never had to flap in the flying dreams either. Just sort of effortlessly moved up and away. No one down below ever seemed to notice me doing so. The thing that would always screw things up would be my conscious mind coming in and saying, "Hey, how is this happening? This shouldn't be possible." ...at which point I would begin sinking down to the ground. Damn that conscious mind that thinks is has all the answers! It screws things up every time.

Bill - One thing that really pisses me off is I have had no erotic dreams (yet) about Winona Ryder! I should sue someone over this, I think. After all, I've had them about Cher, Tina Turner, Buffy Sainte-Marie, and Joan Baez....so why the hell not about Winona???

It's not fair!

(the one with Joan Baez was funny...kind of hilarious in some respects...and Bob Dylan made a brief cameo appearance toward the later part of it...which wasn't the erotic section, by the way)

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 05:49 PM

Contrary to Little Hawk's experience(s), I am often watched or at least noticed when I'm flying. I remember one time when I was 'flying' above a sidewalk (pavement), just below the tops of trees when I saw a woman running full speed to intercept me.

So I 'tipped' down and met her. She was amazed at my ability, and I told her that anyone could do it.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 06:47 PM

Very cool! I'll try to do the same the next time I have one of those dreams...if I remember to.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Jul 13 - 02:16 AM

I once read something to the effect that if you wish to have lucid dreams, remind yourself in a dream sometime to look at your hands.

And one night I did. Whether because of it or not, I frequently have lucid dreams.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Joe_F
Date: 21 Jul 13 - 09:41 PM

On a corner in Manhattan there was a frame of I-beams with an elevator inside and an enclosure on top, bridging the street & the avenue. It was maintained by a bear & a cub, and you could arrange on the Web for an assignation. You printed out a ticket & went there displaying it, and the bear & cub would grab you & hustle you into the elevator.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Jul 13 - 10:12 PM

Yes?

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: frogprince
Date: 21 Jul 13 - 10:28 PM

I don't believe I've had a flying dream since I was very young. I would just take off like an effortless broad jump and go into slow, low flight. I just remember doing it indoors, down long hallways.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 13 - 09:51 AM

For awhile I had these great dreams where I would go on long runs through the city of Toronto to keep myself in shape. I had several routes worked out through parks, green areas, and residential sections. The city looked considerably better in those dreams than it does in real life. There were a lot of big hills to run up and down, and I was surprised to find how effortlessly I was doing so, sometimes almost running on air for a few strides. I had these dreams repeatedly for several weeks or months.

No idea what that was about. The neat thing was how completely real it seemed...so much so that I always thought I was awake and that it was really happening in 3D life.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Jul 13 - 11:37 AM

I had one unique whacked-out sequence in which I was just sitting around home, then realized my surroundings weren't quite realistic, realized I was dreaming, and I woke up. Then I realized my surroundings weren't quite realistic, and I woke up...Then...
I must have repeated the routine at least half a dozen times. I remember getting a little worried about whether I was ever going to get back to reality.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Jul 13 - 12:18 PM

What a dream, Dean. A Zen master might ask, What is reality? smile

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 13 - 12:32 PM

Yes, that is the question. Are we dreaming right now? And if so, what will we wake up to?

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Claire M
Date: 22 Jul 13 - 02:23 PM

Hiya,

I always dream if/when I have a problem, it's very rare when there isn't music in them. I love cheese which we seem to get a lot of here, so I always have weird dreams. Various favourites have turned up to give advice. I've sleep apnoea so when I have a bad dream I know there's something not right w/ my CPAP.

I was (still am) a massive fan of Gary Moore; I saw him live twice. I quite fancied him too (!) I loved his blues so much I sometimes thought in blues lyrics. One night I couldn't sleep cos my chest hurt so much I was struggling to breathe, which I thought was normal due to my apnoea. Next morning I found out GM had died that night.

I dreamed of a man in a black hat for ages, in a fantasy garden, tapping his staff on the ground. I just thought it was due to me reading so much high fantasy. A few months later I discovered the joy of Discworld, & now spend ½ my time on the Disc.

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Jul 13 - 03:51 PM

Also, my kids are always little in my dreams...

Subject: RE: BS: Dreams, Phrases and Sayings
From: Mo the caller
Date: 24 Jul 13 - 02:42 PM

In my dream (60 yrs ago) someone said "I didn't know you could ...." (whatever it was - ballet dance maybe). I replied " It's only a dream"